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SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

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covering it live on the blog. mods- not sure if this is the best venue, but it was "breaking"

Also, the Stolen Valor Act was declared to be in violation of the First Amendment, so any of you who are fake war heroes can go on telling people how you were a Green Beret Seal who won the Medal of Honor.



Damn. Damn Damn Damn. Apparently they bought that it was a tax, Roberts has sided with the left of the Court.


the Medicaid expansion was "limited but not invalidated"





Seriously, you gotta be F'ing kidding me. Obama spent a year and a half swearing up and down that this wasn't a tax, Congressional leadership following in suit.
 
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re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

CNN is showing the mandate was struck down.
 
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Edit: I don't understand how we're getting two opposite breaking news items. Which is accurate?
 
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CNN is showing the mandate was struck down.

:confused: the live blog has a reporter in the room reading the decision....


DrudgeReport also has the mandate being upheld.
 
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Great day for the country. The more people that we have insured the better off we all are.
 
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CNN is showing the mandate was struck down.
NBC just said that it was upheld. Somebody's getting fired.
 
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Well that F'ing does it. I guess I really am going to have to send money to Romney.
 
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Wait, remind me who said the mandate was constitutional because it was the same thing as a tax?

Oh yeah, it was me! :lol:

Looks like the law has been upheld almost in its entirety, though they apparently limited the fed's ability to terminate states' Medicaid funds.

CNN screwed the pooch big time.
 
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CNN is showing the mandate was struck down.

My understanding is that it was redefined as a tax, but it is completely upheld. Medicaid expansion is limited, not sure in which ways.

CNN and MSNBC got it wrong.
 
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Well that F'ing does it. I guess I really am going to have to send money to Romney.

The first guy to sign a mandate into law? Good plan!
 
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:confused: the live blog has a reporter in the room reading the decision....


DrudgeReport also has the mandate being upheld.

There's a little confusion from everyone.

Fox and MSNBC hasn't shown a decision has been made at all.

As I said CNN HAD a banner on the top saying "Mandate struck down" then they backed off and took it down.
 
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Looks like Roberts was the swing vote in this one.
 
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So which is it... As mentioned, CNN shows this:

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Well that F'ing does it. I guess I really am going to have to send money to Romney.

Go ahead and do that. There is absolutely no chance that he is telling you one thing and will act differently. One thing about Romney, when he picks a side, he never changes his mind, lol.
 
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I feel ill. How the **** can Roberts go along with this BS?
 
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Great day for the country. The more people that we have insured the better off we all are.

They're gonna need it, because trust me some of us are not going to take this crap lying down.
 
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It's upheld.

SCOTUS said:
Our precedent demonstrates that Congress had the power to impose the exaction in Section 5000A under the taxing power, and that Section 5000A need not be read to do more than impose a tax. This is sufficient to sustain it.
 
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Politico and Bloomberg also reporting that the mandate was upheld.

Money quote, as reported on scotusblog:

"Our precedent demonstrates that Congress had the power to impose the exaction in Section 5000A under the taxing power, and that Section 5000A need not be read to do more than impose a tax. This is sufficient to sustain it."
 
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There's a little confusion from everyone.

Fox and MSNBC hasn't shown a decision has been made at all.

As I said CNN HAD a banner on the top saying "Mandate struck down" then they backed off and took it down.

They thought the mandate had been sturck down because of the way the decision is written. It's written as "the governement doesn't have the authority.... but since this is a tax...." and they jumped the gun.
 
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Go ahead and do that. There is absolutely no chance that he is telling you one thing and will act differently. One thing about Romney, when he picks a side, he never changes his mind, lol.

:shrug: maybe. But I doubt it. Romney (if elected) wants a second term, not a wholesale abandonment in favor of a third party (or a primary).
 
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Sorry, the supremes got this one 100% wrong. But it is funny that Obamma for so long said it was not a 'tax'.
 
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Woah, wait a minute

...The court reinforces that individuals can simply refuse to pay the tax and not comply with the mandate...
 
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Before Obamacare became law Mr. Obama said the Mandate was not a tax. Then in Court the Govt. attys. argued the Mandate was a tax. The Govt. is thoroughly dishonest and corrupt.
 
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From scotusblog: "The court reinforces that individuals can simply refuse to pay the tax and not comply with the mandate."

Not sure what that means.
 
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