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Reminds of people I knew growing up up who said they couldn't be racist because they had friends who were black. This doesn't change what you do regularly here.
What I do here is decry the destructive effects of public sector unions. You seem to lack the intellectual capacity or honesty to admit that that is not the same thing as "Denigrating teachers". :roll:
Don't miss at all. It isn't unions who are lazy or incompetent.
No. It is unions that protect and promote the lazy and incompetent.
And the flip side of your complaint is that without unions, good competent teachers would have no protection.
No more protection than any other knowledge worker. Me, for example. In fact, they would have significantly more protection than me - their boss can't throw them into jail, after all. Without unions, however, good competent teachers would be in high demand. Schools would be able to compete for good, competent teachers. The people who would have no protection are the ones who shouldn't have any.
And yes, this happens. Personalities get in the way sometimes and good teachers lose jobs where there are not unions.
I note you fail to cite the example I gave you where good teachers lost their jobs and poor ones kept them because there are unions.
I can't find your voice there. You take a small, small percentage, misrepresent the problem, and in doing so demonize teachers. It is what you do on a regular basis.
why do you hate our men and women in uniform?
oh, sure, you will claim to have served yourself, to have many friends who are
do you see how stupid your claim sounds?
Again they need to?
Allow me to re-quote with some emphasis, please pay attention to the pronouns:
cpwill said:If you want teachers to get respect and pay, then we need to start ensuring that we get good teachers who will deserve it. The way to do that is through judging and rewarding by merit, so that our society's high-performers are attracted to the field. Good luck getting that past the unions.
I thought you taught English, of all things?
And what is merit?
Effective teaching. Fitness reports. Competitive ranking. Objective and subjective scoring of objective and subjective measurables. Demonstration of effect on students. Demonstration of capabilities. If I can be graded and ranked against thousands of other Sgts' in the Marine Corps spread across all continents save Antartica doing widely disparate jobs under complex and widely disparate conditions, I have small sympathy for low-productive teachers telling me it's not fair to expect them to get graded. The good teachers want to be rewarded for their effort, talent, and results.
If you want to measure their knowledge, their classroom performance, measurable things they control, few will argue with you.
Well it's good to see you've converted.