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Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

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tessaesque said:
Whatever he was using must have had some power to it. One witness was in the next theater over and said bullets came through the walls. Theater walls are very thick, heavily insulated, and steel reinforced.
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Metal jacketed, but could be anything from AK-47 to .223 to .308. If not concrete walls, even a high capacity 9mm with metal jacketed rounds such as a Uzi-style rifle, though unlikely. A .223 would be the easiest for the max number of rounds, but the one witness said he guessed 20 rounds, which then means it could be anything.

FORTUNATELY none of these nutcases has used a 150 round twin canister .223 they converted to full auto. Not much larger than a large handgun and, fortunately, he didn't use explosives.

There is no preventing things such as this from happening, though talking heads on TV will claim there is ad nausea.
 
muciti said:
I saw some local video of them going in and i know they were worried about traps but nothing went off. They either disarmed it or he was just storing them.
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The Police stated that they found bombs in his aparment because he told him there were. None were armed.

They've also reported that he had both a rifle and a shotgun.
 
joko104 said:
Unfortunately, now taxpayers will spend millions of dollars on this guy who will consume national news for days.

In extreme instances like this I'd prefer he was shot in the head by the arriving police and then his body thrown off some ship out to sea. Instead, there will be the totally predictable gratuitous lamenting by talking heads and politicians, another gun control debate, and people watching this incident for hours and hours in a world of 6,000,000,000 with 10,000,000 crazy murderous people among them.


(At least then we'd know who really had been killed and that there was not fraud or coverup.)
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I very much agree. You can find a cheap .22 for $50 probably and a case of 20 or so rounds for even less. Sigh........sometimes having a justice system that is far better than a third world sucks.
 
joko104 said:
Unfortunately, now taxpayers will spend millions of dollars on this guy who will consume national news for days.

In extreme instances like this I'd prefer he was shot in the head by the arriving police and then his body thrown off some ship out to sea. Instead, there will be the totally predictable gratuitous lamenting by talking heads and politicians, another gun control debate, and people watching this incident for hours and hours in a world of 6,000,000,000 with 10,000,000 crazy murderous people among them.


(At least then we'd know who really had been killed and that there was not fraud or coverup.)
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While part of me agrees with you on the rough justice end for scum like this we must remember that perhaps we can learn something about people like this which may help us down the road.
 
joko104 said:
Metal jacketed, but could be anything from AK-47 to .223 to .308. If not concrete walls, even a high capacity 9mm with metal jacketed rounds such as a Uzi-style rifle, though unlikely. A .223 would be the easiest for the max number of rounds, but the one witness said he guessed 20 rounds, which then means it could be anything.

FORTUNATELY none of these nutcases has used a 150 round twin canister .223 they converted to full auto. Not much larger than a large handgun and, fortunately, he didn't use explosives.

There is no preventing things such as this from happening, though talking heads on TV will claim there is ad nausea.
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I wonder if the guy planned on killing himself, like most do in these type of mass-murder plans?
 
what really needs to be the concern now is the people who are having thoughts of duplicating it. Hopefully this event doesnt motivate any other wackjobs looking to make the news.
 
This is what happens when you give a crazy person guns. First that teabagger shoots congresswoman giffords and now this guy. Whne will people learn.
 
haymarket said:
While part of me agrees with you on the rough justice end for scum like this we must remember that perhaps we can learn something about people like this which may help us down the road.
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I wonder how much of this digital age of violent video games, fantasy/animated CGI movies is having as an effect on impressionable young minds? At 24 yrs old I still had a comic book collection though I wasn't living in a world of make believe.
 
TurtleDude said:
as someone who has trained in active shooter scenarios its very hard to deploy such a weapon in a crowded massacre scenario. Think of a movie theater, the masses and the fact that the longest distance is less than 50-70 yards. Someone armed with a Concealed handgun would have a far better chance.
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Well obviously the other person deployed quite well.

I havent the chance to get much details. I just saw it on the TVs passing through Austin Airport. It looked like it was outside on some set?
 
99percenter said:
This is what happens when you give a crazy person guns. First that teabagger shoots congresswoman giffords and now this guy. Whne will people learn.
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The shooter if Gabby Giffords was not a "teabagger". That was debunked almost immediately. I'd remind you to stay on topic.
 
Hugh_Akston said:
The shooter if Gabby Giffords was not a "teabagger". That was debunked almost immediately. I'd remind you to stay on topic.
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So can we talk about gun laws then? it is a politics forum
 
PeteEU said:
BBC News - Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver

Breaking news as I write this. Reported that 10 dead and 2 gunmen, and 1 arrested.

Speculation is now what the motivation is.
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I feel extremely sad about this.

I think that sadness of this situation is intensified by the expectations for and atmosphere of the event where this happened. Just the thought of people going to such an exciting event that they've probably been waiting for for a long time and having the happiest expectations only to be met with such violence and disregard for human life is saddening to the point of being sickening.

I'll pray for the families and the victims. My heart goes out to them and to the family of the shooter.
 
99percenter said:
This is what happens when you give a crazy person guns. First that teabagger shoots congresswoman giffords and now this guy. Whne will people learn.
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I would ask that people not blame liberals for stupid **** like this. Most of us try and make much more reasonable arguments.

And this whole situation is just terrible. I feel for the young people especially who where there and have to deal with the aftermath.
 
Redress said:
I would ask that people not blame liberals for stupid **** like this. Most of us try and make much more reasonable arguments.

And this whole situation is just terrible. I feel for the young people especially who where there and have to deal with the aftermath.
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I do as well. My heart goes out to the family of the victims and hope everyone that is hurt makes a full recovery.
 
24107 said:
Seem's some member's are creaming in their pants for this to be a ''jihadi''.
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And it would seem that some are creaming for even dumber things.

Dr. Chuckles said:
I'm figuring some right wing wacko from the reports. Kind of poorly planned and I'm sure they would favor better explosives. Possibly reacting to limbo
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I doubt these are the only examples of stupid posts in this thread.

For the record, "right wing" and "left wing" do not advocate for this heinous mayhem. Jihadists do though.
 
Hugh_Akston said:
The shooter if Gabby Giffords was not a "teabagger". That was debunked almost immediately. I'd remind you to stay on topic.
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Correct. But it did not stop the idiot liberals from making the claim then, or as we all see, again now.

Right on cue, this AM, on national TV, George Stephanopoulis reported "breaking news" that Mr. Holmes may have been active with the local Tea Party.

So hold on to your pants, it Loughner Part Deux !!
 
99percenter said:
So can we talk about gun laws then? it is a politics forum
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Let's see if we can focus on just how well the current TOTAL ban of recreational drugs is going, then decide whether similarly ineffective bans should be used to remove our constitutional rights, in order to fight "gun crime". The criminal acts, in this case, involve murder and attempted murder, both commanding sentences FAR more serious than any "gun law" penalty would be. It is NOT that these acts would otherwise have been impossible if not for gun laws, as morons do not "think through" how breaking laws will be seen as wrong, or spend much time contemplating "what if" they get caught. Those that want guns to help commit crime will OBVIOUSLY simply commit crime to get those guns, just as those that want recreational drugs willingly commit crimes to get them, and many will galdly accept the slight risk and tremendous profits to supply the illegal drugs/guns.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Sorry. No dice. Just "whacko" is accurate. Not right wing or left wing. Christian or Jew.

Just "whacko".
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Some people have to label him so they can blame a group. Individual responsibility is a thing of the past. Whatever party he voted, religion he followed, his race, sexual orientation, ect are all guilty too. They are all to blame.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Sorry. No dice. Just "whacko" is accurate. Not right wing or left wing. Christian or Jew.

Just "whacko".
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I'm mature enough to recognize the chance of this guy being some right wing nut job doesn't actually speak to some ingrained murderous intent in the ideology. If you can't come to the same conclusion just ignore my posts or grow a thicker skin
 
The FBI has revealed Holmes is a white male who is 6 feet, 3 inches tall and 24 years old, with a birth date of Dec. 13, 1987. Authorities have found no significant criminal record and no terrorist affiliations. Investigators suspect he acted alone.

Colorado Shooting: What We Know About James Holmes

His mother was in San Deigo.... Sounds like she is on her way to CO now.
 
muciti said:
Some people have to label him so they can blame a group. Individual responsibility is a thing of the past. Whatever party he voted, religion he followed, his race, sexual orientation, ect are all guilty too. They are all to blame.
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Or I could simply think he was inspired by right wing rhetoric? Don't worry, if it wasn't that, it would have been a lonely morning decoding his cornflakes
 
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