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Veterans symbolically discard service medals at anti-NATO rally

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Veterans symbolically discard service medals at anti-NATO rally - Yahoo! News

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Nearly 50 U.S. military veterans at an anti-NATO rally in Chicago threw their service medals into the street on Sunday, an action they said symbolized their rejection of the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.Some of the veterans, many wearing military uniform shirts over black anti-war t-shirts, choked back tears as they explained their actions. Others folded an American flag while a bugle played "Taps," which is typically performed at U.S. military funerals.
"The medals are supposed to be for acts of heroism. I don't feel like a hero. I don't feel like I deserve them," said Zach LaPorte, who served in Iraq in 2005 and 2006.
LaPorte, a 28-year-old mechanical engineer from Milwaukee, said he enlisted in the Army at 19 because he felt there were few other options. At the time, he could not afford to stay in college.
"I witnessed civilian casualties and civilians being arrested in what I consider an illegal occupation of a sovereign nation," LaPorte said.
He said he was glad the United States had withdrawn its combat troops from Iraq, but said he did not believe the NATO military alliance was going to leave Afghanistan.
On Sunday, NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen opened the two-day summit of the 26-member alliance saying there would be no hasty exit from Afghanistan.
A veteran from New York who only gave his name as Jerry said: "I don't want any part of this anymore. I chose human life over war, militarism and imperialism."
The veterans had hoped to present their medals to a NATO representative. The closest they could get was the fence ringing the McCormick Place convention center about a block from where U.S. President Barack Obama and other leaders were meeting. The veterans threw their medals toward the convention center.
Matt Howard, 29, who served in the Marines from 2001 to 2006, said the rate of suicides among veterans returning from the wars is high.
"These medals are not worth the cloth and steel they're printed on. They're representative of failed policies," said Howard, a spokesman for Iraq Veterans Against the War.
Former U.S. Army Sergeant Alejandro Villatoro, 29, of Chicago, served during the Iraq 2003 invasion and in Afghanistan in 2011.
He said he suffers from post-traumatic stress syndrome and depression and gave back three medals - one "War on Terrorism" medal, one for participating in the Iraq war and a NATO medal from the Afghanistan war. He said he wants the war in Afghanistan to end.
"There's no honor in these wars," said Villatoro, before he threw away his medals. "There's just shame."

I think its time to bring our troops home and end these wars. What about you? Anyone think its disrespectful they played taps?
 
Must be the intellectual disciples of John Kerry.
 
I didn't think we still had these dirt bags running around.
 
Anyone think its disrespectful they played taps?

I think it's more disrespectful the thousands of times taps has been played due to actual, real deaths caused by pointless military occupations.
 
I didn't think we still had these dirt bags running around.

People that have a different opinion than you and express it are "dirt bags"?
 
I didn't think we still had these dirt bags running around.

There a law that says they can't give their medals back to the government?

A government you hate in the first place?

Wake up sometime...
 
I think its time to bring our troops home and end these wars. What about you? Anyone think its disrespectful they played taps?

They are free to have their opinions. I think their methodology is wrong.

As for bringing everyone home, sure, only if we get rid of every base and bring everyone home across the world and flip the bird to the rest of the world. But of course, that's not going to happen.
 
Arbo said:
As for bringing everyone home, sure, only if we get rid of every base and bring everyone home across the world and flip the bird to the rest of the world. But of course, that's not going to happen.

Because the only choice in international politics is of course one extreme or the other. :roll:
 
Either we are going to continue to play policeman for the world, or we are not.

Or we can stop invading countries for pitiful reasons....
 
Or we can stop invading countries for pitiful reasons....

Maybe if we had good reason we could be good fascists or something...

too bad the US doesnt even succeed at proper fascism...

hopefully dec 2012 hits and the moon crashes into the earth...
 
Arbo said:
Either we are going to continue to play policeman for the world, or we are not.

LOL yes, sure, the US is playing "the policeman" in Afghanistan. Sure. That's why they support a dictator that got to power through blatant electoral fraud and perpetuate a system rife with corruption. Yes, great policemen they are! :doh

EDIT: Unless you meant these type of policemen? Because in that case you might have a point.

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Or we can stop invading countries for pitiful reasons....

If one tries just a little, they can com up with a 'pitiful' reason for every military engagement that has ever happened. No matter the outcome.
 
LOL yes, sure, the US is playing "the policeman" in Afghanistan. Sure. That's why they support a dictator that got to power through blatant electoral fraud and perpetuate a system rife with corruption. Yes, great policemen they are! :doh

Since when was it a requirement that someone be good at what they do to have that job/duty? Take a look around you, the world is full of incompetence.
 
If one tries just a little, they can com up with a 'pitiful' reason for every military engagement that has ever happened. No matter the outcome.

Cant think of one for WW2, Revolutionary War, and Civil War.....
 
Arbo said:
Since when was it a requirement that someone be good at what they do to have that job/duty? Take a look around you, the world is full of incompetence.

I think, and unfortunately I have to ruin my past wit on your denseness, that you are completely wrong in your "policeman" analogy in that nobody here is incompetent. Rather, the US has been incredibly competent in its support of the narco-dictatorship ruling over Afghanistan.
 
Cant think of one for WW2, Revolutionary War, and Civil War.....

That's unfortunate.

I think, and unfortunately I have to ruin my past wit on your denseness, that you are completely wrong in your "policeman" analogy in that nobody here is incompetent. Rather, the US has been incredibly competent in its support of the narco-dictatorship ruling over Afghanistan.

Apples, oranges and goal posts. All entertaining, I guess.
 
I think, and unfortunately I have to ruin my past wit on your denseness, that you are completely wrong in your "policeman" analogy in that nobody here is incompetent. Rather, the US has been incredibly competent in its support of the narco-dictatorship ruling over Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is hardly a dictatorship, if nothing else you can't argue that the central government has the power to enforce a dictatorship over its country.
 
Wiseone said:
Afghanistan is hardly a dictatorship, if nothing else you can't argue that the central government has the power to enforce a dictatorship over its country.

First, a dictatorship has many meanings, not solely defined by rule of an entire country by a lone individual.

Second, I don't align myself with the totalitarian school of thought so your latter point is irrelevant.
 
Cant think of one for WW2, Revolutionary War, and Civil War.....

So, you would rather things grow so out of control that we lose a half-million vice four-thousand?

That notion makes one wonder what the real reason for opposing the wars are.
 
I think it's more disrespectful the thousands of times taps has been played due to actual, real deaths caused by pointless military occupations.

Taps is played every night on military posts and they disrespected the true meaning of what taps is about...
 
First, a dictatorship has many meanings, not solely defined by rule of an entire country by a lone individual.

Second, I don't align myself with the totalitarian school of thought so your latter point is irrelevant.

Whats you're meaning? I'm really curious because from what I can see a government cannot be called a proper dictatorship unless it is actually totalitarian over at least the majority of its country.
 
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