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Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

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You know, I really don't care about the surface "motivation" of this guy. Anybody who will storm into a crowded venue and shot any and everything that moves is not acting in a normal state of mind. There is obviously some level of "crazy" here. Something isn't right in the guy's head. So if he's a "white muslim" hellbent on Jihad, if he's a "right wing radical" hellbent on defending Romney against the "Bain/Bane" attacks, if he's a "left wing radical" hellbent on destroying consumerism...who the hell cares?

At the end of the day, 12 people are dead and 50 injured for no good reason. Instead of fixating on the nutjob, let's fixate on the victims. They're the only ones deserving of our thoughts right now.
 
Dittohead not! said:
OK, so does that mean religion is somehow to blame?
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No, but it does mean that Gohmert's mindless ranting about the moral degeneration of society is almost certainly wrong.
 
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Captain America said:
I have a fifty-cent solution for this killer. A bullet between the eyes. This maggot, P.O.S. deserves to die very slow and painfully.

Can you believe this scumbag here is politicizing this tradegy? ----> Tea Party Congressman Links Colorado Shooting To Attacks On Christianity | ThinkProgress
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Nope, but I know we have one scumbag here trying to use this tragedy for his political agenda: http://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/131174-colorados-loose-gun-laws-didnt-save-any-lives-today.html
 
And here comes the "violent media causes violence" brigade. Tipper Gore and the American Family Association are going to be so proud.

BREAKING: NYPD Cmsr Kelly says CO suspect Holmes had "hair painted red, he said he was The Joker." Armed w/shotgun, AK47, 9mm, knife.
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Einzige said:
And here comes the "violent media causes violence" brigade. Tipper Gore and the American Family Association are going to be so proud.
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Actually, my first thought when I read this story was that it was some crazy Joker wannabe who just wanted to create as much chaos as possible. In other words, the reason for the crime was that there was no reason for it.
 
Einzige said:
.... or in the case of CNN, the Occupy movement.

EDIT: And the right-wing media have already tried the Occupy angle.
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And you do not see the difference between CNN putting a kook on ......

While at ABC, their main guy WAS THE KOOK ?
 
Tucker Case said:
Actually, my first thought when I read this story was that it was some crazy Joker wannabe who just wanted to create as much chaos as possible. In other words, the reason for the crime was that there was no reason for it.
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The initial angle the would-be censors in the media were running with is that "James Holmes was wearing a gas mask; ergo James Holmes thought he was Bane". Then they realized that he was using gas in his attacks, and that it was eminently logical, within the paradigm Holmes was working with, to wear a gas mask. So they've moved on to the second-best thing, from their perspective.


Eighty Deuce said:
And you do not see the difference between CNN putting a kook on ......

While at ABC, their main guy WAS THE KOOK ?
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As I said before, the hostess was giving the fellow free pass to air his views, since CNN commentators never challenge their guests on anything. She nodded and agreed with him.

Once more, with feeling: you are not a victim.
 
Einzige said:
The initial angle the would-be censors in the media were running with is that "James Holmes was wearing a gas mask; ergo James Holmes thought he was Bane". Then they realized that he was using gas in his attacks, and that it was eminently logical, within the paradigm Holmes was working with, to wear a gas mask. So they've moved on to the second-best thing, from their perspective.
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It really could be his reasoning for his choice to attack the Batman premier. He's clearly nuts, and it makes a sort of insane sense.
 
muciti said:
Some people have to label him so they can blame a group. Individual responsibility is a thing of the past. Whatever party he voted, religion he followed, his race, sexual orientation, ect are all guilty too. They are all to blame.
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Alright, we have plenty of you people blaming political affliation. CHECK. Religion got in there. Good job. CHECK. Race quite a few times. CHECK. Oh. We stiill need someone to blame his sexual orientation. C'mon people you're slacking here.
 
Tucker Case said:
It really could be his reasoning for his choice to attack the Batman premier. He's clearly nuts, and it makes a sort of insane sense.
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Yeah, unfortunately when we do find out what his motivation was, its going to something from another galaxy far far away. He was the real Bane, or the Joker is better than Bane or like the right to life groups that kill innocents to stop the killing of innocent babies.... Yeah, that will show these mothers who have abortions, which is wrong to kill so I am gonna blow up a building killing all kinds of innocent people, just so I can get the doctor who is performing them.... Its going to be something drudged up from his personal hell in his mind.
 
Tucker Case said:
He didn't finish his killing spree by sucking on his gun, so I don't think sexual orientation was a factor.
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You know.. that theater was full of kids... 10-12-15....

One 17 year old tried to get to the third row so he could get out an emergency exist.. He slipped in blood and fell on a woman. He said he grabbed her arm and said we gotta get out of here, come on.. but she was dead.

So you have Holmes who is completely disconnected from other humans... and a 17 year old trying to help a stranger.

I can't quite get my head around this.
 
00timh said:
Yeah, unfortunately when we do find out what his motivation was, its going to something from another galaxy far far away. He was the real Bane, or the Joker is better than Bane or like the right to life groups that kill innocents to stop the killing of innocent babies.... Yeah, that will show these mothers who have abortions, which is wrong to kill so I am gonna blow up a building killing all kinds of innocent people, just so I can get the doctor who is performing them.... Its going to be something drudged up from his personal hell in his mind.
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Even if he were dressed as the Joker - and I will remind everyone that the Columbine killers were initially reported to have been "dressed like Marilyn Manson", even after it came out that they were not Marilyn Manson fans - does it not make sense that he would be, given that he was attending the premiere of a Batman film?
 
Will this tragedy cause anyone to rethink seeing this movie?

I'm heading out to see it within the hour, just curious if anyone has any predictions on how ticket sales might be effected?
 
Captain America said:
**** that. They got this guy dead-to-rights. String his ass up.
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I have to agree with Thunder on this. If we throw out the rule of law this one instance, it opens the door. Law can't be ruled by emotion. I know, I got jokes in most cases, but I just can't joke about **** like this. The trial itself can bring us closer to understanding this psychological phenomena, and it's too valuable to throw it away on emotional whim.
 
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