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Rupert Murdoch's Fox broadcast licences targeted by US ethics group

If the child is already dead then how is this hurting him? Is it a matter of ethics to you........if so then MSNBC has done far worse on many occassions.


But the parents are still alive. The NewsCorp employees hacked into the phone of the missing teenager and then deleted personal messages, this caused the parents to believe their daughter was still alive.

Try to pay attention to the real world.
 
I don't know, does its owner overlook the hacking of a dead child's phone, and have weekly meetings with your president?


the phone thing I wouldn't put past them, as for meetings with the Prez....I am positive that they probably do.


j-mac
 
Fox News will still be on the air in the US. I know the Libbys don't want hear it, but accept it and your blood pressure won't go off the charts when it happens.
 
But the parents are still alive. The NewsCorp employees hacked into the phone of the missing teenager and then deleted personal messages, this caused the parents to believe their daughter was still alive.

Try to pay attention to the real world.

Actually there is a bit of doubt about the deleting part. Seems the service maybe auto deletes the oldest messages after a certain number of messages and time. Because of the investigation still going on, then the information on this part is limited.

But that does not change the fact that hacking the messages gave the illusions she was still alive and accessing the messages.
 
Meanwhile MSNBC is perfectly fine I suppose....:roll:


j-mac

Has anyone in the parent company of MSNBC or at MSNBC been implicated in hacking and illegal wire tapping? While MSNBC may or may not be biased, there is a difference between them and Fox News.. they are not owned by a company involved in criminal actions. But if you know more then do tell..
 
His organization was tapping the phones of UK citizens, Members of Parliament, the Royal Family. The corruption went right to the top editors, to his son. For years Murdoch moved members of his former staff into positions within the London Police which helped in the cover-up of the tapping. It was all done to feed his UK tabloid empire with gossip and to extend his political influence with the threat of smear. Murdoch loved the tabloids, the gossip game, he started his empire with those seed businesses, now it might be his end.

He did it to himself, your argument is that it was done to him......that is not how it is.


Murdoch’s Scandal | FRONTLINE | PBS

First of all Murdoch didn't tap one line and was never implicated in approving what one very small part of his media empire was doing. The idea that his entire organization worldwide should be banned or shutdown or that Murdoch himself should step down is ludicrous and entirely political.
 
"Likewise, the FBI has begun a preliminary probe into a shocking - but unsubstantiated - report in the U.K. media that Murdoch's tabloid reporters sought to hack into the phones of victims of the 9/11 attacks. "



Doesn't this sum up the US "shocking - but unsubstanitate" report?
 
"I have really no direct counter to your points about Murdoch and the criminal activities of his media empire which is the cause of his downfall, so I am going to toss out some unrelated red herrings and straw to see if I can wiggle my way out of this embarrassing position I have put myself in......wha-wha-wha...."

Ah, again you put words in the mouths of others. Go freaking figure. Nothing of value to see in your posts or the fantasy you live in.
 
When all is said and done, and the Republicans have received their thrashing this November, and the British have torn apart and buired Rupert Murdoch, then Fox News will have been reduced to a simple little tabloid show that no one watches, and that will of course be the end of Roger Ailes and his Fox News.

A good bit of leftist dream world fantasy in that post for a 'centrist'. :roll:
 
Here's what I'd like to see: since there is without doubt a left leaning media, I'd really like to see a conservative media outlet(s) that didn't lie and knowningly pass on incendiary and inaccurate information. They should just tell the same stories as the left,

Bias alert! Bias alert!

As if the left leaning outlets do not lie and knowingly pass on incendiary and inaccurate information. Get a grip.
 
Here's what I'd like to see: since there is without doubt a left leaning media, I'd really like to see a conservative media outlet(s) that didn't lie and knowningly pass on incendiary and inaccurate information. They should just tell the same stories as the left, and add accurate and researched commentary and discussion, so that centrists can make intelligent decisions and partisans can argure from positions of strength.

I will say that as far as strength goes, the left has to be much more cafreful about what they report and how they report it, becasue of the scrutiny of rightist commentary and reporting. Fox News et al on the other hand just embarrass themselves and those of the right-wing bent have nothing else out there to hang their hats on. So matter how sincere a right-winger may be, he gets lumped in with the mob.

I know several right-wingers personally, and we have very enlightening and rousing discussions based on fact. There just is no media outlet that offers same. The right-wing partisans won't debate on left-wing radio or TV because they get whipped like leather on a wood post. Becaaauuuuse they don't present their cases from a position of fact and thereby strength. The only conservative I have respect for is George Will. I think he's great!

I think that's too bad.

Yes, although rather dry George Will can be okay. There doesn't seem to be anyone on the left of his caliber. They're all rather hysterical, to one degree or another.

If you witness something by a Fox News commentator which you feel is inaccurate (left or right as they have both) why not submit it here? We often hear complaints by the left over "Fox News" but never any particular commentator. This leads me to believe that they want the entire network shut down, and only for political reasons.
 
Doesn't this sum up the US "shocking - but unsubstanitate" report?

That's the media in the UK. It's all trash over there now, which is why you get so many bizarre opinions coming from that part of the world.
 
First of all Murdoch didn't tap one line and was never implicated in approving what one very small part of his media empire was doing. The idea that his entire organization worldwide should be banned or shutdown or that Murdoch himself should step down is ludicrous and entirely political.

Of course ol' Rupe didn't personally tap into or hack into any one phone line, the man has zero computer capabilities - that's what he pays other people to do. The whole, "I didn't know what my peasants were doing" excuse simply does not fit Mr Murdoch's modus operandi. He is well known for his close attention to spending within his various enterprises, not that he would look at how many pencils and pens, or how many boxes of note pads were being purchased but he would certainly ask about payments of several hundred thousand dollars to detectives, both private and police. I'm sure he had to approve the payments to the former editor who was the first one to be convicted and sent to jail.

for more, here's The Telegraph's Phone hacking timeline that runs from March 2002 to May 3 2012.

Those who support FoxNews and NewsCorp are correct in saying the Murdoch's organisation will not be banned, however the possibility of the Murdoch family losing control of the corporation is I think quite high. Those who have invested in the company, such as Prince al Taleel, do not wish to see their money disappear and probably could join together in ousting Rupert and James if they see that as the best way to preserve their investments.
 
Of course ol' Rupe didn't personally tap into or hack into any one phone line, the man has zero computer capabilities - that's what he pays other people to do. The whole, "I didn't know what my peasants were doing" excuse simply does not fit Mr Murdoch's modus operandi. He is well known for his close attention to spending within his various enterprises, not that he would look at how many pencils and pens, or how many boxes of note pads were being purchased but he would certainly ask about payments of several hundred thousand dollars to detectives, both private and police. I'm sure he had to approve the payments to the former editor who was the first one to be convicted and sent to jail.

for more, here's The Telegraph's Phone hacking timeline that runs from March 2002 to May 3 2012.

Those who support FoxNews and NewsCorp are correct in saying the Murdoch's organisation will not be banned, however the possibility of the Murdoch family losing control of the corporation is I think quite high. Those who have invested in the company, such as Prince al Taleel, do not wish to see their money disappear and probably could join together in ousting Rupert and James if they see that as the best way to preserve their investments.



Why would anyone want to "kill the goose that laid golden egg"? This might make sense to folks that hate Fox/News Corps, but to oust the man behind the curtain is not what investors would call smart.
 
I dont think people in America understand the situation for Newscorp.

Newscorp owns 39% of BSkyB. BSkyB contributes to a large portion of the over all Newscorp profits. With the "not fit" ruling, Rupert Murdoch risks loosing those 39%.. depending if the regulators pulls the sending license based on the ruling. This will cause a large profit decrease in Newscorp... The Cable division, where the BSKYB part is under, stood for almost 900 million dollars in profit... and of that half came from BSKYB.

Now the question is.. will the Newscorp board sacrifice Murdoch to avoid loosing out on the BSkyB profit and a possible future 100% buyout. I say.. they will when push comes to shove as they say.
 
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This leads me to believe that they want the entire network shut down, and only for political reasons.

That's what it's always been about... Hell, they even invented a phony "media watchdog" organization who's specific purpose is to destroy Fox News. Any media outlets that don't subscribe to the liberal/democratic narritive, must be silenced.
 
That's what it's always been about... Hell, they even invented a phony "media watchdog" organization who's specific purpose is to destroy Fox News. Any media outlets that don't subscribe to the liberal/democratic narritive, must be silenced.

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
 
That must be it... I guess Media Matters is just a manifestation of my paranoid delusions.


I never visited any liberal sites...Ive never been to moveon.org or mediamatters....I used to go to Drudge a few times daily...now I go to huffington post and drudge...both are slanted...drudge FAR MORE so than huff post and to be honest...drudge doesnt have squat on it...he doesnt report much hes just a blog with a big right wing slant.....huff is slanted left...but it does report on actual events...I dont see any where else...so ive incorporated that into my daily read...along with left and right wing outlets...I want both sides...not one anymore
 
That must be it... I guess Media Matters is just a manifestation of my paranoid delusions.

Actually.. considering Media Matters targets others than Fox News, then yea you are paranoid.
 
That must be it... I guess Media Matters is just a manifestation of my paranoid delusions.

No Media Matters is a real organisation but the problem comes from the statement about how its "specific purpose is to destroy Fox News". Rather its "specific purpose" is to call out all manner of falsehoods and bias in American media, not specifically FoxNews.

for example: Front page post from the Media Matters site May 07, 2012 10:56 am ET
Meet The Press' David Gregory Pushes Absurd NY Post Talking Point

Like the song goes: Paranoia runs deep and into your mind, lies will seep.
 
No Media Matters is a real organisation but the problem comes from the statement about how its "specific purpose is to destroy Fox News". Rather its "specific purpose" is to call out all manner of falsehoods and bias in American media, not specifically FoxNews.

for example: Front page post from the Media Matters site May 07, 2012 10:56 am ET
Meet The Press' David Gregory Pushes Absurd NY Post Talking Point

Like the song goes: Paranoia runs deep and into your mind, lies will seep.

FYI The Post is a News Corp. property
 
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