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I was not "removing" the motivation, the motivation was not the subject at all. The subject was whether marriage is a civil right. Again, you skipped over the entire argument between American, Kate, Zyph and I.
Again, the out of context semantic argument, this argument is specifically about SSM.
OK...fine, you are not going to support your underlying argument about rights being denied....sort of pointless....but then most of your debates are, they are simply arguments to nothing.
It is in the context of whether marriage is a civil right. You AGAIN are leaving out the CONTEXT of the debate.
You are arguing within the framework that marriage is limited to heterosexual unions. The question at hand, is whether one has a right to marrying someone of the same sex, outside of the traditional framework. I thought everyone understood that BASIC point.
Any other red herrings you want to toss out?
Dude, look. You're confusing yourself again.
If a civil right is being denied to one group -- homosexuals -- and granted to another group -- heterosexuals -- then you should be able to explain exactly what it is which is being denied.
It's not "marriage" -- everyone can marry on exactly the same basis as everyone else.
If this is not true, explain exactly how, keeping in mind that YOU say the motivation for wanting to do it -- love, sexual attraction -- is irrelevant to the civil right. Tell me who I, as a heterosexual, can marry that a homosexual cannot.
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