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Eric Holder grilled over Fast and Furious in Congress

The Bush administration shut it down as soon as they started losing track of the guns. Holder did NOT. It was the Obama administration who re-started gun runner.



Did he say that Project Gun Runner was aimed at disrupting arms trafficking between the US and Mexico? The Project ensured the illegal transfer of thousands of weapons across an international border to bloodthirsty drug cartels.

What incompetent and criminally culpable imbeciles.
 
When the OP is calling out corruption, and equating "progressive thinking" with it, you have no choice but to allow every "tactic" under the sun to be used. Please though, tell us all about how you're not a hyperbolic hack and how what you did from post 1 in this thread is somehow different.


This isn't about me. See that is what real hacks do, in true Sol Alinsky fashion they/you try to freeze your target, in this case me, distract off topic, make it about the target, then mock, ridicule, and then you can dismiss them....Sorry, we know the play book, and yours is tired, and used up....Get a new bag.


j-mac
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1060580121 said:
Did he say that Project Gun Runner was aimed at disrupting arms trafficking between the US and Mexico? The Project ensured the illegal transfer of thousands of weapons across an international border to bloodthirsty drug cartels.

What incompetent and criminally culpable imbeciles.

The way I read about the program, the guns were supposed to be stopped just across the border and those carrying them prosecuted. I think the Bush administration underestimated the depth of corruption of the Mexican officials. I give them credit for halting the operation as soon as they realized the guys who were supposed to be stopping them on the other side of the border weren't. Knowing this the Obama administration re-started the program. That's just criminal.
 
This isn't about me. See that is what real hacks do, in true Sol Alinsky fashion they/you try to freeze your target, in this case me, distract off topic, make it about the target, then mock, ridicule, and then you can dismiss them....Sorry, we know the play book, and yours is tired, and used up....Get a new bag.

j-mac

The rhetoric is strong in you. Do you have a subscription to The Blaze too? Actually, don't answer that. I'm already weirded out by you using the 3rd person and referring some phantom audience to whom you seem to be a member. So that stated, I'd hate to see you go on another little speech. All I'm telling you is not to cry and complain when you get smacked with the same hyperbolic rhetoric you use.
 
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The rhetoric is strong in you. Do you have a subscription to The Blaze too? Actually, don't answer that. I'm already weirded out by you using the 3rd person and referring some phantom audience to whom you seem to be a member. So that stated, I'd hate to see you go on another little speech. All I'm telling you is not to cry and complain when you get smacked with the same hyperbolic rhetoric you use.


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j-mac
 
In my amateur analysis I think he is running blocker for Obama himself. See, I think that Barry thought if anything went wrong, they could blame it on Bush and the whole 'wide reciever' thing. Trouble is, Bush actually tracked the weapons they did, and they let Mexico in on the plan.....Obama didn't. See, he thought what a great idea to start doing away with the 2nd Amendment....Til Terry died that is....Now they are in hot water, and that dishonest puke Holder is criminal in his prosecution of office these days.


j-mac

Obama did what? The President had no knowledge of the action unlike his predecessor who knew the Plame leak came from Cheny's office all along.
And how would a bungled operation help get anything, no less gun control? Besides it is safe to assume that the cartels get their weapons from the U.S., everybody else does. Why anyone needed to prove it is beyond me.
There must be a shortage of dirt if this is the best you got.
 
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Anyone questioning the corruption that is the Obama administration need only look at DoJ these days, and more importantly, Eric Holder himself...He is a glaring jewel of progressive thinking that everyone outside the Obama administration is stupid, and can't see his lies for what they are....Criminal.


j-mac


I believe I just heard on the news AG Holder is going to be held "in contempt of Congress".


For someone who's supposed to be intelligent, you'd think he have realized right out of the shoot, he could only stall so long. Just proves what I've said - AG Holder is a boob.
 
... according to the right wing website, Gateway Pundit. Is there a video anywhere of Holder making that claim?
Did you actually go to the link...and watch the video in question?
 
Did you actually go to the link...and watch the video in question?

The link I went to didn't have the video in question. I found a video on YouTube but it cuts off before Holder can respond fully.
 
The link I went to didn't have the video in question. I found a video on YouTube but it cuts off before Holder can respond fully.
The video where he states that even thought the email specifically states ir is referencing 'Fast and Furious"...thats not what he REALLY meant. Fast and Furious REALLY meant a different program. Really. Really?
 
The House Oversight Committee has scheduled a vote next week on whether to hold Holder in contempt.

According to CBS News:

It's the fourth time in 30 years that Congress has launched a contempt action against an executive branch member.

This time, the dispute stems from Holder failing to turn over documents subpoenaed on October 12, 2011 in the Fast and Furious "gunwalking" investigation.

House committee schedules contempt vote against Holder - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
 
The video where he states that even thought the email specifically states ir is referencing 'Fast and Furious"...thats not what he REALLY meant. Fast and Furious REALLY meant a different program. Really. Really?

The video that cuts off while Holder is still responding -- really.

From the portion that wasn't cut off it appears that Holder was talking to someone when the email was being read. That's why it would be helpful to see the WHOLE exchange and not an edited portion of it.
 
... according to the right wing website, Gateway Pundit. Is there a video anywhere of Holder making that claim?

Would you have questioned the information if it originated from MSNBC, The Progressive, or maybe the Democratic Underground?

 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1060582345 said:
Would you have questioned the information if it originated from MSNBC, The Progressive, or maybe the Democratic Underground?

That's the clip I was talking about above. If you watch the part where the camera first moves to Holder you can see that he was talking to a woman behind him while Chaffetz was reading the email, so he probably didn't hear him say fast and furious. So it sounds like he's denying something totally obvious when it's probably just a miscommunication. If the cl went on for another minute or two we would probably know.
 
Who ever authorized the re-start of gun runner in DOJ, ATF and the White House must be held accountable for the deaths of 2 American Law Enforcement agents Jamie Zapata and Brian Terry.
 
That's the clip I was talking about above. If you watch the part where the camera first moves to Holder you can see that he was talking to a woman behind him while Chaffetz was reading the email, so he probably didn't hear him say fast and furious. So it sounds like he's denying something totally obvious when it's probably just a miscommunication. If the cl went on for another minute or two we would probably know.




How is that video "miscommunication"? The email stated "fast and furious". Is Holder deaf? Sounded pretty clear to me and I wasn't in front of the committee.
 
That's the clip I was talking about above. If you watch the part where the camera first moves to Holder you can see that he was talking to a woman behind him while Chaffetz was reading the email, so he probably didn't hear him say fast and furious. So it sounds like he's denying something totally obvious when it's probably just a miscommunication. If the cl went on for another minute or two we would probably know.

A couple more "probablies" and you might even convince yourself.
 
That's the clip I was talking about above. If you watch the part where the camera first moves to Holder you can see that he was talking to a woman behind him while Chaffetz was reading the email, so he probably didn't hear him say fast and furious. So it sounds like he's denying something totally obvious when it's probably just a miscommunication. If the cl went on for another minute or two we would probably know.

Does Holder have ADD or a hearing problem?
 
The video that cuts off while Holder is still responding -- really.

From the portion that wasn't cut off it appears that Holder was talking to someone when the email was being read. That's why it would be helpful to see the WHOLE exchange and not an edited portion of it.
CSPAN baby.

Its comical to see the lack of accountability and the kneejerk defense of the administration and status quo. Its not our fault, we didnt know, blame Bush.
 
That's the clip I was talking about above. If you watch the part where the camera first moves to Holder you can see that he was talking to a woman behind him while Chaffetz was reading the email, so he probably didn't hear him say fast and furious. So it sounds like he's denying something totally obvious when it's probably just a miscommunication. If the cl went on for another minute or two we would probably know.

In the video we both saw Holder and Chaffetz had a conversation about what "fast and furious" referred to. I thought Chaffetz was going to pop a vessel when Holder said the reference to "fast and furious" was about Laura’s Tucson case, "wide receiver" and not "fast and furious."

The reference to both was in the same sentence referring to each individual operation. Give us a break Mr. Holder. Are you that dumb or do you think the American people are?

Among three of the emails (see Jason Weinstein Email Fast, Furious.pdf), the second, dated “October 17, 2010 11:07 PM,” was sent by Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein to James Trusty and it states:

“Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed?

It’s a tricky case, given the number of guns that have walked, but it is a significant set of prosecutions.”

Holder Claims Emails Using Words
 
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Would you have questioned the information if it originated from MSNBC, The Progressive, or maybe the Democratic Underground?

The exchange starting at At 1:30...its just mind numbing.
 
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