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French troop pullout from Afghanistan to start in July

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The confirmation of the timetable comes hours after four French soldiers were killed and five others wounded.The Taliban said one of their suicide bombers carried out the attack on a Nato convoy in Kapisa province.
Withdrawing French troops by the end of 2012 had been one of Mr Hollande's election pledges.
The date means that French forces will leave the country two years before the main Nato pullout.
Violence has risen across the country in recent weeks, with the Taliban targeting both the Afghan forces and the 130,000 foreign troops remaining in the country.



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Now thats how you pull out America. Take some notes.

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France is running, wow, so what's the news?

Well, 11 years later why are any of us still there? It's time for all of us to leave. Besides, it's only France. One only has to look at their activity in Afghanistan and their casuality list in comparison to our truer allies to see how little France's absence is going to be felt. They boldly and pompously criticized our efforts to remove Saddam Hussein from Iraq even though they were among the first to rush an embassy into Baghdad after the deed was done. They criticized America for not doing enough in Libya even after leading the air campaign before handing it over to NATO "leadership" (when most of the bombing had ceased). So is France really dissapointing anybody? France is France.
 
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Obviously, this is a decision that is fully within the control of the new French President. He's implementing it to demonstrate credibility with regard to his campaign promises. A much more difficult task lies ahead on an assortment of other issues that are not fully or even largely under the control of the French President.

There would have been few benefits for France in prolonging its participation. First, Afghanistan continues to muddle along under an inherently flawed strategy that is Kabul- and Karzai-centric. The marginal benefits of continued participation are likely minimal, at best, for France. Second, it is likely that NATO's calculations took into consideration the probability of a French pullout in 2012. Third, French domestic opinion has been against open-ended French participation and, in part, the change in leadership reflected domestic sentiment on that issue. Keep in mind, that this description is based on France's national interest, as all nations ultimately act in their national interest, not for altruistic reasons that are divorced from their interests. Needless to say, this decision is not wholly consistent with U.S. interests, as it amplifies the difficulties of U.S. forces in Afghanistan albeit for a temporary period, given NATO's adopted timeline. Nevertheless, this decision does not take away from the reality that France made a valuable contribution to U.S. interests in its participation in Afghanistan.
 
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Read more @: BBC News - French troop pullout from Afghanistan to start in July

Now thats how you pull out America. Take some notes.

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And,

Australia also making plans to withdraw:
Australia set to withdraw troops early from Afghanistan

Canadian forces leave Afghanistan as mission ends


NATO's Pull Out of Afghanistan

"NATO's Chicago summit seems to have put the organization's pull out of Afghanistan onto a shorter timeline. The mission in Afghanistan is a losing battle. The country is a tough nut to crack. NATO and the US is the third military superpower that could not handle an occupation of Afghanistan. First there was the British Imperial Army in the 19th century, then the Soviet Army in the 1980s, and now the American led NATO mission which have all failed to effectively control the country. It is no surprise that many US allies are planning to pull out of the country as soon as possible. France and Canada has recently announced that they plan on pulling out by the end of 2012, and Obama himself has shortened the US mission to end by December 31st 2013 instead of 2014."

NATO's Pull Out of Afghanistan
 
the Taliban have been taken out of power , Bin laden is dead and gone, Al Queada is an international joke..... time to come on home and watch liberals declare defeat.

I don't care what the French do...go, stay, whatever.
 
the Taliban have been taken out of power , Bin laden is dead and gone, Al Queada is an international joke..... time to come on home and watch liberals declare defeat.

I don't care what the French do...go, stay, whatever.

We have a corrupt puppet head in power elected via electoral fraud, nepotism, majority of Afghans dont support the gov, Taliban still a fighting force.
Mission complete?
 
We have a corrupt puppet head in power elected via electoral fraud, nepotism, majority of Afghans dont support the gov, Taliban still a fighting force.
Mission complete?

complete enough for me.... but if you wish, you can always petition Obama to stay longer.
 
complete enough for me.... but if you wish, you can always petition Obama to stay longer.

Or how about we leave cuz this place is just about to impossible "to fix".
 
We have a corrupt puppet head in power elected via electoral fraud, nepotism, majority of Afghans dont support the gov, Taliban still a fighting force.
Mission complete?

As complete as it will ever be before we run out of money trying to win the hearts and minds of a people who would side with Pakistan in a showdown with them. That didn't work in Vietnam and its not working in Afghanistan.
 
Or how about we leave cuz this place is just about to impossible "to fix".

it's not impossible to fix.. but most of what needs to be fixed , needs to be fixed by afghans.

they are on the right road, but it will be a long time before they join modern civilization... or they can revert back to being world class human rights abusers... only time will tell.
 
or Obama....

Romney has said Obama's withdrawal date is too soon. Same thing he said about Obama's withdrawal of the troops from Iraq last year.
 
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Romney has said Obama's withdrawal date is too soon. Same thing he said about Obama's withdrawal of the troops from Iraq last year.

yeah.. he, like DemSoc thinks there are still serious problems that need handling... he's just willing to try and take on those problems.

I was only willing to bring extreme pain and suffering to the Taliban and it's supporters... preferably through select leadership assassinations... maybe a tomahawk or 2 into a few government HQ windows.

same with Iraq... assassinate the bathists regime leaders .. and bam.. done...out

should have elected me... a couple of weeks and it would have been over and done.
 
yeah.. he, like DemSoc thinks there are still serious problems that need handling... he's just willing to try and take on those problems.

I was only willing to bring extreme pain and suffering to the Taliban and it's supporters... preferably through select leadership assassinations... maybe a tomahawk or 2 into a few government HQ windows.

same with Iraq... assassinate the bathists regime leaders .. and bam.. done...out

should have elected me... a couple of weeks and it would have been over and done.


I am sure big oil would be appreciative!
 
well then, we can't have that... a protracted and costly war it is!.... glad you set me straight there.

what would have been your response?

That we leave as quickly as its physically possible to get the troops out of there, that's why I am voting for the viable candidate with the quickest withdrawal schedule.
 
That we leave as quickly as its physically possible to get the troops out of there, that's why I am voting for the viable candidate with the quickest withdrawal schedule.

ahhh, so you would have invaded Afghanistan just as Bush did and put us into a protracted and costly war with little or no strategic value.


big oil appreciates you!
 
ahhh, so you would have invaded Afghanistan just as Bush did and put us into a protracted and costly war with little or no strategic value.


big oil appreciates you!

No, I would not have invaded and occupied a country that neither attacked us, or were of any military threat to us. Same with Vietnam and Iraq.
 
Or how about we leave cuz this place is just about to impossible "to fix".
Or how about we leave cuz this place is just about to impossible "to fix".[/QUOTE]Thats the problem. There never should have been a 'fix' attempt. Bush made the same mistake in Afghanistan that he made in Iraq. The 'war' for both ended in a few short months. The enemy...the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein in Iraq were ousted, the people were given an opportunity to elect leadership, and we should have given both countries finite timetables and pulled out a long time ago. The success or failure of their country does not depend on anyone but themselves.

We are currently a rudderless ship in Afghanistan. The soldiers dont know what their mission is. The next wave is about to rotate in and are already asking...what is our mission directive? Our biggest enemy in the country is not the Taliban...them we can fight. No...the biggest enemy in Afghanistan and threat to our military's security there is Kharzai himself. He has spent the last few years denigrating our troops and our presence and he wastes no opportunity to slam the soldiers there fighting and dying for his country.

We should have been done there a long time ago. Another day...another life...for those miserable assholes...sorry...just not worth it.
 
No, I would not have invaded and occupied a country that neither attacked us, or were of any military threat to us. Same with Vietnam and Iraq.

ok.. so you would exit as fast as physically possible a country you didn't invade.... mmmmk :lol:

alright, you've told us what you wouldn't do... now tell us what you would do.

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ok.. so you would exit as fast as physically possible a country you didn't invade.... mmmmk :lol:

Don't know if you noticed, but they didn't do what I would have done. They invaded and occupied Afghanistan.

alright, you've told us what you wouldn't do... now tell us what you would do.

o

About what?
 
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