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Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

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And that offends you because you have totally and completely immersed yourself in gun culture where by your own admissions guns are some sort of pure good like a church sacrament.

Its beyond perverted.

I wonder what the sainted Founders would have done had some nut tried to kill them at Constitution Hall and succeeded in taking a dozen of them out?

So don't whine to me about the sainted Founders being on your side.

There is no Constitutional right to have any weapon you want to have. You know that and I know that. So do not pretend there is.

it doesn't take much to get the gun haters to show their true colors

You once boldly proclaimed you were pro second amendment even despite your idiotic Martyrs of the second amendment crap that got flushed to where it belonged

The british tried to kill the founders. what was their solution BE WELL ARMED

Look if you are afraid to own a gun and want to outsource your personal safety to some guy who is paid with your tax dollars to sort of protect you that is fine

but stop whining about those of us who see our own safety and that of our family's a personal responsibility
 
Defining the other as "extreme" is a time-honored method of extremists.

So by that tremendous use of logic there are no extremists that dare not be called out?
 
it doesn't take much to get the gun haters to show their true colors

You once boldly proclaimed you were pro second amendment even despite your idiotic Martyrs of the second amendment crap that got flushed to where it belonged

The british tried to kill the founders. what was their solution BE WELL ARMED

Look if you are afraid to own a gun and want to outsource your personal safety to some guy who is paid with your tax dollars to sort of protect you that is fine

but stop whining about those of us who see our own safety and that of our family's a personal responsibility

This is not about me owning a gun or you owning a gun and stop trying to make this a personal attack based on that fact.

You cannot deal with the reality that there are people like myself who support gun ownership and desire we find a way as a people to stop this madness. For an extremist, the most dangerous thing that threatens their existence and power is the person who calls for rational discussion and reasonable solutions to complicated problems. That has the potential to expose and maybe even defeat your agenda and you simply cannot tolerate it.
 
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This is not about me owning a gun or you owning a gun and stop trying to make this a personal attack based on that fact.

its about you supporting the anti gun agenda but not having the balls to really come out and say it
 
Turtle that kind of BS is not as useful as a fifty pound bag of garden manure and is half as honest.

I have no problem with people owning guns. If you want a gun for your home or business or sports and recreational use that is great and I am supportive of that.

Got that Turtle? I DO NOT WANT A SOCIETY WHERE ONLY THE HOODS AND STATE ARE ARMED.

So lets flush that stupid comment down the toilet with the other content that belongs there.

You know damn well that nobody here wants the stupid strawman perversion you just described. So why don't you get some intellectual integrity and knock off the frankenstein monster straw men for once?


Oh come off of it.

We've already established that you don't like what most of us on the pro-gun side consider "middle ground". You've indicated that you don't like shall-issue concealed carry, or the possession of tactically effective weapons by civilians.

You haven't been specific at all about what you DO want to do, just very vocal in protesting that you want "reasonable restrictions". Problem is you won't define them... and I'm guessing you won't define them because you know we'd find your version of "reasonable" to be most UNreasonable, and/or ineffective.

It is highly, HIGHLY improbable that any gun control law would have stopped this guy. I think you know that anything you propose would have holes shot in it, metaphorically speaking, as being ineffective in preventing this man from engaging in mass murder.

As I've said, we already have many states, like my own, where many people go armed daily and possess what you'd term "powerful weapons". We also don't have wholesale bloodbaths like this Colorado thing, or at least much more rarely.
 
So by that tremendous use of logic there are no extremists that dare not be called out?

When the status-quo is declared extreme, you're one step from Waco.
 
In Aurora, CO it is ILLEGAL to carry firearms in the theater, thus ONLY the killer was armed. You can duck, bob and weave but that is the law there. To say that this had no effect on that being the chosen killing ground is absurd. The whimpy Batman killer made no stand against LEOs, he simply surrendered. Many assert, and I tend to agree, that ANY armed resistance would have likely stopped his brief assault and murder spree, or at least made him pause and seek cover long enough to allow many more to escape injury and death. When you are up to your ass in alligators it is hard to remember that your mission was simply to drain the swamp. ;-)

In Colorado if you have a CCW permit you can carry in a theater. You can even carry if the theater does not permit it... If the theater doesn't have guards and detectors... Which this theater didn't... Just sayin
 
In Colorado if you have a CCW permit you can carry in a theater. You can even carry if the theater does not permit it... If the theater doesn't have guards and detectors... Which this theater didn't... Just sayin

In Ohio if you carry into a place that has no CCWs it is considered trespassing-a misdemeanor. It may be grounds for revocation
 
In Colorado if you have a CCW permit you can carry in a theater. You can even carry if the theater does not permit it... If the theater doesn't have guards and detectors... Which this theater didn't... Just sayin

Colorado has local pre-emption on gun laws, so it would depend on the city. Many Colorado cities are very anti-gun. Denver's chief used to brag that he'd arrest anyone carrying a gun in Denver, permit or no permit.
 
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Racial diversity in Canada and Japan? Are you kidding me?

YOur own sources prove that Canada has a diverse population just as I claimed. And nothing you presented shows that I was wrong in stating that there are minorities in Japan.

You claimed cultural differences without offering any proof that the stuff mentioned either exists or is important as a factor.
 
its about you supporting the anti gun agenda but not having the balls to really come out and say it

What anti-gun agenda?

I already have said - repeatedly - that I fully support the right of an American to have a firearm to protect themselves or use for their own recreational purposes.

Which words in that statement do you not understand?
 
Oh come off of it.

We've already established that you don't like what most of us on the pro-gun side consider "middle ground". You've indicated that you don't like shall-issue concealed carry, or the possession of tactically effective weapons by civilians.

You haven't been specific at all about what you DO want to do, just very vocal in protesting that you want "reasonable restrictions". Problem is you won't define them... and I'm guessing you won't define them because you know we'd find your version of "reasonable" to be most UNreasonable, and/or ineffective.

It is highly, HIGHLY improbable that any gun control law would have stopped this guy. I think you know that anything you propose would have holes shot in it, metaphorically speaking, as being ineffective in preventing this man from engaging in mass murder.

As I've said, we already have many states, like my own, where many people go armed daily and possess what you'd term "powerful weapons". We also don't have wholesale bloodbaths like this Colorado thing, or at least much more rarely.

Middle ground!?!?!?!?!?!? Carrying around powerful weapons in public is middle ground?!?!?!?!?!?!? Needing what you euphemistically call "tactically effective weapons" is your version of middle ground!?!?!?!?!?

And you wonder why some of you are labeled as extremists?

Amazing!!!!! :roll:
 
What anti-gun agenda?

I already have said - repeatedly - that I fully support the right of an American to have a firearm to protect themselves or use for their own recreational purposes.

Which words in that statement do you not understand?

your rant about making dead people "martyrs of the second amendment" says otherwise
 
Middle ground!?!?!?!?!?!? Carrying around powerful weapons in public is middle ground?!?!?!?!?!?!? Needing what you euphemistically call "tactically effective weapons" is your version of middle ground!?!?!?!?!?

And you wonder why some of you are labeled as extremists?

Amazing!!!!! :roll:

more evidence of your anti gun proclivities.

what is your idea of middle ground-banning "tactical weapons"
 
When the status-quo is declared extreme, you're one step from Waco.

So by your leap of logic the status quo cannot be extreme? History tells a very different story. But why confuse you with facts when you would rather engage in political order following.

Yeah I know - only a racist calls other people racists. Only an extremist calls other people extremists. Only a .... whatever.... we get the idea.
 
your rant about making dead people "martyrs of the second amendment" says otherwise

Why? Why does such a request to respectfully honor the innocents slain offend you?
 
Why? Why does such a request to respectfully honor the innocents slain offend you?

you just don't get it

you want to piss over the second amendment by suggesting the amendment is what killed those people

everyone else saw your intent
 
more evidence of your anti gun proclivities.

what is your idea of middle ground-banning "tactical weapons"

By your warped 'logic' not wanting an automobile to drive 200 mph down a city street is being ANTI CAR.
 
Middle ground!?!?!?!?!?!? Carrying around powerful weapons in public is middle ground?!?!?!?!?!?!? Needing what you euphemistically call "tactically effective weapons" is your version of middle ground!?!?!?!?!?

And you wonder why some of you are labeled as extremists?

Amazing!!!!! :roll:


We need tactical guns and other tactical stuff. So what? Why do you freak out.
 
By your warped 'logic' not wanting an automobile to drive 200 mph down a city street is being ANTI CAR.

its illegal to drive that fast

only morons would ban owing a car when there are places where you can legally drive 200 MPH
 
By your warped 'logic' not wanting an automobile to drive 200 mph down a city street is being ANTI CAR.

You do understand the difference between arms and vehicles, right?
 
We need tactical guns and other tactical stuff. So what? Why do you freak out.

he thinks the second amendment is limited to weapons designed for shooting tin cans or only two robbers at a time I suspect
 
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