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Texas Dad Beats Daughter's Molester to Death: Cops

RadicalModerate said:
Perhaps I should have read the article, lol.

I had the wrong impression of the story. While I certainly don't think what he did was right in terms of how we deal with criminals, his remorse and the scenario was different from what I had in mind, so I'll change my opinion to wrong but unintended.
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Is self-defense wrong if it results in a death? Regardless of the circumstances?
 
Dragonfly said:
Is self-defense wrong if it results in a death? Regardless of the circumstances?
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If the man punched the molester 500 times in the head till his was was pink mush and then set his body on fire, that's excessive. You want a one-size-fits all answer from me; I don't give those.

What's excessive depends on the situation. In this case, I thought the man found the molester and beat him to death out of ANGER.
 
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But you also said what the father did was wrong.

How's it wrong? He protected his daughter in an immediate and decisive fashion.

I see nothing wrong with the scenario at all.
 
RadicalModerate said:
If the man punched the molester 500 times in the head till his was was pink mush and then set his body on fire, that's excessive. You want a one-size-fits all answer from me; I don't give those.

What's excessive depends on the situation. In this case, I thought the man found the molester and beat him to death out of ANGER.
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I see nothing wrong with either one of those choices.
 
Dragonfly said:
Is self-defense wrong if it results in a death? Regardless of the circumstances?
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Actually, in TX anyway, self defense which results in a death could land you behind bars depending upon circumstances.
Example, if your engaged in criminal activity, say a drug deal, and someone pulled a knife on you, and you pulled a gun
and shot them dead, you'd most likely serve some time. Use of deadly force must fit neatly into a box to be justified.
 
Dragonfly said:
But you also said what the father did was wrong.

How's it wrong? He protected his daughter in an immediate and decisive fashion.

I see nothing wrong with the scenario at all.
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Quit being obtuse. I already admitted I hadn't read the article and thought that the beating was done out of anger and revenge, not an accidental death in the middle of stopping a molestation.
 
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Sphere said:
Actually, in TX anyway, self defense which results in a death could land you behind bars depending upon circumstances.
Example, if your engaged in criminal activity, say a drug deal, and someone pulled a knife on you, and you pulled a gun
and shot them dead, you'd most likely serve some time. Use of deadly force must fit neatly into a box to be justified.
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You see that as an apples-to-apples comparison?????
 
RadicalModerate said:
Perhaps I should have read the article, lol.

I had the wrong impression of the story. While I certainly don't think what he did was right in terms of how we deal with criminals, his remorse and the scenario was different from what I had in mind, so I'll change my opinion to wrong but unintended.
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Read the last 8 words of your own post.
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

Aderleth said:
This is a tricky situation. On the one hand, I'd probably do the same thing. On the other, people should be accountable for their actions. This guy killed someone, and he probably ought to be charged. That kind of sucks, but it's probably what should happen.
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He killed a scum wad child abuser. For that he should get a medal.
 
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RadicalModerate said:
Right, right, I forgot. All self-defense claims HAVE to result in the death of another.
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No they don't. But not all self defense homicides are intentional.
 
sharon said:
Its now being called a homicide.
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One man killed another. That is, by definition, homicide. Homicide is not necessarily a criminal offense.
 
By my understanding, this guy, the molester, simply couldn't take a punch. Right? I mean, honestly...at MOST, the dad should get charged with assault and battery, TOPS.
 
mac said:
One man killed another. That is, by definition, homicide. Homicide is not necessarily a criminal offense.
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Right. That's why executions, war, and self defense are called "justifiable homicide."
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

RadicalModerate said:
Kicking him in the face to stop the action and then sitting on him while someone else at the party call 911? Tackle him and hog tie him? Pimp slap him and lock him in the bathroom? THere are countless option that don't include beating someone to death, you want all of them?
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That's placing the unreasonable expectation that someone who walks in on such a situation is able to think clearly when they respond.

Very, very few fathers are going to be capable of thinking clearly in such a situation.
 
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All's well that ends well, especially if Lavaca County continues to protect the identity of the young victim and her father.
 
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Headline
"No charges for Texas father who killed daughter's alleged molester"

So where is the OUTRAGE of a white killing a unarmed minority? (sarcastic)
Where are the marches supporting a child molester with skittles and a hoodie?? (made up facts in this case and just as irrelivant)

it is so sad for the bleeding hearts when you look at the big picture and all self defence cases.........

full story
No charges for Texas father who killed daughter's alleged molester - U.S. News
 
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Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

sharon said:
Do you really think the father made the right call?

I can absolutely understand him beating the stuffing out of the guy, but NOT beating him to death.

Did the 4 year old witness this?
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Of course you can't understand why sick evil disgusting criminals shouldn't be killed while performing a sick crime. It's because the only people ALL you LIBERALS want to kill is babies with their support for abortion instead of real evil people.
 
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Sparky said:
Of course you can't understand why sick evil disgusting criminals shouldn't be killed while performing a sick crime. It's because the only people ALL you LIBERALS want to kill is babies with their support for abortion instead of real evil people.
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Yes we all hate children. That explains why I drained my savings to adopt 2 of them from Russia.

This is what happens when somebody listens to whacked out talk radio and believes every word of it.
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

RadicalModerate said:
Understandable actions, but still not acceptable. We do not use vigilante justice in the US.
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That's right. You Liberals only kill babies... not criminals raping 4 year old children.
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

sharon said:
Do you really think the father made the right call?

I can absolutely understand him beating the stuffing out of the guy, but NOT beating him to death.

Did the 4 year old witness this?
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Truthfully Sharon, I don't know that he intended to kill the guy, or if it just happened. Personally, I don't care. Dude beat a guy who was raping his daughter. I'm OK with that.

If the events occured as stated, the child probably did witness it. She's going to need a lot of therapy for sure.
 
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