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So you don't support the private sector:shrug:


Why is it that liberals (declared or not) always have to use this type of hyperbolic crap when prefacing their arguments?

If you are against abortion....Then you hate women

If you are against public sector bloated pensions....Then you hate Teachers

If you are for drilling....Then you hate the environment

If you are for free trade...Then you hate the poor....

etc. etc. etc....


It is so dishonest.

j-mac
 
Why is it that liberals (declared or not) always have to use this type of hyperbolic crap when prefacing their arguments?

If you are against abortion....Then you hate women

If you are against public sector bloated pensions....Then you hate Teachers

If you are for drilling....Then you hate the environment

If you are for free trade...Then you hate the poor....

etc. etc. etc....


It is so dishonest.

j-mac

Oh you mean like years ago at WS when you called people anti Troop and Anti American for opposing the War in Iraq.
 
Why is it that liberals (declared or not) always have to use this type of hyperbolic crap when prefacing their arguments?

LMAO being called hyperbolic compared to Conservative is hilarious.

He is the yammering how results count and private sector this and that, guess what.....I showed him a result.
 
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Why is it that liberals (declared or not) always have to use this type of hyperbolic crap when prefacing their arguments?

If you are against abortion....Then you hate women

If you are against public sector bloated pensions....Then you hate Teachers

If you are for drilling....Then you hate the environment

If you are for free trade...Then you hate the poor....

etc. etc. etc....


It is so dishonest.

j-mac

Kinda like if you oppose the war, you hate America and the troops. Or if you criticize the Israeli government, you're an anti-Semite. Or if you're pro-choice, you hate babies and you love genocide. Or if you point out economic inequality that exists in our society today, you want to penalize success.
 
Why is it that liberals (declared or not) always have to use this type of hyperbolic crap when prefacing their arguments?

If you are against abortion....Then you hate women

If you are against public sector bloated pensions....Then you hate Teachers

If you are for drilling....Then you hate the environment

If you are for free trade...Then you hate the poor....

etc. etc. etc....


It is so dishonest.

j-mac

Maybe they do it to piss you off. How's it working?
 
Oh you mean like years ago at WS when you called people anti Troop and Anti American for opposing the War in Iraq.


Hmmm....I called people "anti American"? And I am sure with your obsession with me that you have saved proof? If not Sit back Down! Anyone can make up ****.


j-mac
 
Kinda like if you oppose the war, you hate America and the troops. Or if you criticize the Israeli government, you're an anti-Semite. Or if you're pro-choice, you hate babies and you love genocide. Or if you point out economic inequality that exists in our society today, you want to penalize success.


I try to save mine for Jack Asses like this:

Bill Press declares war

I have seen a few in my time....Hell, I bet there are some here that agree with Press.

j-mac
 
Kinda like if you oppose the war, you hate America and the troops. Or if you criticize the Israeli government, you're an anti-Semite. Or if you're pro-choice, you hate babies and you love genocide. Or if you point out economic inequality that exists in our society today, you want to penalize success.
None of those are true. Hate is inaccurate in most cases. You don't hate..., rather- you are simply misguided or, in some cases, simply stupid.
 
Hmmm....I called people "anti American"? And I am sure with your obsession with me that you have saved proof? If not Sit back Down! Anyone can make up ****.


j-mac

Are you really saying you didn't?
 
Its a sad day when democracy is when whoever has the most money wins. A sad day. So this is what US democracy and politics has become (for both sides Democrats and Republicans are both guilty of this BS). Ohhh the glory. Reminds me of a ol Abraham Lincoln quote: "..corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed."
 
Why is it that liberals (declared or not) always have to use this type of hyperbolic crap when prefacing their arguments?

If you are against abortion....Then you hate women

If you are against public sector bloated pensions....Then you hate Teachers

If you are for drilling....Then you hate the environment

If you are for free trade...Then you hate the poor....

etc. etc. etc....


It is so dishonest.

j-mac

Why do conservatives (declared or not) always have to use this type of hyperbolic crap when prefacing their arguments?

If you are for abortion....Then you are a murderer.

If you are for SSM then you are an immoral sinner that will go to hell.

If you are against guns then your a facist commie.

If are for higher taxes then you hate the rich.

It is so dishonest.

Kal'Stang

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Get the point?
 
Its a sad day when democracy is when whoever has the most money wins. A sad day. So this is what US democracy and politics has become (for both sides Democrats and Republicans are both guilty of this BS). Ohhh the glory. Reminds me of a ol Abraham Lincoln quote: "..corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed."

I agree, it was a sad day in 2008 when the Presidency was bought. I mean it's clear Obama only won because he outspent Republicans 2-to-1. Personally, I would have never known who to vote for if it wasn't for those fancy TV commercials and sleek bumper sticker designs.

I wonder, why was it that Obama was able to raise twice as much as McCain? Why did Wall Street invest so heavily in him?
 
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Its a sad day when democracy is when whoever has the most money wins. A sad day. So this is what US democracy and politics has become (for both sides Democrats and Republicans are both guilty of this BS). Ohhh the glory. Reminds me of a ol Abraham Lincoln quote: "..corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed."

that is not, nor has ever been, the deciding factor in elections.

there is simply no linear relationship, in politics, with the amount of money a candidate has and his/her degree of success in elections.

common perception of this issue is generally wrong and one would be wise to cease trying to further manipulate that perception in the wrong direction.
 
that is not, nor has ever been, the deciding factor in elections.

there is simply no linear relationship, in politics, with the amount of money a candidate has and his/her degree of success in elections.

common perception of this issue is generally wrong and one would be wise to cease trying to further manipulate that perception in the wrong direction.

Let me be the first....proof please? Shouldn't be too hard. Just look up how much each President has spent for thier campaigns vs how much their opponent spent. I'd say for a good read on this you'll have to go back at least 100 years.

Good luck.
 
Its a sad day when democracy is when whoever has the most money wins. A sad day. So this is what US democracy and politics has become (for both sides Democrats and Republicans are both guilty of this BS). Ohhh the glory. Reminds me of a ol Abraham Lincoln quote: "..corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed."

Money helps with marketing but money isn't the reason people win elections. Case in point, 2008 Mitt Romney outspent John Mccain like crazy, and he still didn't get anywhere close to the nomination.

I'm not sure why the media pushes this notion that money = political wins. If your district votes very heavily democratic and liberal, and very rarely votes conservative, you can outspend your opponent 10-to-1 promoting conservative policies, you STILL won't win.

Scott Walker didn't win because he "outspent" his opponent, he won because the VOTERS of Wisconsin understand that we need fiscal responsibility.
 
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Money helps with marketing but money isn't the reason people win elections. Case in point, 2008 Mitt Romney outspent John Mccain like crazy, and he still didn't get anywhere close to the nomination.

I'm not sure why the media pushes this notion that money = political wins. If your district votes very heavily democratic and liberal, and very rarely votes conservative, you can outspend your opponent 10-to-1 promoting conservative policies, you STILL won't win.

Scott Walker didn't win because he "outspent" his opponent, he won because the VOTERS of Wisconsin understand that we need fiscal responsibility.

So he felt the need to raise an 8 to 1 margin over his opponent because money doesn't have anything to do with elections??? Don't you think his campaign finance committee would have told him to stop wasting time raising money if they thought he didn't need to have a healthy lead in cash?

I'll give you this... In a place like Wisconsin, most peoples minds were already made up. There were very few independents who hadn't already figured it out. However, on a national stage, advertisements are not there to persuade democrats or republicans... they are there to persuade the undecided independent voters. So yes, money and advertisements are everything when it comes to national stage elections.
 
Let me be the first....proof please? Shouldn't be too hard. Just look up how much each President has spent for thier campaigns vs how much their opponent spent. I'd say for a good read on this you'll have to go back at least 100 years.

Good luck.

Actually the Freakonomics guy devotes I think a good section to pointing that out.
 
Why do conservatives (declared or not) always have to use this type of hyperbolic crap when prefacing their arguments?

Um, fighting fire with fire.....Ever heard of it?

If you are for abortion....Then you are a murderer.

I wouldn't necessarily go that far, but pro abortion supporters, are taking a human life regardless of what they tell themselves to justify the action.

If you are for SSM then you are an immoral sinner that will go to hell.

Why's that. I am a conservative that really doesn't care if gay people get married or not. I have more important things to worry about. Such as, you liberal/progressives destroying my country.

If you are against guns then your a facist commie.

Well, when you want to ignore the Constitution, in favor of effecting someone's legal ownership of property simply because you don't like that property, then yes.

If are for higher taxes then you hate the rich.

You do hate the rich.

It is so dishonest.

Kal'Stang

See here is the point where I could play inflammatory little games and change your quote to read 'I am'... but in your case I think it is more a combination of youth + misinformation that shapes your silliness here.


j-mac
 
I own a very small piece of it yes....And pay taxes on that ownership. Any other wise ass things to say Jet?


j-mac

You wanna talk about "Wise Ass Things"... dude when you make outrageous claims about how liberals are destroying the country you've earned all the wise assness you're gonna get :lol:

You don't feel perhaps it's a little arrogant to "MY COUNTRY" like you own it or like your sides opinion is the only one that's valid?
 
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