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US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

Of course. Almost by definition, liberals tend to be pacifist. They'd rather go to college and take up a pet cause like saving the penguins while studying to become lawyers, teachers, or social workers than volunteer to become Marines or G.I.s. So unless their own skins are in danger of being drafted or someone named Bush is President, they're probably more concerned with the lives of the penguins than Marines.

The legal profession is far more varied than most people realize. There is a network of conservative law professors stretching across the country who are one of the pillars of conservative thought. They are among the best educated people on earth. Never underestimate your foe or you risk being surprised.
 
I bet you really wish that was true. ****ing liberals with their educations... LOL.

Well, I'm just speaking from personal experience. I've never met a liberal who volunteered to become a Marine. In fact, I think most liberals would go into hysterics if they ever caught their kid watching a Bonanza rerun on TV Land. The thought of Little Asher ogling Hoss Cartwright's "war toy" 1873 Colt Single Action Army would, no doubt, force his parents to place him into therapy.
 
As you should know, the Iranian Government has threaten to close the strait of hormuz, which is a big deal, because alot of the world's oil is transpoted through there. President Obama has warned the Iranian Govenment, that if it wishes to try and close the strait, military force would be used. That is why we have a aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf, so the strait would not be close. Obama, is trying to use intimidation, so there will not be a need to use military force, like you would make your self appear bigger than you are to a bear to scare it off. Bush, on the other hand didnt even try to use intimidation, he just dragged us into a useless conflict, for nothing. Yes, 9/11 was a terrible thing, but we could have tracked down and killed the ones who were responsible for the attack, not drag in two countries. I got off topic, sorry. I do not think Obama is the greatest President, but he is doing a good job keeping the lion in it's cage, figuratively of course.
 
American soldiers, marines, sailors and airmen simply are the best the world has ever known. They serve a polity with a political culture that doesn't deserve such men and women. We have bigger problems than we realize.

Again, I repeat the question. Who is it that you think the U.S. Fifth Fleet should flee in terror from? The Iranians? As the man said, give it a rest.
 
Well, I'm just speaking from personal experience. I've never met a liberal who volunteered to become a Marine. In fact, I think most liberals would go into hysterics if they ever caught their kid watching a Bonanza rerun on TV Land. The thought of Little Asher ogling Hoss Cartwright's "war toy" 1873 Colt Single Action Army would, no doubt, force his parents to place him into therapy.

You speak from ignorance. Your another one of those superpatriots who think all real mean are right wing conservative Republicans and that no Democrat or liberal has ever served in the military or defended this country. Obviously you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. You honestly think that every single Marine is a conservative Republican? Are you nuts?
 
You speak from ignorance.


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Obviously you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.


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Probably, but try reading what I wrote. Where did I ever use the word "Democrat"? In the South, "democrat" is sometimes used as an epithet to describe a black person. Obviously, lots of blacks volunteer to serve in the military, usually because they can't find a job in the civilian workforce or have limited job skills. But I don't normally view blacks as "liberals," or people who care much about taking up liberal causes like saving the penguins. As long as they get their SNAP cards and Medicaid, I think most poor blacks are good with letting the penguins permanently slide into the ocean. Same goes for white blue-collar, union types. They just want the lights to stay on and don't suffer bouts of insomnia worrying about global warming.
 
January 20, 2009 was the date the leftist anti-war movement went silent. That's why President Obama has a free hand to wage unrestricted drone war against civilians in Pakistan, Somalia and Kenya. He's even building new drone bases in the Indian Ocean so he can reach out and touch sleeping villagers any where in the vicinity of the Indian Ocean. Obama doesn't take prisoners. He kills them dead along with their families and anyone else who happens by. He even launches drone strikes against people who he doesn't identify. If they make the wrong move he kills them dead.

Now President Obama has built up US forces around Iran in order to intimidate that country. He's goig to get America into another war. That's a very foolish thing to do.


Albert, id much rather obama use Drones to kill our enemies, than put marines and grunts and put them in jeopardy...I cant find fault with with drone attacks...I appreciate them, for every drone that saves a soldier thats a drone worth everything to me.
 
You speak from ignorance. Your another one of those superpatriots who think all real mean are right wing conservative Republicans and that no Democrat or liberal has ever served in the military or defended this country. Obviously you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. You honestly think that every single Marine is a conservative Republican? Are you nuts?

The irony is that all of these anti-government, hard-core conservatives are wildly devoted to one of the most socialist organizations on earth. :lol:
 
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Probably, but try reading what I wrote. Where did I ever use the word "Democrat"? In the South, "democrat" is sometimes used as an epithet to describe a black person. Obviously, lots of blacks volunteer to serve in the military, usually because they can't find a job in the civilian workforce or have limited job skills. But I don't normally view blacks as "liberals," or people who care much about taking up liberal causes like saving the penguins. As long as they get their SNAP cards and Medicaid, I think most poor blacks are good with letting the penguins permanently slide into the ocean. Same goes for white blue-collar, union types. They just want the lights to stay on and don't suffer bouts of insomnia worrying about global warming.

Wow. Blacks only serve in the military because they can't find a job in civilian life or have limited job skills? Racism much? In fact, your entire post is racist. Only southern Democrats serve in the military?

I think I was far too tame with my initial evaluation of your first effort. Your second one could be straight from the KKK handbook.
 
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Probably, but try reading what I wrote. Where did I ever use the word "Democrat"? In the South, "democrat" is sometimes used as an epithet to describe a black person. Obviously, lots of blacks volunteer to serve in the military, usually because they can't find a job in the civilian workforce or have limited job skills. But I don't normally view blacks as "liberals," or people who care much about taking up liberal causes like saving the penguins. As long as they get their SNAP cards and Medicaid, I think most poor blacks are good with letting the penguins permanently slide into the ocean. Same goes for white blue-collar, union types. They just want the lights to stay on and don't suffer bouts of insomnia worrying about global warming.

I think you should try reading what you write! I don't think many would argue that you clearly have issues with racism. You should work on it.

The best part of arguing against people like you is that I don't even need to form an argument as your falls in on itself. LOL
 
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Wow. Blacks only serve in the military because they can't find a job in civilian life or have limited job skills? Racism much? In fact, your entire post is racist. Only southern Democrats serve in the military?

Yeah, that's right. I think the decision to enlist today is largely driven by economics. In fact, that goes for the majority of enlistees today, regardless of race. So if you if you want to brand me an equal opportunity hater instead of engage in an actual debate be my guest. If you're interested in an honest debate, ask yourself this question: How many privileged white kids enlist in the Marines or the Army because they love their country? If they do, their parents want to have them committed. And ask yourself what would happen to recruitment without the G.I. Bill, allowances, and bonuses paid today? Let's see how many people would join if the government paid what it paid, inflation adjusted, to draftees back during the Vietnam War.
 
practicing what they preach,never gonna happen,they will demonize republicans,one up republicans on the same issues and fight tooth and nail to say its ok by demonizing bush.

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hers a fun fact,if yall hate bush so much,WHY ARE YOU SUPPORTING A DEMOCRAT FOLLOWING HIS POLICIES!!!!!!!!!!!!oh i see its only bad if someone with an (r)next to his name does it.


Many support Obama simply because the alternative is far worse. Not much choice in the American political system at present
 
The best part of arguing against people like you is that I don't even need to form an argument as your falls in on itself. LOL

You need to study logic. The merit or truth of an argument is not determined by the person making it.
 
Yeah, that's right. I think the decision to enlist today is largely driven by economics. In fact, that goes for the majority of enlistees today, regardless of race. So if you if you want to brand me an equal opportunity hater instead of engage in an actual debate be my guest. If you're interested in an honest debate, ask yourself this question: How many privileged white kids enlist in the Marines or the Army because they love their country? If they do, their parents want to have them committed. And ask yourself what would happen to recruitment without the G.I. Bill, allowances, and bonuses paid today? Let's see how many people would join if the government paid what it paid, inflation adjusted, to draftees back during the Vietnam War.

False comparison. You're comparing the thinking of the very tiny minority of the rich, and claiming it represents the thinking of the rest of Americans.
 
Yeah, that's right. I think the decision to enlist today is largely driven by economics. In fact, that goes for the majority of enlistees today, regardless of race. So if you if you want to brand me an equal opportunity hater instead of engage in an actual debate be my guest. If you're interested in an honest debate, ask yourself this question: How many privileged white kids enlist in the Marines or the Army because they love their country? If they do, their parents want to have them committed. And ask yourself what would happen to recruitment without the G.I. Bill, allowances, and bonuses paid today? Let's see how many people would join if the government paid what it paid, inflation adjusted, to draftees back during the Vietnam War.


Well, just two examples I can offer: Joe Biden's son volunteered and served in Iraq. Not one of Mitt Romney's sons could be bothered with enlisting.

or how about the Congressional race in Illinois? That great patriot Republican Congressman Joe Walsh never served in the military, his Democratic opponent - a woman, lost both of her legs when her Black Hawk was shot down in Iraq.

You must be right - only real true Americans volunteer for service and they are all Republicans - yeah right!

Another one, ever heard of a guy named Pat Tillman?
 
False comparison. You're comparing the thinking of the very tiny minority of the rich, and claiming it represents the thinking of the rest of Americans.

Somerville offers up one liberal--count 'em--one--who joined the military as representative of the rest of liberaldom and you give him a "Like." :lol: Beau Biden does fill the stereotypical bill of a liberal: lawyer and politician. Besides, he didn't enlist; he's an officer. Yeah, he served in Iraq as a member of a Delaware National Guard unit at Camp Victory that dealt with command and control, but I'll bet he didn't have to get his nails too dirty. Plus, if he ever got the munchies he could make a night run to Pizza Hut or Subway.
 
Since when is that a problem for conservatives?

Since when is it not a problem with Libbos? Since the most Liberal Democrat president got elected, perhaps?
 
Since that day in January 2009 when a Democrat assumed the office of the President.

C'mon, let's be real...if this were Bush, Libbo heads would be exploding right now. Right?
 
Somerville offers up one liberal--count 'em--one--who joined the military as representative of the rest of liberaldom and you give him a "Like." :lol: Beau Biden does fill the stereotypical bill of a liberal: lawyer and politician. Besides, he didn't enlist; he's an officer. Yeah, he served in Iraq as a member of a Delaware National Guard unit at Camp Victory that dealt with command and control, but I'll bet he didn't have to get his nails too dirty. Plus, if he ever got the munchies he could make a night run to Pizza Hut or Subway.

I'd like to know, how you know, what the motives are of everyone joining the military. Please list the studies you've conducted and the methods you employed in the study. Otherwise, admit it. You're guessing.
 
Well, just two examples I can offer: Joe Biden's son volunteered and served in Iraq. Not one of Mitt Romney's sons could be bothered with enlisting.

or how about the Congressional race in Illinois? That great patriot Republican Congressman Joe Walsh never served in the military, his Democratic opponent - a woman, lost both of her legs when her Black Hawk was shot down in Iraq.

You must be right - only real true Americans volunteer for service and they are all Republicans - yeah right!

Another one, ever heard of a guy named Pat Tillman?

not a valid excuse,the right has promised worse,but the left has delivered it while having those who voted him to abolish such acts support him for enacting republican style policy,simply because he has a d next to his name.

basically democrats go by what someone says they will do and republicans tend to go by what they have actually done.
 
I'd like to know, how you know, what the motives are of everyone joining the military. Please list the studies you've conducted and the methods you employed in the study. Otherwise, admit it. You're guessing.

OK, I'll admit it: I'm guessing. Best I can find is a racist survey (If you mention race, you're racist, right?) from 2004 that basically said officers (who are largely white and educated) tend to identify themselves as "conservative." As you go down the ranks and include more minorities, though, you find more "liberals." So I'm still left to wonder: How many well-educated, white liberals join the military? My guess is not many. They certainly don't wear their liberal stripes at West Point. I also wonder why Democrats squealed so loudly in 2000 when Bush's campaign moved to include overseas (largely military) ballots in the contested Florida election. I mean, if there we so many liberals in the military, what was the worry?


ISERP - Institute for Social and Economic Research and Policy
 
not a valid excuse,the right has promised worse,but the left has delivered it while having those who voted him to abolish such acts support him for enacting republican style policy,simply because he has a d next to his name.

basically democrats go by what someone says they will do and republicans tend to go by what they have actually done.


Could someone translate this comment for me because I have no idea what he is trying to get across?
 
Could someone translate this comment for me because I have no idea what he is trying to get across?

not gonna lie i dont understand that one,probably drunk and quoted the wrong person,wouldnt be the first time.
 
OK, I'll admit it: I'm guessing. Best I can find is a racist survey (If you mention race, you're racist, right?) from 2004 that basically said officers (who are largely white and educated) tend to identify themselves as "conservative." As you go down the ranks and include more minorities, though, you find more "liberals." So I'm still left to wonder: How many well-educated, white liberals join the military? My guess is not many. They certainly don't wear their liberal stripes at West Point. I also wonder why Democrats squealed so loudly in 2000 when Bush's campaign moved to include overseas (largely military) ballots in the contested Florida election. I mean, if there we so many liberals in the military, what was the worry?


ISERP - Institute for Social and Economic Research and Policy

Try to keep in mind that not all officers come from West Point, in fact only a small percent come from there. It's also an elite school so the background and personalities of those who attend are not representative of most officers. The study you linked focuses on West Point and ignores the rest of the officer corps. That's like only studying Harvard grads and making assessments about ALL college grads based on Harvard. Without doubt these hypothetical assessments would be generally wrong.
 
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