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SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

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Good answer to a different statement, it doesn't seem to work here though.
My statement was "I'm glad you have faith in the word of Insurence Companies".
You do see it makes you look like a clown....oh..... :lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo :peace
clownboy said:
What? How is it my fault Obama bargained away single payer when you weren't looking?
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Cardinal Fang said:
Looks like it was a bad day for whackos. Step ahead for the sane people though, despite the contortions that Legislator-from-the-Bench-in-Chief Roberts had to go thorugh to wind up where he did.
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So in your opinion people who oppose legislating from the bench are insane?

What's insane about not wanting to be chained to an overpriced policy?
 
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AdamT said:
Dude, it is in the bill. :roll:

No one said anything about reduced premiums. It works through tax credits. You obviously don't know what a tax credit is. If you owe no income tax and have a tax credit, you get a check in the amount of the credit from the government. That's the distinction between a credit and a deduction.
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Where does the Federal Government get the money to pay for these "Tax Credits"
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Cons have forgotten that they used to be in favor of disclosure in political contributions, correctly pointing out that it would decrease corruption.....but now WANT no disclosure.
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Right, just like they were against transparency when Bush's documents were subpoened by they're OUTRAGED now.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Cons have forgotten that they used to be in favor of disclosure in political contributions, correctly pointing out that it would decrease corruption.....but now WANT no disclosure.
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Only the ones getting paid under the table. There is a distinction.
 
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I guess Obama can no longer say he didn't increase taxes.
 
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No question this is a victory for Hussein Obama although he says this is not a tax and the SCOTUS says it is.......I believe that anyone who was on the fence on this issure will defintely help Romney and bring independents out in mass to vote for him....People in this country do not want to foot the bill for 40,000,000 people who don't have insurance.....they are having a hard time paying for their own insurance....This ruling could very easily become a death blow in regards to Hussein Obama's reelection......
 
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AdamT said:
Show me where I have ever said it's not. :popcorn2:
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Oh stop....What a lame comeback, you know damned well that liberals scoffed at 'death panels'. But good to see you now admit it.
 
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clownboy said:
You're not getting it, this isn't for families with a good income, the ones who pay taxes. This is for the families that cannot afford insurance. Chances are good if they cannot afford insurance they aren't paying [federal] taxes in the first place. So a tax credit isn't going to help them one bit.
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Every household that has income pays taxes, You keep arguing that there are millions of households without income, it is a false narrative. Every household will have to either buy ins or pay a penalty. Some of it will be subsidized but at a MUCH lower cost than what we have now. Mass has already shown this to be true, premium costs have been reduced, enrollment is up and it is a popular system.
 
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Not I silly man, just an example.....:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo :peace
j-mac said:
You had a miscarriage? How does a guy have a miscarriage?
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Bronson said:
Where does the Federal Government get the money to pay for these "Tax Credits"
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Penalties, fees and taxes.
 
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j-mac said:
Boy did he.....Largest single tax increase in history.
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Do you have a cite for that?

Didn't think so.
 
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j-mac said:
Just following liberal lead.
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What a dumb comment, liberals want disclosure and limits on contributions.
 
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Misterveritis said:
You really do not understand private property do you?

You are entering into a contract with a private company to buy a service they are selling. The service, if this was insurance, would be a transfer of some of your risk to the insurance company in return for a small fee. Instead it is pre-paid health care. And you now have the government telling you that you must buy a government mandated policy with coverage a bureaucrat has decided you must have. And further the government is mandating that a private company must sell you a policy that they have no control over at a price some bureaucrat says they must charge.

There is no more right to private property. We are doomed.
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You are right the HC bill begins to change that antiquated narrow view and replaces it with actual health care. That is what we are paying for HEALTH CARE, not some kind of lottery where we bet on what will go wrong with our health.
 
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jpevans said:

Not I silly man, just an example.....:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo :peace
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I know....Good for a chuckle though....heh heh
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
What a dumb comment, liberals want disclosure and limits on contributions.
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I'll believe that when I see Obama's complete donors list from '08
 
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hazlnut said:
Funny, mine have gone down.
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I thought you didn't contribute when you got Medicaid....heh, heh....
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Every household that has income pays taxes, You keep arguing that there are millions of households without income, it is a false narrative. Every household will have to either buy ins or pay a penalty. Some of it will be subsidized but at a MUCH lower cost than what we have now. Mass has already shown this to be true, premium costs have been reduced, enrollment is up and it is a popular system.
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Health care costs are going up with or without Obamacare. The fact that Obamacare is the law will allow people to see direct causation between Obamacare and increased costs. This can be used as a tremendous wedge issue by riling white seniors.
 
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AdamT said:
Dude, it is in the bill. :roll:

No one said anything about reduced premiums. It works through tax credits. You obviously don't know what a tax credit is. If you owe no income tax and have a tax credit, you get a check in the amount of the credit from the government. That's the distinction between a credit and a deduction.
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OK, you walk into the insurance office and explain that Obama will give you TAX CREDIT money NEXT YEAR if the insurance company will give them FREE insurance now? Just how is that going to work out?
 
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