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Texas Dad Beats Daughter's Molester to Death: Cops

Sounds like suicide to me.
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

I don't see this guy going to jail for this. Even assuming that they charge him, which is a highly unlikely probability to start with, there is very little way a DA will be able to get a jury without at least one person that would sympathize with the guy and say "not guilty".

I think it would really be a sad day and would see much publicity if this guy was convicted of anything for this incident. (Like others have said, this definitely assumes the facts of the case are as straight forward as they are presented here.)
 
Another monster removed from the world. The father performed a public service for everyone.
 
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That's the baseline, yes, but it doesn't necessarily cover what this guy did. Once he got to the point where his daughter is no longer in physical danger he didn't really have any legally defensible right to continue to beat the guy. Don't get me wrong, the guy deserved a beating, but it wasn't necessarily lawful.

Oh quit the bull**** - what was he suppose to do, legitimately? What would you have done? Pull him away from her and say 'hey man, that's enough. . . ' - or 'hey dude - maybe later' like it's some casual unimportant awkward situation like walking in on two teens screwing in the bedroom when they think you're asleep? :roll:

It is NOT the Dad's fault this **** was a twisted disgusting freak and tried to violate his little child and couldn't take a few hits to the head in reponse. Why are you expecting the Dad to have been the one to tone-down and not over-react when this twisted ass was the one with the perverse and vile intentions to begin with? I wish my Dad would have been my hero like that.

From the sound of things; the Dad is actually torn between his feelings = he didn't MEAN to kill him. In his mind and heart he was protecting his daughter with immediate and understandable RAGE. Not his fault this douch couldn't handle what he had coming to him.

I'm sure it only lasted a very short while. . . in that rage-zone I don't imagine anyone would be capable of THINKING. . . don't pretend otherwise. . . any effort to create an 'other' scenario is stupid.

I think it's obvious you and maybe others haven't *been* in such a situation; the though process isn't 'oh - he's trying to molest my daughter' - the WORSE case scenario is what presents itself . . . "he's trying to KILL HER" is probably more along the lines of what he was realy thinking or feeling. . . and anyone who denies that this isn't how someone who *is* being attacked or who *sees* someone else being attacked or groped just hasn't been in the situation and experienced it.

When I was a child being molested I remember thinking and wondering if EVERY TIME if they were going to kill me - and if that would be a bad thing. . . I was 5. It's obvious you have no clue what the thought process is for the victim - at least she HAD someone to save her. Most kids don't even have anyone who will give a damn. . . and you have the nerve - not just you, others too, to expect him to maintain some sort of logical reasoning?

**** logic = logic dictated to my ****ing parents that since we were al good Christian Protestants that no one would ever dare do that to any of us children :roll:

Anyway - I just wish people would expect someone to somehow trump nature when it comes to the safety and wellbeing of hteir children. I do not - never will - expect that. If your child is in danger nature's most inate function kicks in full-gear . . . punish HIM for protecting HER - ****ing crazy. That's some middle eastern ****.
 
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Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

He was entitled to use whatever force was needed to neutralize the attacker. He was not entitled to kill him out of anger or revenge. Now considering the circumstances, it is reasonable to give him a fair amount of leeway and I doubt the Father will be convicted of a crime. The point is that you don't get to throw out the law and start killing people just because child molestors are involved.
 
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Jury Nullification was made for this kind of thing.
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

He was entitled to use whatever force was needed to neutralize the attacker. He was not entitled to kill him out of anger or revenge. Now considering the circumstances, it is reasonable to give him a fair amount of leeway and I doubt the Father will be convicted of a crime. The point is that you don't get to throw out the law and start killing people just because child molestors are involved.

If it is your child, and/or you are stopping the commission of a violent crime, yes you do.
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

That's the baseline, yes, but it doesn't necessarily cover what this guy did. Once he got to the point where his daughter is no longer in physical danger he didn't really have any legally defensible right to continue to beat the guy. Don't get me wrong, the guy deserved a beating, but it wasn't necessarily lawful.

Yes, he should have tapped the man lightly on the shoulder and presented him with some applicable literature on the subject.

Right after apologizing for the intrusion, mind you.
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

He was entitled to use whatever force was needed to neutralize the attacker. He was not entitled to kill him out of anger or revenge. Now considering the circumstances, it is reasonable to give him a fair amount of leeway and I doubt the Father will be convicted of a crime. The point is that you don't get to throw out the law and start killing people just because child molestors are involved.

INTENT is not there.

Punishing him would only punish the child by taking away her father . . . he has an immense amount of guilt for killing him, I'm sure - and likely *having* the guilt even though the man was molesting his daughter is probably a layer of punishment that he shouldn't even have to endure. He's probably extremely emotionally conflicted - and I pray to god she's not conflicted, too, and somehow feeling she did something wrong.

This scums loss of life isn't worth tearing this entire family apart *even more* than they are already torn. I think enough tragedy has happened over one man's perverted fixation on this child . . . and she should be allowed to now have a normal, healthy, happy childhood . . . you cannot have a normal, happy, healthy childhood when your father goes to jail for protecting you. What kind of a message would that send? Is that the message this child NEEDS to receive?

No - it's not.

Now - let's all walk away form this; and hope and pray we'll never EVER have to go through what they have gone through. Let's pray she doesnt' suffer more than she already has over this.
 
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Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

He was entitled to use whatever force was needed to neutralize the attacker. He was not entitled to kill him out of anger or revenge. Now considering the circumstances, it is reasonable to give him a fair amount of leeway and I doubt the Father will be convicted of a crime. The point is that you don't get to throw out the law and start killing people just because child molestors are involved.

You can use lethal force to stop a sexual assault.The child molester was sexually assaulting the little girl.The girl's father used lethal force to stop that child molester.
 
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You can use lethal force to stop a sexual assault.The child molester was sexually assaulting the little girl.The girl's father used lethal force to stop that child molester.

Indeed! She couldn't protect herself.

If this was a rape-scenario (which has happened) and the victim killed the attacker (which has happened) no one would be expecting her to go to jail. . . I remember quite clearly; the scenario with the older woman shooting someone who was attacking her - he got a few steps outside her house and died . . . everyone praised her for taking him out.

Or the mother who shot the **** who broke into her house and came after her and her child - shot him dead. SELF PROTECTION.

Just because it's your child doesn't mean you don't have the right to PROTECT them the same way. The suggestion that you do NOT have the right is INSANE.

The dude's lucky the Dad didn't go after him with a knife - or brass knuckles - or a gun - or in my house: a metal baseball bat.

yep: I'd bash in someone's brains without a 2nd thought if someone was doing that to any of my kids . . . damn straight. Any DECENT parent would do no less.
 
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It's hard to fault him. But at the same time, if you go to prison for killing the abuser, you can't be involved with your child's healing process personally or on a daily basis. I think it's normal for a parent to want to harm somebody whom harms their child. But when the parent is in prison, I think it's equally normal that they wish they weren't there. They probably wish they were with their child protecting them or even calming them down at 2 am when they have nightmares.

No jury in Texas would convict this man. In fact, I doubt any jury in the South would.
 
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If it is your child, and/or you are stopping the commission of a violent crime, yes you do.

As I said earlier in the thread, I don't think I'd be thinking--I'd be reacting. If ever there were a crime of passion...!
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

As I said earlier in the thread, I don't think I'd be thinking--I'd be reacting. If ever there were a crime of passion...!

Yes. There is a reason we have protective instincts for our young, and they should be acted upon without prejudice.
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

Update****

A father who beat a man to death after catching him molesting his four-year-old daughter in a barn will likely not face charges.
The man - whose name has not been released to protect his daughter - allegedly pulled the attacker off his child after discovering them in a barn in Lavaca County, Texas and then beat the man over the head.
Authorities said he expressed regret at the killing, and no evidence so far has led them to doubt his story. The girl's grandfather agreed it had been an accident


Read more: Lavaca County killing: Father 'who beat man molesting his daughter, 4, to death' unlikely to be charged | Mail Online

He is not likely to be charged. He pulled the man off his daughter while in the act, which makes a big difference from suddenly finding out and then hunting him down.
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

The 47-year-old arrived with several others. It is not known if the father or daughter knew him.

The girl was then heard screaming a short time later and when her father went to see what was wrong, he saw the man sexually assaulting her.

When he pulled him off her, he allegedly hit him several times over the head.

No arrests have been made in the case. A grand jury will determine what, if any charges will be filed, Harmon said.


Read more: Lavaca County killing: Father 'who beat man molesting his daughter, 4, to death' unlikely to be charged | Mail Online

I feel so awful for the daughter. I think the trauma would be a lot and I think seeing her father kill the attacker could possibly add more trauma. Had he survived and she had to talk to police or go to an advocacy center and seen a trial, it would have also been difficult on her. It's hard to say if the actual outcome was better or worse for her. It's so difficult to understand how a child interprets and feels about what happened to them, because they are so young and their communication skills are not fully developed.
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

Too bad that all child molestations as they happen couldn't be caught in the act. There would be no need for a registry if that dream could only come true.

As with all the others here. Wouldn't think twice about taking out anyone, male or female for sexually abusing my children, PERIOD!


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Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

Jury Nullification was made for this kind of thing.

Exactly. I don't care about his legal rights here. My opinion is that he was morally justified. I would do the same thing.

Good luck convincing 12 people that he did something wrong...
 
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I feel so awful for the daughter. I think the trauma would be a lot and I think seeing her father kill the attacker could possibly add more trauma. Had he survived and she had to talk to police or go to an advocacy center and seen a trial, it would have also been difficult on her. It's hard to say if the actual outcome was better or worse for her. It's so difficult to understand how a child interprets and feels about what happened to them, because they are so young and their communication skills are not fully developed.

I definitely feel for the girl. She'll be in therapy for years without a doubt.
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

he should plead temporary insanity. I would go along with it as a juror.
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

Exactly. I don't care about his legal rights here. My opinion is that he was morally justified. I would do the same thing.

Good luck convincing 12 people that he did something wrong...

Morally doesn't mean **** here

Theres a fine line.....Once the threat has stopped, you must stop

You cannot continue to beat down the individual once, the individual is no longer a threat
 
Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

No jury in Texas would convict this man. In fact, I doubt any jury in the South would.

No jury, North or South would convict him. This is one of those issues Conservatives and Liberals often agree 100% on.
 
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