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Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

you have missed every one of his current campaign ads?

wow

Yes,I guess I did. But since you did not, please quote them for us and tell us how that is demonization and not merely a difference of opinion about economic policy?
 
that is because you believe in FROM EACH ACCORDING TO THEIR ABILITY

I do not

I think taxes should be based on what you get for what you pay more than how much you can afford

and if those who demand much government actually had to pay more for that, they might stop demanding so much government

Yeah. I'll be sure to mention that my friend who is working (39 hours a week at minimum wage) and has to receive foodstamps so she can feed her children. Quit stereotyping everyone who benefits from government assistance and you might actually be able to see them as human beings rather than the human garbage that you seem to imply they are.
 
Yeah. I'll be sure to mention that my friend who is working (39 hours a week at minimum wage) and has to receive foodstamps so she can feed her children. Quit stereotyping everyone who benefits from government assistance and you might actually be able to see them as human beings rather than the human garbage that you seem to imply they are.

So food stamps indirectly supplement her employer and the crap wage
 
Yeah. I'll be sure to mention that my friend who is working (39 hours a week at minimum wage) and has to receive foodstamps so she can feed her children. Quit stereotyping everyone who benefits from government assistance and you might actually be able to see them as human beings rather than the human garbage that you seem to imply they are.


why did she have more than one child if she is only capable of a minimum wage job

tell me why I have a duty to be taxed more and more because she wants more government (or you want more government for her)

I think the garbage are people who demand I have to pay more taxes so they can keep getting more and more votes or handouts

not people who have bad luck
 
Yes. Those are indeed articles.

And just what in there supports a charge of demonization of success rather than a difference of position on economic policy?


Call it what you will. Perhaps you should write to clinton and he can explain the meaning it "it".
 
Call it what you will. Perhaps you should write to clinton and he can explain the meaning it "it".

I have no idea what that means. I simply want to see the evidence of Obama demonizing success. So far, we have seen nothing of the kind.
 
No, what I am saying is that a true leader can find a way to work with his whole team. Not a dem or republican thing.

What most on this site do not understand is that the best CEOs work with and take the advise of the people working for them. This basic concept of good business, or good anything is what Obama seems to lack any understanding of.
What you fail to understand is the Republican minority leaders Sen. Mitch McConnell and Rep. John Boehner have made their mission not to compromise on ANYTHING that Obama proposes, says or does even when he proposes their own bills and things they have voted for in the past because as McConnell puts it, ""the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." To achieve their goal they are even willing to destroy the economy. Romney didn't have that problem because Democrats are more willing to compromise. Obama is true leader, Republicans are true traitors.
 
And you see Obama as good at that? Compromising?

I at least saw some effort. I saw republicans saying the number one priority was to make sure he failed. However, to be clear, I don't think this problem is limitied to one party. Both aprties suffer from it, and noth bases see the word as a dirty word. They are all wrong IMHO.
 
No. I just think it funny how far people will go. Even so far as lauding that which they personally oppose.

Business can, does, has and will exist and thrive with or without govt. It's that simple.

Does that mean there is no place for govt? Hell no, but the govt Obama wants is not the govt that got America where it is. Obama wants the kind of govt that is destroying Europe.
You sound sooo confused -- I lauded nothing.

I asked if businesses in the U.S. could thrive without the military to secure the nation?

A question which has endured several strawmen thrown at it, yet it remains unanswered.

I know what the answer is, don't you??
 
You sound sooo confused -- I lauded nothing.


You did, you cited something you oppose as the reason for success.

I asked if businesses in the U.S. could thrive without the military to secure the nation?

A question which has endured several strawmen thrown at it, yet it remains unanswered.

I know what the answer is, don't you??

And I answered it. Business would exist in this country regardless of its govt or the military that protects it.
 
I at least saw some effort. I saw republicans saying the number one priority was to make sure he failed. However, to be clear, I don't think this problem is limitied to one party. Both aprties suffer from it, and noth bases see the word as a dirty word. They are all wrong IMHO.

How much compromise with Republicans went into Obamacare?
 
No, what I am saying is that a true leader can find a way to work with his whole team. Not a dem or republican thing.

What most on this site do not understand is that the best CEOs work with and take the advise of the people working for them. This basic concept of good business, or good anything is what Obama seems to lack any understanding of.
No leader can work with a political party which publicly takes the stated position of blocking every one of said leader's actions,

That is not a reflection on Obama's leadership skills but a reflection on Republican values -- which remain, party before country.
 
How much compromise with Republicans went into Obamacare?

The entire Mandate is a republicna idea. But let's not forget, republicans were invited, but once they stated clearly they were only interested in seeing Obama fail, then and only then were they excluded. What happened is what happened. They could have come to the table in earnest. If they had, I'd have been with them. But they did not. What little effort there was came from Obama.
 
You did, you cited something you oppose as the reason for success.
You don't even know that "citing" something is not necessarily "lauding" it, do you?

Also, you still have no idea what I said. That is evidenced by this post of yours. I never said U.S. businesses are successful because of the U.S. military. I'm also not against the U.S. military, as you keep saying.


And I answered it. Business would exist in this country regardless of its govt or the military that protects it.
You couldn't be more wrong. U.S. businesses would last only until we got invaded.
 
The entire Mandate is a republicna idea. But let's not forget, republicans were invited, but once they stated clearly they were only interested in seeing Obama fail, then and only then were they excluded. What happened is what happened. They could have come to the table in earnest. If they had, I'd have been with them. But they did not. What little effort there was came from Obama.

The Mandate was an idea of a Republican, shot down by all the other Republicans. Republicans were not invited, they were stonewalled for all but one publicized meeting in the year leading up to the vote. Let's not forget that every sitting Republican and 34 sitting Democrats voted against it. That is not, in the least, a compromise.
 
You don't even know that "citing" something is not necessarily "lauding" it, do you?

Also, you still have no idea what I said. That is evidenced by this post of yours. I never said U.S. businesses are successful because of the U.S. military. I'm also not against the U.S. military, as you keep saying.



You couldn't be more wrong. U.S. businesses would last only until we got invaded.

"US" is irrelevant to the overall point. Business would survive regardless of the name of the govt, or lack of govt, for that matter.
 
The Mandate was an idea of a Republican, shot down by all the other Republicans.

Say what?? It was sponsored by some 20 Republicans. That's your idea of being "shot down by all the other Republicans."

:roll::roll::roll:
 
why did she have more than one child if she is only capable of a minimum wage job

tell me why I have a duty to be taxed more and more because she wants more government (or you want more government for her)

I think the garbage are people who demand I have to pay more taxes so they can keep getting more and more votes or handouts

not people who have bad luck

You aren't being taxed more and more. That is just simply incorrect. If you are like every other American on this planet, your taxes are near historical lows. Do some research. And that will continue be the case even if the Bush Tax Cuts are passed.
 
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