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Neo-Nazis elected in the new Greek parliament

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THE Greek neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party will enter parliament for the first time in nearly 40 years, exit polls showed as ballots closed in an early election that could derail the country's reforms.The party is calculated to win between six and eight percent of the vote on rising immigration and crime concerns, comfortably above the three-percent threshold required for to enter parliament.
The group reacted jubilantly and claimed the result would translate into more than 25 deputies in the 300-seat parliament, a stunning blow to mainstream parties.


Read more: Neo-Nazis elected in the new Greek parliament | News.com.au
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Those who don't pay attention, and learn history are doomed to repeat it.

Thoughts?


j-mac
 
Thoughts??? Yes, you are correct. When things get so bad, the people just want it to stop and will support just about anyone to get it to stop. Problem is what stops it is worse than you ever imagined.
 
Rapunzel52 said:
Thoughts??? Yes, you are correct. When things get so bad, the people just want it to stop and will support just about anyone to get it to stop. Problem is what stops it is worse than you ever imagined.
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Reminds me of the Tea Party and Republicans not allowing reforms take hold for the better.
 
Hikertrash said:
Reminds me of the Tea Party and Republicans not allowing reforms take hold for the better.
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What tripe, how does a discussion regarding greek government turn into a hack fest this quickly?
 
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Maybe it sounds weird, but the fact the Greek neo-Nazis "only" made 7% of the votes is not that bad. Not that you get me wrong, 7% are 7% too much, but still, Greece is in a situation just as bad, if not worse, than Germany was ca. 1930-32, so 7% are much better than 34%.
 
j-mac said:
Those who don't pay attention, and learn history are doomed to repeat it.

Thoughts?


j-mac
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The way to takeover a democratic country is to do so through the ballot box.....The Greek voters are voting for, the neo-nazi party that is slowly moving towards, the top

That's how Hitler rose to power.
 
j-mac said:
Those who don't pay attention, and learn history are doomed to repeat it.

Thoughts?


j-mac
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I bet that there is 8% of the population in the U.S. who would vote for Neo-Nazis into office too if we had a multi-party system.

Especially if we were facing the same challenges that Greece is facing now.

Hell, Americans voted people into office who believed in the same thing the Neo-Nazis do in our two-party system.
 
samsmart said:
I bet that there is 8% of the population in the U.S. who would vote for Neo-Nazis into office too if we had a multi-party system.

Especially if we were facing the same challenges that Greece is facing now.

Hell, Americans voted people into office who believed in the same thing the Neo-Nazis do in our two-party system.
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You do have a point Sam...I remember I was shocked when I actually learned of just how visible, and vocal the Nazi party was in the 30's here. However, Europe is moving further into Socialism in France, and now this with Greece. This effects us, and God help us if Obama is re elected....

WASHINGTON — With the victory of the Socialist candidate, François Hollande, in the French presidential election, the White House has lost one of its closest allies on the Continent, but perhaps gained one with economic policy beliefs more closely aligned with its own.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/08/world/europe/hollandes-economic-policy-may-better-suit-the-us.html
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Wow, the NYTimes...Now coming out saying that Obama policies are socialist?...We are in deep, deep trouble here.


j-mac
 
Didn't Greece just elect their center-right party as a plurality in their government?
 
extremist parties will always do well in extreme situations.

From neo nazi/fascist parties blaming immigrants, jews, or muslims etc for the problems (in the west) or ethnic Chinese in places like the Philipenes or Indonesia.

People in extreme situations will quite often support more extreme solutions, which is one reason I do support a limited welfare state
 
digsbe said:
Didn't Greece just elect their center-right party as a plurality in their government?
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So, you don't see a problem with Neo Nazi's gaining power, regardless of how small to start?

j-mac
 
Greece has had years of crushing austerity measures imposed from outside, with yet more due to be inflicted. The voters abandoned the centre coalition parties who meekly accepted the "punishment", for the extremes on the left as well as the fascist/neo nazis.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Greece has had years of crushing austerity measures imposed from outside, with yet more due to be inflicted. The voters abandoned the centre coalition parties who meekly accepted the "punishment", for the extremes on the left as well as the fascist/neo nazis.
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Crushing is a bit of hyperbole don't you think?


j-mac
 
The communist and the Neo Nazi's are back and gaining power in popularity, along with Islamists and the Caliphate is coming. It only took 70 years for Greece to forget that the Nazi's murdered 10% of the Greek people or 500,000. Half a million Greek people died at the hands of Nazi's.
 
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Rapunzel52 said:
The communist and the Neo Nazi's are back and gaining power in popularity, along with Islamists and the Caliphate is coming. It only took 70 years for Greece to forget that the Nazi's murdered 10% of the Greek people or 500,000. Half a million Greek people died at the hands of Nazi's.
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Hey, that means 4.5 million Greeks may have cheered the other 500,000 were murdered, if my math is correct. ;)
 
j-mac said:
Wow, dude....That's not cool at all.


j-mac
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I'm just saying that not all Greek necessarily were with the victims, as in many other countries which abandoned totalitarist regimes or occupations.

In France, for example, up to 20% of the voters vote for the far-right National Front, although (or because) it has sympathies for the Vichy regime.
 
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The Nazi's like to move in when you're weak and proclaim they will fix it...you will never be hungry again. They pray on weakness and Greece is weak.
 
The Nazi's and Communists are gaining power. Think about that.
 
Rapunzel52 said:
The Nazi's and Communists are gaining power. Think about that.
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The Nazis got ca. 7% of the votes in Greece and the "communists" (if Syriza actually are commies) ca. 15%. That's still far enough from power, fortunately.
 
German guy said:
The Nazis got ca. 7% of the votes in Greece and the "communists" (if Syriza actually are commies) ca. 15%. That's still far enough from power, fortunately.
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Yet that is growing faster than any global warming effort. Please don't dismiss it. A few years ago they were nothing...then a couple years ago 5.3% now 7%.
 
j-mac said:
Crushing is a bit of hyperbole don't you think?


j-mac
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Not according to friends who live and/or have family there. Wholesale job losses, public and private. Pensions and benefits slashed. There are beggars on the streets and some actually starving. What do you know about hyperbole?
 
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