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Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

Why would most moderate Democrats want to vote for someone who doesn't appeal to so many in his own party?

Hell, who knows Romney better than his own state of Massachusetts? And they don't want him!


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Well according to many on this site we need moderates you are willing to negotiate with the other side. Now we will see. Romney was able to get things done in a legislature dominated by the other party. Obama has proven a failure in this regard.
 
Well according to many on this site we need moderates you are willing to negotiate with the other side. Now we will see. Romney was able to get things done in a legislature dominated by the other party. Obama has proven a failure in this regard.

What we need is the understanding that good work comes through compromise.
 
Well according to many on this site we need moderates you are willing to negotiate with the other side. Now we will see. Romney was able to get things done in a legislature dominated by the other party. Obama has proven a failure in this regard.

Sounds like you are saying that Democrats are more willing to compromise and work with the other party than are Republicans.


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Oh so now you are talking about local roads and state things-not the things Oblama uses to justify higher FEDERAL taxes


most of the sales taxes paid by the bottom 30% comes from money GIVEN to them by the government which gets that money from people like ME. So in reality I am paying for their "contributions"

NOT THEM

the bottom 20% get three dollars from the federal government for every dollar they actually make

the top one percent are paying an effective tax rate of about 28C on every dollar they make

its not until you hit the top 40% that there is a net tax payment rather than a negative tax payment (meaning money back)
Oh geesh. I get so tired of these argument that say that the guy earning 300,000 a year and only getting to keep 200,000 of it for personal use(ie. vacation homes, fancy cars, maids, gardeners and yachts) is somehow getting a raw deal over the person who makes 20,000 a year and gets to keep a whopping 15,000 of it for personal use(ie pay for food, rent, transportation, clothing and a few small luxuries). That means the guy earning the 300G can afford to buy a new house, IN CASH, nearly every frickin' year of almost his entire life and the guy making 20G will probably NEVER be able to purchase a house in his entire lifetime. Cry me a river for the 300k guy! The ultra wealthy are paying less in taxes than they have in decades, so why are so many people demanding they pay even less?! It just makes no sense, neither moral nor economic.
 
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we should all be hostile to tyranny over the mind of man, and LYING about your opponent to get votes is tyranny.
What does it say about us when we are eager and willing to believe ANYTHING BAD said about the politicians we don't like.
It is laziness at the least, especially when there is so much truth that is even more damaging. But a lot of politicians have so many skeletons in their closets that they have to be careful what they say as backlash is always a possibility.
Clear enough?
Okay. Nothing there I can disagree with. Carry on.
 
okay, let's talk aboutit. Examples and evidence(facts would be nice) to back up your assertion. Thank you, TurtleDude

You are new here. Allow me to help. You know the joke how a cleaning service will tell you that they don't do windows? That is a lot like Turtle with evidence.

But keep asking. I do. WHo knows - maybe someday somehow..... probably right after somebody captures a real unicorn.;):roll:
 
Oh geesh. I get so tired of these argument that say that the guy earning 300,000 a year and only getting to keep 200,000 of it for personal use(ie. vacation homes, fancy cars, maids, gardeners and yachts) is somehow getting a raw deal over the person who makes 20,000 a year and gets to keep a whopping 15,000 of it for personal use(ie pay for food, rent, transportation, clothing and a few small luxuries). That means the guy earning the 300G can afford to buy a new house, IN CASH, nearly every frickin' year of almost his entire life and the guy making 20G will probably NEVER be able to purchase a house in his entire lifetime. Cry me a river for the 300k guy! The ultra wealthy are paying less in taxes than they have in decades, so why are so many people demanding they pay even less?! It just makes no sense, neither moral nor economic.

that is because you believe in FROM EACH ACCORDING TO THEIR ABILITY

I do not

I think taxes should be based on what you get for what you pay more than how much you can afford

and if those who demand much government actually had to pay more for that, they might stop demanding so much government
 
You are new here. Allow me to help. You know the joke how a cleaning service will tell you that they don't do windows? That is a lot like Turtle with evidence.

But keep asking. I do. WHo knows - maybe someday somehow..... probably right after somebody captures a real unicorn.;):roll:


Since we are educating the newbie why don't you tell him that your posts never meet the standards of proof you try to impose on others
 
What is "good work"?

Problem solving, a functioning government. I realize that to support government doesn't work, there is a need to sabotage the process. But, to reach conclusions, and do the people's work, which they were hired to do, compromise is neccesary.
 
Sounds like you are saying that Democrats are more willing to compromise and work with the other party than are Republicans.


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No, what I am saying is that a true leader can find a way to work with his whole team. Not a dem or republican thing.

What most on this site do not understand is that the best CEOs work with and take the advise of the people working for them. This basic concept of good business, or good anything is what Obama seems to lack any understanding of.
 


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No, but then, that has nothing to do with what I said either. Are you also deflecting from what I said in order to avoid answering my question?

No. I just think it funny how far people will go. Even so far as lauding that which they personally oppose.

Business can, does, has and will exist and thrive with or without govt. It's that simple.

Does that mean there is no place for govt? Hell no, but the govt Obama wants is not the govt that got America where it is. Obama wants the kind of govt that is destroying Europe.
 
Problem solving, a functioning government. I realize that to support government doesn't work, there is a need to sabotage the process. But, to reach conclusions, and do the people's work, which they were hired to do, compromise is neccesary.

And you see Obama as good at that? Compromising?
 
But he ain't Obama, right?

Newt noted (now trust me, I don't have much use for the slimy salamander but some of the far right poor losers do) that the issue is not how conservative Mitt is compared to say Newt or Ronald Reagan or Barry Goldwater but how conservative he is compared to Oblama and Mitt is FAR FAR More conservative on all the major issues than Oblama
 
And you see Obama as good at that? Compromising?

engaging in class warfare and demonizing success to cover up for a lack of competency
 
engaging in class warfare and demonizing success to cover up for a lack of competency

Then it should be easy for you to quote his words where he did that.
 
Okay. Nothing there I can disagree with. Carry on.

not to worry....I am sure that you will find at least one of my posts will be disagreeable to you, since you are a liberal.
Problem is, I seem to get a lot of conservatives calling me liberal. Hardly ever get a liberal calling me a conservative.
Not sure what that means...:shock:
 
Then it should be easy for you to quote his words where he did that.

OK here are a couple off the top of my head.

During the auto bailouts, Obama called bondholders of Chysler debt greedy speculators. How about when he asked how much is enough when talking about certain CEO pay.
 
OK here are a couple off the top of my head.

During the auto bailouts, Obama called bondholders of Chysler debt greedy speculators. How about when he asked how much is enough when talking about certain CEO pay.

Did I miss the part where you reproduced the quotes and then offered analysis as to how that proves he demonizes success as Turtle alleges?

Without seeing the exact quotes I could not say for sure, however, it seems you are confusing a dispute about tax policy or the worth of ones labor with the hyperbolic over the top charge of demonizing success.
 
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Then it should be easy for you to quote his words where he did that.

you have missed every one of his current campaign ads?

wow
 
Did I miss the part where you reproduced the quotes and then offered analysis as to how that proves he demonizes success as Turtle alleges?

Without seeing the exact quotes I could not say for sure, however, it seems you are confusing a dispute about tax policy or the worth of ones labor with the hyperbolic over the top charge of demonizing success.


You are telling me you do not remember these comments. I know you work for a politician but lets be childish.
 
You are telling me you do not remember these comments. I know you work for a politician but lets be childish.

I am merely asking you to give us the quotes so we an check for the allegation of demonization. As I stated, I suspect you are confusing the hyperbolic over the top charge of demonization with a simply difference of opinion about economic policy.
 
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