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Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights'[W:110]

Aunt Spiker said:
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That's funny - Bush did most of those things, as well: waterboarding, unwarrented strikes that killed civilians, spying on citizens via unwarrented phone tapping, etc

So does he condemn Bush, too?
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Not that I'm a Bush Bot but I do like to deal in facts & examples, please provide some here... of course for the most part you cant, except for the waterboarding but please.......

Tell me what is worse, waterboarding where no permanent physical damage is done or just killing the target & not taking prisoners like Obama?

If you are outraged by what Bush did, then you should be equally outraged by Obama, but since you are a Liberal hypocryte & just throw stuff out there without any real thought put into it you wont because in the end you will vote Dem no matter how poorly they perform or how bad there ideas are because your brain has been programmed by the Obama team to do & say exactly as you are even though you have no logical argument to really back it up.
 
Iron Yank said:
Not that I'm a Bush Bot but I do like to deal in facts & examples, please provide some here... of course for the most part you cant, except for the waterboarding but please.......

Tell me what is worse, waterboarding where no permanent physical damage is done or just killing the target & not taking prisoners like Obama?

If you are outraged by what Bush did, then you should be equally outraged by Obama, but since you are a Liberal hypocryte & just throw stuff out there without any real thought put into it you wont because in the end you will vote Dem no matter how poorly they perform or how bad there ideas are because your brain has been programmed by the Obama team to do & say exactly as you are even though you have no logical argument to really back it up.
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The bleeding heart dilemma.
 
Iron Yank said:
Tell me what is worse, waterboarding where no permanent physical damage is done or just killing the target & not taking prisoners like Obama?
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Tell me what's worse, the torture and murder of humans or not torturing and murdering humans?
 
Meathead, it has absolutely nothing to do with this thread whatsoever, but your avatar is making me squirm. I know that the fly is not real, but it looks sooo lifelike that I am having a hard time not flicking at the screen. Damn you.
 
Luna Tick said:
This is a total "well, duh." Of course we're human rights violators of the worst kind. We murder innocent people in Pakistan and Yemen via drone strikes. Then we wonder why al Quaida membership grows. There keep being more America-hating terrorists because we're also terrorists. Think of it this way. What if another nation flew drones in American airspace and one of them shot and killed your mother or your father or your daughter or your son. What would you think of that country? Would you consider such an action an act of war against the United States? Would you consider it an act of terrorism?

I mean, come on. These American terrorist strikes must STOP! It was wrong when the Republicans did them and it's wrong now that Obama's doing them. So with Obama doing something so awful, at least the opposition party is outraged and making an issue of it, right? WRONG! They're up in arms over his helping people to get health care and about the growing debt (when they refuse to let reckless tax cuts expire that would help). Both parties support American terrorism. That's frustrating because it makes it impossible to vote it out.

One more thing. Which presidency would you consider a failure. The one of a principled man who refused to negotiate with terrorists or the one who traded arms for hostages with a terrorist nation? Carter showed backbone to terrorists, but Reagan caved to them.
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Yep. Now America is illegally arming terrorists to destroy Syria.

Remember what a real liberal used to sound like?



At least Kucinich didn't sell out to the war machine like the rest of the Party!
 
It is a testament to some people's intellect that Jimmy Carter pearls of wisdom equate to his time or ours. As Basil Fawltey famously one said, "You might as well ask the cat!".
 
Yeah - preach peace while bombing like Nixon/Cambodia, Reagan/Nicaragua, Bush Sr. Iraq, Dubya/Iraq, and now Obomber and everywhere ...

How brainwashed ARE you Republicans, anyway?
 
Kane said:
Yeah - preach peace while bombing like Nixon/Cambodia, Reagan/Nicaragua, Bush Sr. Iraq, Dubya/Iraq, and now Obomber and everywhere ...

How brainwashed ARE you Republicans, anyway?
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I am certainly not brainwashed to the point where I believe that those who disagree with me must be.

That has little to do with political affiliation.
 
Kane said:
Yeah - preach peace while bombing like Nixon/Cambodia, Reagan/Nicaragua, Bush Sr. Iraq, Dubya/Iraq, and now Obomber and everywhere ...

How brainwashed ARE you Republicans, anyway?
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Don't forget FDR/WWII, Truman/Korea, Eisenhower/Lebanon, JFK/Thailand, LBJ/Vietnam, Nixon/Vietnam, Ford/Cambodia, Clinton/Bosnia... I would have gone further but don't really care enough about this discussion to commit the time.

How brainwashed ARE you Demoblicans, anyway?
 
Nixon LIED about Cambodia, Reagan LIED about not being in the loop about the Contras, Bush Sr. LIED in 1991 about Iraq troops massing on the Saudi border /incubator babies, Dubya LIED about WMD/Saddam connection to 9/11, just like Obomber LIED America is not arming Syrian terrorists

TNAR is so brainwashed he can't see this.
 
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Kane said:
TNAR is so brainwashed he can't see this.
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Let me get this straight, I have the audacity to point out how every president regardless of political party has utilized military forces in aggressive and, as far as I'm concerned, unconstitutional means, and yet I am the one who is brainwashed? Interesting theory...
 
Kane said:
Nixon LIED about Cambodia, Reagan LIED about not being in the loop about the Contras, Bush Sr. LIED in 1991 about Iraq troops massing on the Saudi border /incubator babies, Dubya LIED about WMD/Saddam connection to 9/11, just like Obomber LIED America is not arming Syrian terrorists

TNAR is so brainwashed he can't see this.
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TNAR said:
Let me get this straight, I have the audacity to point out how every president regardless of political party has utilized military forces in aggressive and, as far as I'm concerned, unconstitutional means, and yet I am the one who is brainwashed? Interesting theory...
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Who said anything about WWII or being "Constitutional"?

Carter didn't lie to the country on National TV about U.S. involvement in foreign wars. Thats the difference.

Republicans are always so concerned about appearances, "being tough on the commies" and all that s**t, they forget the whole goddamn war is either illegal, Americas fault in the first place, or just led by a complete fool and a crooked broker - Nixon, Reagan, Bush Sr., or Dubya.
 
Kane said:
Who said anything about WWII or being "Constitutional"?

Carter didn't lie to the country on National TV about U.S. involvement in foreign wars. Thats the difference.

Republicans are always so concerned about appearances, "being tough on the commies" and all that s**t, they forget the whole goddamn war is either illegal, Americas fault in the first place, or just led by a complete fool and a crooked broker - Nixon, Reagan, Bush Sr., or Dubya.
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When you feel resistance, quit pushing the Q-tip
 
Jimmy Carter is a loon. A self-aggradizing loon at that.
 
Goshin said:
Jimmy Carter is a loon. A self-aggradizing loon at that.
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So America has a right to slaughter any nation it chooses?
 
Kane said:
Yep. Now America is illegally arming terrorists to destroy Syria.

Remember what a real liberal used to sound like?



At least Kucinich didn't sell out to the war machine like the rest of the Party!
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Meathead said:
When you feel resistance, quit pushing the Q-tip
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See the guy in the video?

That guy has principles. I'm sure the concept is ALIEN to you.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
So bascially its annoying when you bring up bad stuff our country did and continue to do?
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No, excessive self-righteousness is. To come to your level of indignation has nothing to do with "bringing up bad stuff our country did... is, with repetition, annoying. As are you.
 
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