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Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

we love large-scale middle-class employers, meanwhile you guys think its fine & dandy to ship these obs overseas for slave-like wages & working conditions.

you can't claim to support American jobs while at the same time saying its ok to ship them to China.


Well we "shipped" our Space Program transportation to the Russians. But I'm sure it's not at the "slave-like wages".
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

Of course not, as long as the private sector is dictated and controlled by the government.

Where are you getting this hyperbolic over the top nonsense?
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

Where are you getting this hyperbolic over the top nonsense?

From the letters I am getting from the government telling me exactly what to do, how, and when.
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

Do we forget that the government is supposed to be by the people and for the people? Every government action is taken on behalf of the taxpayer. The taxpayer is the client that provides the money, and right now, the client isn't happy because the government is, while taking their money, acting on behalf of the freeloaders.

Could you please tell us who named you to speak for 311 million Americans?

I think its terrific to express YOUR OWN opinion about taxes and the government. But please do not pretend to speak for the American people because you do not.
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

From the letters I am getting from the government telling me exactly what to do, how, and when.

Could you please be more specific so your allegations can go beyond the mere right wing talking points heard on bad talk radio and into the realm of reality?
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

Could you please tell us who named you to speak for 311 million Americans?

I think its terrific to express YOUR OWN opinion about taxes and the government. But please do not pretend to speak for the American people because you do not.

Could you please tell us who named you to speak for 311 million Americans?

I think its terrific to express YOUR OWN opinion about taxes and the government. But please do not pretend to speak for the American people because you do not.

The Declaration of Independence.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness- The Declaration of Independence
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Aren't the polls interesting? I don't represent 311 million, but apparently I represent 55% of them, at least on this one issue.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law
 
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That's because you're a Conservative.

Conservatives don't understand economics. That's why they have to depend on the government to survive and also blame the government whenever their businesses fail.

The only problem with this post, is that nothing you've posted so far is even true.
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

That's because you're a Conservative.

Conservatives don't understand economics. That's why they have to depend on the government to survive and also blame the government whenever their businesses fail.

The only problem with this post, is that nothing you've posted so far is even true.
 
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It's not about necessary for civilization. But where would the trucking industry be today if the government hadn't built the Interstate system? Every business and every consumer benefits from it in some way, but the trucking industry as we know it wouldn't exist.

Things like infrastructure were largely built by government. It's one of the few things the government can effectively build the economy.

The interstate system was initially created for rapid military deployment.
Just like the Romans, people took advantage of it and turned it into a more efficient method of deliver goods and services.
 
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The interstate system was initially created for rapid military deployment.
Just like the Romans, people took advantage of it and turned it into a more efficient method of deliver goods and services.

Wasn't it President Eisenhower that established this program?
 
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Wasn't it President Eisenhower that established this program?

Well, the interstate system is named after him. ;)
 
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He was given credit for it, but the initial designs for it were started a couple of decades before he was president.

I guess I could have looked it up, just a little busy. But thanks for the feedback.
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

From the letters I am getting from the government telling me exactly what to do, how, and when.

If you wrap your mailbox in tin foil the letters will probably stop.
 
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Wasn't it President Eisenhower that established this program?


Too bad there isn't an Eisenhower to vote for now.
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

If you wrap your mailbox in tin foil the letters will probably stop.

what about the fact the government can take control of my private phone with Verizon service?
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

The Declaration of Independence.

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Aren't the polls interesting? I don't represent 311 million, but apparently I represent 55% of them, at least on this one issue.

Health Care Law - Rasmussen Reports™

First, I have no idea what a poll on the health care law has to do with my post or your previous comments.

Second, I looked at your link. Only 41% of those expressed strong support to repeal the law as it stands today. And its Rasmussen which means you can take five points right off the conservative leaning end of it. Other polls - several which have been discussed in other threads right here - point to a majority in support of some of the provisions of the law and a minority in favor out outright total repeal of it.

Ask people if they support specific provisions of the Health Care law such as no barring of previous conditions, extending your kids to age 26 on your policy and no lifetime limits on benefits and see what you get.

Since this has become a cause celebre of the right, poll numbers on this are highly politicized depending on how the question is asked.

But again, this has NOTHING to do with my previous post. NOTHING.

As to the Declaration of Independence - its a nice little birth announcement. No more - no less. It means nothing beyond that.
 
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Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

Why is that not smart?


Not sucking on the public teat makes one less dependent on the public teat and thus less beholden to those tho supply the public teat with milk-democrat politicians
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

First of all, Obama didn't make any reference to the consumer. He was saying that the businesses couldn't have gotten where they are without government. Of course businesses need consumers, bu consumers didn't "build the business." They don't even create the demand. Marketing and a damned good product or service creates the demand- neither of which can occur without the hard work of the business owner.

An entrepreneur can design and implement the best marketing plan on Planet Earth. He can have what he thinks is the best widget on Planet Earth. Without consumers who can afford it and agree with him? He's got jack****. Consumers build a business with their decision enmass to consume. Consumers create demand. I don't think we disagree that much. But that statement? Totally wrong.
 
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The government is the only reason apdst had any business at all, because it was the government that did the un-Libertarian thing of shielding offshore drillers from liability; without that shield, there would be no offshore drilling at all, and hence, no need for anyone like apdst to service the rigs.

In a Libertarian system, there would be no government shielding anyone from liability. And that's the system I want. And, of course, in such a system, apdst would have no business since there would be no offshore drilling in such a system.

Bottom line: conservatives like apdst could not survive in a Libertarian (free market) environment. Businesses like his can only survive in a non-free market system where government steps in to shield firms from liability.

What left wing rag did you read that in?
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

I read what he said, and you're wrong. Sorry.

From the link:

“If you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen,” he said. “The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.”


Read more: Obama to business owners: 'You didn't build that' | Fox News

This is exactly what I spoke of. Context. We must read all the words.

Getting across the message that having, or even needing help becoming successful is polar opposite to "If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen." Like I stated before, if Obama hadn't made that statement we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Everyone knows Obama is all about big government and you need the government because under his administration more and more have become government dependent.

It's really a sad and dysfunctional statement about American ingenuity and resourcefulness, i. e., the American way of life (as we new it before Obama.)
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

Um...Obama was right.

Business owners didn't build those bridges & roads.
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

Um...Obama was right.

Business owners didn't build those bridges & roads.

Like hell they didnt'! Those roads and bridges were built by privately owned construction companies.

Spin it how you want, those roads and bridges were built and paid for by the private sector.
 
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Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

Like hell they didnt'! Those roads and bridges were built by privately owned construction companies.

and tax-payer funded engineers, construction managers, surveyors, etc etc..
 
Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

Um...Obama was right.

Business owners didn't build those bridges & roads.

Construction companies build them, you don't know ****.
 
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