Boo Radley
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Okay, whose law are you referring to?
Due process
Torture
The war itself breaking agreements we signed.
Okay, whose law are you referring to?
Due process
Torture
The war itself breaking agreements we signed.
Enemy terrorists require due process? When did the Supreme Court decide this?
Which agreements with which countries are you referring to?
Enemy terrorists require due process? When did the Supreme Court decide this?
Which agreements with which countries are you referring to?
Great, this is where Joe gets to derail the entire thread launching off on an argument he has been losing soundly since his days as JD3.
j-mac
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Why should we close Gitmo?
And some want to move those prisoners to mainland USA?
I can't believe real Americans would stand for having POWs on US soil.
Why should we close Gitmo?
And some want to move those prisoners to mainland USA?
I can't believe real Americans would stand for having POWs on US soil.
I've linked what happened. Why are you pretending this hasn't been answered. He signed the order, republicans started fear mongering and congress caved. That is what happened, you have been answered.
And, not, the war never has smelled good. But Obama could never change what Bush did. Bush's action are not erased once someone else takes over, and it is disingenuous to pretend otherwise.
And yes, he broke laws. He used torture. That allow was enough to hinder him in a court of law. He had no faith in American ideals, and his actions harmed everyone.
Hasn't gone before the court to my knowledge, but due process is out law, isn't it? Anyone we hold is subject to our laws. Not because of who they are but because of who we are. If you call them soliders, follow the GC. If you say they are not, then they are subject to our laws as criminals.
The agreement we signed with the UN. We broke our agreement.
Sorry I didn't read or see your link. Thus I have to go on what I read in the papers and my OP.
I don't remember anything other than AG Holder wanted to try these GITMO terrorists in NYC. Now just how dumb is that, I ask. Only a novice or law professor would come up with something that ignorant, IMO. Shows the "no chops" I was speaking about previously.
No Bush's Iraqi War doesn't belong to Obama, but Obama bought the Afgan War, he said it was a "good" war. I'll bet when all is said and done, this "good" war is gonna bite President Obama in the butt. He owns it now.
I see you just have your opinion on Bush and his "broke laws", and as I've said before we all have an opinion but I favor my own the most.
Great, this is where Joe gets to derail the entire thread launching off on an argument he has been losing soundly since his days as JD3.
j-mac
It's always fascinating to hear leftists claim that enemy terrorists require due process in American courts, and always without any legal precedence whatsoever.
And as to the UN , aren't you the guy who just said "Who needs foreign countries"?
Your ideals are quite flexible it seems.
Haven't re prosecurted terrorist before? Wouldn't that be precedence?
I don't know what you mean about needing foreign countries. I've made no such claim.
We've done it before,a nd quite successfully, so why would it be dunb?
And yes, many of us agreed with Obama that he had to correct the Bush error and return to the focus on Afghanistan. And a I disagre with a few things he did there, it may well bite him. But it is not equal to what Bush did in Iraq.
As for me just having opinion, do you argue we have no such laws? That we did not sign agreements with the UN?
I'm one of those "people" that believes firming in "Get the US our of the UN and get the UN out of the US". Some of the UNs deicisions are so stupid that a 2 year old would laugh. The UN appoints Iran to head up the Human Rights Committee. That is absolutely stupid. So I'm sure you can see how I wouldn't give two hoots for anything that comes out of the UN, yes?
Yes I realize we are doing "it" right now and that jackass terrorist is making a mockery of our courts and giving a wonderful performance for every other nimrod terrorist in the world. That sure makes me happy snappy.
So how's that "return to the focus on Afganistan" working. We've already told them we're leaving in 2014. So all they have to do is kill some NATO/American troops everyday or so until we leave. I'm sure those being sacrificed on the battlefield by President Obama are real glad he has refocused on the Afgan War for the next 2 years. Hopefully they can dodge the kill shot for that long.
Again President Obama hasn't the skills nor the "time in the zone" to be POTUS. I think history will prove me right.
Who are ou referring to here?
In post 112 you said "We didn't need other countries" and then later suggested subordinating US sovereignty to UN authority..
I didn;t say right now, I said we've done it in the past, have tried, convicted, and housed for years with no problems at all. And frankly, he's made far fewer mistakes than Bush. Far fewer.
I'm one of those "people" that believes firming in "Get the US our of the UN and get the UN out of the US". Some of the UNs deicisions are so stupid that a 2 year old would laugh. The UN appoints Iran to head up the Human Rights Committee. That is absolutely stupid. So I'm sure you can see how I wouldn't give two hoots for anything that comes out of the UN, yes?
Yes I realize we are doing "it" right now and that jackass terrorist is making a mockery of our courts and giving a wonderful performance for every other nimrod terrorist in the world. That sure makes me happy snappy.
So how's that "return to the focus on Afganistan" working. We've already told them we're leaving in 2014. So all they have to do is kill some NATO/American troops everyday or so until we leave. I'm sure those being sacrificed on the battlefield by President Obama are real glad he has refocused on the Afgan War for the next 2 years. Hopefully they can dodge the kill shot for that long.
Again President Obama hasn't the skills nor the "time in the zone" to be POTUS. I think history will prove me right.
It's not often that an army announces when it will be retreating. I believe that's a recent trend.
It's not often that an army announces when it will be retreating. I believe that's a recent trend.
It's the progressive way to fight a war. Like I've stated over and over President Obama hasn't the background, knowledge, ability, experience to be the leader of the US. He can talk a good game, who just hasn't had the experience in playing the game. He's a rookie and sold the voters a bill of goods.
Hopefully thinking people who are ready to face reality will see this and vote accordingly in November.