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SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

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Not at all. You have the Conservative 4 : Aliton, Scalia, Thomas and Roberts
The Moderate Four: Breyer, Kagan, Sotomayor and Ginsburg and then you have Kennedy that tends to be the swing vote and sides with both.


Not liberal math at all....just right-winger inability to comprehend.


LOL "moderate" four.


What's a moderate?

Anyone who can't even spell "constitution".
 
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Where are all the Liberals who said this court was a very Conservative court and would be very partisan in their verdict?

It looks like John Roberts has proven us wrong.

I think Justice Roberts is a sly fox

Indeed he is. There's no doubt about that after today's ruling.

and you have not heard the end of this especially if Romney is elected president......

So your last hope is now pinned to the guy who was the architect of the Affordable Care Act. Good luck with that. :lol:
 
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debating giving up my citizenship and moving to Poland. This country is ****ed.

Everyone is free to leave. :shrug:
 
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How do you figure that, since I can almost GUARANTEE that when our Union Contract is up next year the Company I work for is going to do everything in their power to limit or take our health insurance benefit away from us due to the "Cadilac" healthcare provision in this bill?

Oh, I see. You care because it might, and I say might, affect you. You don't really care if it is right or not. Typical conservative!
 
Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

OMG. Positive strides? Cuba is the least democratic Country on earth.

This was about health care, quality. Political form of government wasn't the issue. The two are not the same thing.
 
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FactCheck.org : A Bogus Tax Attack Against Obama

Constantly repeating talking points does not make them good talking points.

Actually I had it exactly right, you misrepresented what Roberts said.

So, upholding the individual mandate under Congress' right to impose a tax doesn't make the individual mandate a tax? Dude, really....are you that desperate? And here I though you a thinker....

btw...that article was in May...previous to SCOTUS' decision.
 
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Then self-defense dictates what happens next.

You know you are embarrassing yourself with this idiotic rhetoric, don't you?
 
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Of course not yet, this just made the decision today But the reason it passed was in the decision by Justice Roberts and paying for it was by a tax.....Read the decision before you comment.
So when do my taxes go up?
 
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debating giving up my citizenship and moving to Poland. This country is ****ed.

As they say ... don't let the door knob hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
 
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This was about health care, quality. Political form of government wasn't the issue. The two are not the same thing.

Right. And Ted Bundy was an awesome gardener.
 
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Right. And Ted Bundy was an awesome gardener.

He may have been. I don't really know. But one thing doesn't speak to other. Michael Jackson could sing, for example, but he may have been a pedophile. Regardless, he could still sing.
 
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No it's not. It definitely is not my country and that's why I just sent an email to the offices of both Massachusetts Senators asking how one goes about renouncing one's US Citizenship.

Don't let the door hit you...well, you know the rest!
 
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OMG! A family of three with the subsidy making $24,352 will have to pay $3,967 per year. That's $330 a month for a family of three making less than $25,000 a year.

Umm no. Try reading that chart again. A family of three earning $24,352 will only pay $731 per year in premiums. $3,967 is the out-of-pocket maximum (i.e. the worst case scenario). And that's a lot better than the UNLIMITED out-of-pocket maximum they have to pay now, if they can't afford to buy insurance at all.

The Democrats losses in November will be such they will walk the political wilderness for at least 3 generations!

:lol:
I *love* watching you guys fume today.
 
Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

Wait for it . . . . . . . . . . .
Ya know, it's funny ... that's the exact same thing righties said to me years ago when I asked, "where are the WMD?"

... I'm still waiting for that too.
 
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FactCheck.org : A Bogus Tax Attack Against Obama

Constantly repeating talking points does not make them good talking points.

Come on Redress read the opinion...That is old news............Since Justice Roberts designated the payment a tax today what was said before does not matter...........Today it is the biggest tax to the middle class in the history of this country.......That is how we will pay for Obamacare on the backs of the middle class..........
 
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April 14th.

Why is that? I already have health insurance for myself and my family.
 
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Umm no. Try reading that chart again. A family of three earning $24,352 will only pay $731 per year in premiums. $3,967 is the out-of-pocket maximum (i.e. the worst case scenario). And that's a lot better than the UNLIMITED out-of-pocket maximum they have to pay now, if they can't afford to buy insurance at all.



:lol:
I *love* watching you guys fume today.

It was certain someone was going to fume today. The real problem was so many thought they knew what the answer would be. I asked a few early on what if they were wrong? Few answered then.
 
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debating giving up my citizenship and moving to Poland. This country is ****ed.

If you're freaking out about the Affordable Care Act, then I suggest that Poland might not be to your liking:

"Poland has a good standard of compulsory state funded healthcare. Medical staff are extremely well trained and healthcare in Poland is available to all citizens and registered long-term residents."
Health in Poland. Healthcare system of Poland
 
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Ya know, it's funny ... that's the exact same thing righties said to me years ago when I asked, "where are the WMD?"

... I'm still waiting for that too.

A whole bunch of your left wing buddies thought there were WMD my Monday Morning QB friend including "Slick Willie" Clinton.........
 
Now that my insurance company has me locked in as a customer, what is it that prevents them from raising their rates?

The last refuge consumers have against monopolistic pricing is that, difficult though it may be, one can technically go without the good or service. But if you have both a monopolistic pricing scenario AND the IRS standing over you telling you to pay, what keeps the insurance companies from jacking their rates further?
 
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