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The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

The reason the "legals", most of us, can not live on what "illegals" live on is often two fold. One is how long you are used to living in one place, as in establishing a permanent year around home, for yourself and your family or are content to follow the work moving several times per year. The other is what you have in mind as a decent standard of living. If you come from a place with no aversion to trashing the environment, roadside dumping and living three, or more people, to a room, then you can live quite cheaply, if you are happy to share a vehicle and living space with virtual strangers. For low skilled labor, employers see only the need to get the work done, and could really care less how you must live or even how you behave off the job, so illegal labor is only seen as a plus (since the bosses don't need to live next to the help) as the wages/benefits offered can be far less.


So the real answer is ultimately "Because the 'legals' don't want to do that which would be necessary in order to live on the same wages as an illegal".

It really comes down to what legals are unwilling to put up with, not that the wage isn't a livable one. It's the conveniences that they don't want to give up.
 
The hard left democrats were swept out of all state offices that matter. The legislature is now in the hands of the Republicans some of whom are conservatives.

You just go right on believing you are an expert in Alabama politics. I think it is kinda cute.
:lamo Doesn't take an expert to see that water is wet or the sky is blue.
Alabama and the rest of The South have never been liberal regardless of the letter behind their politician's names. Talking about "hard left democrats" in Alabama, except as a small minority, is blatant propaganda that no one is buying.
 
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We are heading the right direction now that the Democrats have been swept out of office.
California has no future. It is sad really.
Your continued propaganda for and loyalty to Alabama is most entertaining. Are you running for office or just amassing contributions to pay off your Republican friends for favors owed? LOL!
 
:lamo Doesn't take an expert to see that water is wet or the sky is blue.
Alabama and the rest of The South have never been liberal regardless of the letter behind their politician's names. Talking about "hard left democrats" in Alabama, except as a small minority, is blatant propaganda that no one is buying.
The hard left democrats did what all leftists do. They unholy alliance between democrat politicians and public sector unions occurs everywhere. In my state the people may be more wary of liberal, cradle-to-grave, socialist programs but that has very little to do with the damage done in my state.

That has ended. After 136 years the one-party rule has switched parties. Choose not to buy if if that is your wish. The case remains that hard left democrats prevented the state from working to solve the illegal alien problem. Under Republicans we have taken a major step toward eliminating one of the problem. It is the same for other problems that the democrats preferred to exploit instead of solve.
 
Your continued propaganda for and loyalty to Alabama is most entertaining. Are you running for office or just amassing contributions to pay off your Republican friends for favors owed? LOL!
I don't know how to answer this. We have many bright days ahead of us in my state. Your state is depopulating is it not? If it were not for all of the illegal aliens wouldn't you have a major population decline?
 
That has ended. After 136 years the one-party rule has switched parties. Choose not to buy if if that is your wish. The case remains that hard left democrats prevented the state from working to solve the illegal alien problem. Under Republicans we have taken a major step toward eliminating one of the problem.
... because states like Texas are such liberal hotbeds! :lamo
 
I don't know how to answer this. We have many bright days ahead of us in my state. Your state is depopulating is it not? If it were not for all of the illegal aliens wouldn't you have a major population decline?
I wouldn't know. I have this odd ideal of a United States of America so all this individual wrangling to me is just pride - one of the Seven Deadly Sins. But, hey, everyone has a right to make their own personal hell in which to wallow.




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I don't put much stock in anything less than a decade long trend for population movement, business movement, etc. Socio-economic conditions change so quickly it's hard to use anything less as a viable baseline. May as well use the score at the end of the third quarter to tell who won the game as to use even a 5 year record across something as big as a state - too many variables. Only propagandists use numbers like that.
 
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I wouldn't know. I have this odd ideal of a United States of America so all this individual wrangling to me is just pride - one of the Seven Deadly Sins. But, hey, everyone has a right to make their own personal hell in which to wallow.

Ed:
I don't put much stock in anything less than a decade long trend for population movement, business movement, etc. Socio-economic conditions change so quickly it's hard to use anything less as a viable baseline. May as well use the score at the end of the third quarter to tell who won the game as to use even a 5 year record across something as big as a state - too many variables. Only propagandists use numbers like that.
In other words, yes, your state is depopulating as people run away from run amok liberalism.

Thank you for your clear, concise answer.
 
The court left standing only the "check your papers" part of the law that requires state and local police to perform roadside immigration checks of people they've stopped or detained if a "reasonable suspicion" exists they are in the country illegally.

The court indicated that that would face further scrutiny.

The court rejected the parts of the law that making it a state crime for illegal immigrants not to possess their federal registration cards; for illegal imigrants to work, apply for work or solicit work; and a section that allowed state and local police to arrest illegal immigrants without a warrant when probable cause exists that they committed "any public offense that makes the person removable from the United States."

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Not surprising at all. Look at Mexico. The more and more of them that come here ... the uneducated ones without valuable skills that is, the closer our country will look like theirs. Its so blazingly obvious, you have to wonder what kind of mental disorder people have that want to invite them all in with open arms. ... We can easily solve our illegal immigration problem by cracking down on the companies who hire them. They come here for jobs so they can work and send money back to their relatives who live in Mexico. If there are no jobs for them they will gladly return to Mexico where they belong. The Democrats want desperately to keep them here so they can vote and appoint more liberal politicans to Congress.
 
In other words, yes, your state is depopulating as people run away from run amok liberalism.

Thank you for your clear, concise answer.
Run amok liberalism in Missouri??? That's gets you 3/3 on the laugh meter!

:lamo :lamo :lamo
 
In other words, yes, your state is depopulating as people run away from run amok liberalism.

Thank you for your clear, concise answer.

Weird ... it seems that the great rising start of America -- Alabama (lol) -- had the biggest increase in unemployment of any state last month, going from 7.4% to 7.8%. I guess those Republicans are finally making their presence felt.
 
The court left standing only the "check your papers" part of the law that requires state and local police to perform roadside immigration checks of people they've stopped or detained if a "reasonable suspicion" exists they are in the country illegally.

The court indicated that that would face further scrutiny.

The court rejected the parts of the law that making it a state crime for illegal immigrants not to possess their federal registration cards; for illegal imigrants to work, apply for work or solicit work; and a section that allowed state and local police to arrest illegal immigrants without a warrant when probable cause exists that they committed "any public offense that makes the person removable from the United States."

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Not surprising at all. Look at Mexico. The more and more of them that come here ... the uneducated ones without valuable skills that is, the closer our country will look like theirs. Its so blazingly obvious, you have to wonder what kind of mental disorder people have that want to invite them all in with open arms. ... We can easily solve our illegal immigration problem by cracking down on the companies who hire them. They come here for jobs so they can work and send money back to their relatives who live in Mexico. If there are no jobs for them they will gladly return to Mexico where they belong. The Democrats want desperately to keep them here so they can vote and appoint more liberal politicans to Congress.


The anti-illegals movement should learn to read sources other than the local Stormfront/Breitbart/Beck/FauxNews outlets

Home again in Mexico: Illegal immigration hits net zero
One million Mexicans said they returned from the US between 2005 and 2010, according to a new demographic study of Mexican census data. That's three times the number who said they'd returned in the previous five-year period.

And they aren't just home for a visit: One prominent sociologist in the US has counted "net zero" migration for the first time since the 1960s.


The last sentence in the rightie quote is just another belief tightly held by a segment of the population. A "belief" as opposed to a "fact" because it has zero support in the real world.
 
Weird ... it seems that the great rising start of America -- Alabama (lol) -- had the biggest increase in unemployment of any state last month, going from 7.4% to 7.8%. I guess those Republicans are finally making their presence felt.
That was your headline. Now what is the truth?

"Just as with last month, we are experiencing an expected, seasonal increase in the labor force," said Surtees. "People looking for summer work as well as teachers and education employees who are not working over the summer are entering the job market. Since the unemployment rate is simply the percentage of people in the labor force who are not working, this increase will inevitably raise the unemployment rate."

Although the unemployment rate did increase, unemployment claims continue to fall. Initial unemployment compensation claims are down by 20% from a year ago, and the amount paid in claims is down by 21.5%.

Alabama's online jobs database, www.joblink.alabama.gov, is consistently registering more jobs than at any time in the site's history, even eclipsing the spikes created by temporary jobs following the Gulf Oil Spill in 2010 and the April 2011 tornadoes. In June, JobLink saw a record breaking 15,690 jobs available.​

Alabama's unemployment rate up slightly from June

You cannot be trusted.
 
That was your headline. Now what is the truth?

"Just as with last month, we are experiencing an expected, seasonal increase in the labor force," said Surtees. "People looking for summer work as well as teachers and education employees who are not working over the summer are entering the job market. Since the unemployment rate is simply the percentage of people in the labor force who are not working, this increase will inevitably raise the unemployment rate."

Although the unemployment rate did increase, unemployment claims continue to fall. Initial unemployment compensation claims are down by 20% from a year ago, and the amount paid in claims is down by 21.5%.

Alabama's online jobs database, www.joblink.alabama.gov, is consistently registering more jobs than at any time in the site's history, even eclipsing the spikes created by temporary jobs following the Gulf Oil Spill in 2010 and the April 2011 tornadoes. In June, JobLink saw a record breaking 15,690 jobs available.​

Alabama's unemployment rate up slightly from June

You cannot be trusted.

Um, Bama -- every state has seasonal variation.
 
Um, Bama -- every state has seasonal variation.
And go on. Read the rest. I know you can.
Unemployment compensation claims are down by 20% from one year ago.

And....almost 16k new jobs were posted in June. We have another car company opening shop here. Things are looking up.
 
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