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Lockerbie

Nice that this mass murderer could die in the comfort of his home, surrounded by family, friends and fellow terrorists.

R.I.P.
 
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If he even did it... nobody in his native country believes he did it and whether he did it or not isn't public knowledge...
he was allowed to go home over an oil deal with the British government...
 
specklebang said:
Nice that this mass murderer could die in the comfort of his home, surrounded by family, friends and fellow terrorists.

R.I.P.
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better than dying in a Scottish hospital surrounded by his family all being paid for my the British tax payer.
 
MKULTRABOY said:
If he even did it... nobody in his native country believes he did it and whether he did it or not isn't public knowledge...
he was allowed to go home over an oil deal with the British government...
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any proof about this oil deal or are we just going on hearsay now?
 
He was released because his appeal hearing was looking more likely to be a winner the nearer it got. He was "allowed" to go home to die on compassionate grounds, on condition he withdrew his appeal. That way he got to go home to die, and we still had somebody officially guilty of the Lockerbie bomb.
 
Would I then assume you believe him innocent? Obviously, I personally don't have a clue so please take my question as honest and sincere.


Manc Skipper said:
He was released because his appeal hearing was looking more likely to be a winner the nearer it got. He was "allowed" to go home to die on compassionate grounds, on condition he withdrew his appeal. That way he got to go home to die, and we still had somebody officially guilty of the Lockerbie bomb.
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specklebang said:
Would I then assume you believe him innocent? Obviously, I personally don't have a clue so please take my question as honest and sincere.
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I think most people who actually look at the facts of the case would consider him to be nothing more than a fall guy.
 
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I shed no tears for one such as he.
 
Higgins86 said:
BBC News - Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset al-Megrahi dies in Tripoli

The man has finally passed away as expected, so now maybe the American Gov can stop its bitching and moaning.
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No - I'm not done bitching. 3 years of freedom = 3 years too long.

He still disgusts me - they still disgust me for letting him go - he was given a hero's welcome home . . . I still want to vomit. What a sick pig. That's one government and judicial system I'll never appreciate, say anything positive about or come to remotely respect.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
No - I'm not done bitching. 3 years of freedom = 3 years too long.
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Agreed... he should have spent his last hours in a dank, stinking jail cell. What a shame that didn't happen.

Aunt Spiker said:
He still disgusts me - they still disgust me for letting him go - he was given a hero's welcome home . . . I still want to vomit. What a sick pig. That's one government and judicial system I'll never appreciate, say anything positive about or come to remotely respect.
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:thumbs:
 
I hope the piece-a-**** suffered.
 
Higgins86 said:
BBC News - Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset al-Megrahi dies in Tripoli

The man has finally passed away as expected, so now maybe the American Gov can stop its bitching and moaning.
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I am absolutely baffled at how they could let a convicted mass murderer walk free. He claims he's innocent, and maybe he is; I'm all about appeals and an innocent man fighting for a turnover on his conviction... However, until that conviction is officially turned over and he's acquitted WHY would you let him go? Ridiculous.
 
I already explained it. You let him go home to die, on the basis that he's likely to win his appeal, leaving you with egg on your face, nobody guilty of the crime, and the real killer still free (incidentally he still is.) Instead of that, he gets to go home right now, but only on condition that he withdraws his appeal. He agrees, because by the time the appeal is heard, and he wins, he might die in prison in Scotland.

From the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Board...

" ...27.216 In accordance with the principles set out at the beginning of this chapter the
Commission has also considered whether, notwithstanding its conclusion that a
miscarriage of justice may have occurred, the entirety of the evidence considered by it
points irrefutably to the applicant’s guilt. The Commission’s conclusion is that it does
not.
27.217 In these circumstances the Commission believes not only that there may have
been a miscarriage of justice in the applicant’s case, but also that it is in the interests
of justice to refer the case to the High Court. The Commission accordingly does so. "

http://login.heraldscotland.com/SCCRC-Statement-of-Reasons-red.pdf
 
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Manc Skipper said:
I already explained it. You let him go home to die, on the basis that he's likely to win his appeal, leaving you with egg on your face, nobody guilty of the crime, and the real killer still free (incidentally he still is.) Instead of that, he gets to go home right now, but only on condition that he withdraws his appeal. He agrees, because by the time the appeal is heard, and he wins, he might die in prison in Scotland.

From the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Board...

" ...27.216 In accordance with the principles set out at the beginning of this chapter the
Commission has also considered whether, notwithstanding its conclusion that a
miscarriage of justice may have occurred, the entirety of the evidence considered by it
points irrefutably to the applicant’s guilt. The Commission’s conclusion is that it does
not.
27.217 In these circumstances the Commission believes not only that there may have
been a miscarriage of justice in the applicant’s case, but also that it is in the interests
of justice to refer the case to the High Court. The Commission accordingly does so. "

http://login.heraldscotland.com/SCCRC-Statement-of-Reasons-red.pdf
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Damn... That's really messed up...
 
MKULTRABOY said:
I'm going on I watched the news back then...

wtf are you going on?
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lol you watched the news? Im going on the fact there is no reported deal and both the British Gov and the Scottish parliment have denied any such deal.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
No - I'm not done bitching. 3 years of freedom = 3 years too long.

He still disgusts me - they still disgust me for letting him go - he was given a hero's welcome home . . . I still want to vomit. What a sick pig. That's one government and judicial system I'll never appreciate, say anything positive about or come to remotely respect.
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As Manc Skipper has pointed out already there was a good chance he would of been free though the appeal court and I have pointed out that if he remained in Scotland the British tax payer would of been paying for this guys hospital bill, so the British people and Gov would have to of spent thousands of pounds on this guy just to please America? Not a chance!
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I am absolutely baffled at how they could let a convicted mass murderer walk free. He claims he's innocent, and maybe he is; I'm all about appeals and an innocent man fighting for a turnover on his conviction... However, until that conviction is officially turned over and he's acquitted WHY would you let him go? Ridiculous.
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Simple.. because an appeal, which the US and UK governments had been opposing from day one and sabotaging, would expose serious issues with the actual evidence that the defence in the first trial never got access too. Even the Scottish appeal system said that there was most likely a miss-carriage of justice in the case and it takes quite a lot for them to come with such a verdict.

The political fall-out of an appeal would have put back anti-terror cases for decades, since every bit of evidence and testimony would have been put in doubt.

So the best thing for the US and UK was to secretly agree to release him on the condition that he withdrew his appeal.. which he did. Now of course the US and UK governments had their asses clear and could complain, because it was officially the Scots that did the releasing.

I find it strange that a large number of the British relatives to the victims all believe that he was innocent..
 
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Higgins86 said:
As Manc Skipper has pointed out already there was a good chance he would of been free though the appeal court and I have pointed out that if he remained in Scotland the British tax payer would of been paying for this guys hospital bill, so the British people and Gov would have to of spent thousands of pounds on this guy just to please America? Not a chance!
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Only Americans, hunh? :roll:
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Only Americans, hunh? :roll:
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well no other countries were moaning about it, Americans went as faras talking about boycotting Scottish goods in protest!
 
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