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Rupert Murdoch's Fox broadcast licences targeted by US ethics group

Gimmesometruth said:
His organization was tapping the phones of UK citizens, Members of Parliament, the Royal Family. The corruption went right to the top editors, to his son. For years Murdoch moved members of his former staff into positions within the London Police which helped in the cover-up of the tapping. It was all done to feed his UK tabloid empire with gossip and to extend his political influence with the threat of smear. Murdoch loved the tabloids, the gossip game, he started his empire with those seed businesses, now it might be his end.

He did it to himself, your argument is that it was done to him......that is not how it is.



Murdoch’s Scandal | FRONTLINE | PBS
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I just watched the FRONTLINE show on him: excellent!!
 
jet57 said:
Murdoch's red headed girl friend was arrested. Murdoch's boy has quit, the investigations are still going on, and Fox News is next: count on it.
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Fox News, in the US, will not be shut down.
 
Arbo said:
You've got to be a freaking magician to come up with that as what I was saying. Good grief.

I wonder if you get as upset when the government does the same things you say he did, and you know damn well they do. The president was just saying recently it should be easier to get information from the phone companies... man, he makes the previous president look like a child when it comes to invasion of privacy of public citizens.
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"I have really no direct counter to your points about Murdoch and the criminal activities of his media empire which is the cause of his downfall, so I am going to toss out some unrelated red herrings and straw to see if I can wiggle my way out of this embarrassing position I have put myself in......wha-wha-wha...."
 
Billy the Kid said:
Fox News, in the US, will not be shut down.
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Well, it just might cause some major reorganization since the criminal activities still being uncovered in the UK (and some over here) can have an impact on Newscorp in the US.
 
So, Fox News has tapped phones huh?

Funny, I didn't read that anywhere.
 
Grim17 said:
So, Fox News has tapped phones huh?

Funny, I didn't read that anywhere.
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"Legal experts note that allegations that police at Scotland Yard received payoffs in return for information risk placing News Corp. in violation of the U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which makes it a crime for American firms to bribe foreign officials. The U.S. Justice Department is investigating.

Likewise, the FBI has begun a preliminary probe into a shocking - but unsubstantiated - report in the U.K. media that Murdoch's tabloid reporters sought to hack into the phones of victims of the 9/11 attacks. There are other American tentacles to the scandal, including a claim that actor Jude Law was in the U.S. when Murdoch journalists tried to hack his phone, and a hacking allegation reported in the New York Times about an obscure American Murdoch subsidiary and a business rival."
 
Gimmesometruth said:
"Legal experts note that allegations that police at Scotland Yard received payoffs in return for information risk placing News Corp. in violation of the U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which makes it a crime for American firms to bribe foreign officials. The U.S. Justice Department is investigating.

Likewise, the FBI has begun a preliminary probe into a shocking - but unsubstantiated - report in the U.K. media that Murdoch's tabloid reporters sought to hack into the phones of victims of the 9/11 attacks. There are other American tentacles to the scandal, including a claim that actor Jude Law was in the U.S. when Murdoch journalists tried to hack his phone, and a hacking allegation reported in the New York Times about an obscure American Murdoch subsidiary and a business rival."
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That isnt evidence that Fox News tapped phones now is it.
 
Billy the Kid said:
Fox News, in the US, will not be shut down.
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When all is said and done, and the Republicans have received their thrashing this November, and the British have torn apart and buired Rupert Murdoch, then Fox News will have been reduced to a simple little tabloid show that no one watches, and that will of course be the end of Roger Ailes and his Fox News.
 
Grim17 said:
So, Fox News has tapped phones huh?

Funny, I didn't read that anywhere.
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(chuckle)

Look; Rupert Murdoch has opend up a hole that is going to be pounded until his entire empire splits apart: we just haven't started on him over here yet. He is an American citizen you know, so once we've found the grip - the wolverines are going to be let loose. The entire world has had it with guys like him: it's pornography.
 
jet57 said:
When all is said and done, and the Republicans have received their thrashing this November, and the British have torn apart and buired Rupert Murdoch, then Fox News will have been reduced to a simple little tabloid show that no one watches, and that will of course be the end of Roger Ailes and his Fox News.
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Once Fox News has gone what will people be watching? Do you feel the absence of Fox News would create a void that the BBC might possibly fill?
 
Fox News is not gonna disappear, there are too many billionaire types who will take up the reins if, and that should be IF, Rupert and his son are found guilty of criminal activities. Rupert and James may lose control of NewsCorp but don't forget the second largest shareholder is Prince Al-Waleed Bin Talal who could quite easily buy out Rupert and the other Murdochs - he's got more money than they have.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Well, it just might cause some major reorganization since the criminal activities still being uncovered in the UK (and some over here) can have an impact on Newscorp in the US.
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Fox News will still be on the air in the US. I know you don't like that idea, but learn to accept it and you'll be better for it. ;)
 
Arbo said:
The people that want to pull his broadcast license.

It really shouldn't be that hard to follow.
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It isn't. That's why I was curious about the novel take which appeared unaware of the fact that Murdoch and his fitness or otherwise is the topic.
 
Manc Skipper said:
It isn't. That's why I was curious about the novel take which appeared unaware of the fact that Murdoch and his fitness or otherwise is the topic.
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British leftists have a thing against Rupert Murdoch and anyone, or anything, which doesn't reflect the views of the BBC and the Guardian. That's largely why they're all so seriously misinformed or uniformed.
 
Grant said:
Once Fox News has gone what will people be watching? Do you feel the absence of Fox News would create a void that the BBC might possibly fill?
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Here's what I'd like to see: since there is without doubt a left leaning media, I'd really like to see a conservative media outlet(s) that didn't lie and knowningly pass on incendiary and inaccurate information. They should just tell the same stories as the left, and add accurate and researched commentary and discussion, so that centrists can make intelligent decisions and partisans can argure from positions of strength.

I will say that as far as strength goes, the left has to be much more cafreful about what they report and how they report it, becasue of the scrutiny of rightist commentary and reporting. Fox News et al on the other hand just embarrass themselves and those of the right-wing bent have nothing else out there to hang their hats on. So matter how sincere a right-winger may be, he gets lumped in with the mob.

I know several right-wingers personally, and we have very enlightening and rousing discussions based on fact. There just is no media outlet that offers same. The right-wing partisans won't debate on left-wing radio or TV because they get whipped like leather on a wood post. Becaaauuuuse they don't present their cases from a position of fact and thereby strength. The only conservative I have respect for is George Will. I think he's great!

I think that's too bad.
 
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jet57 said:
When all is said and done, and the Republicans have received their thrashing this November, and the British have torn apart and buired Rupert Murdoch, then Fox News will have been reduced to a simple little tabloid show that no one watches, and that will of course be the end of Roger Ailes and his Fox News.
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:lamo . . . . . .
 
jet57 said:
Hey, if you can't comment intelligently, then go ahead; laugh like a fool.
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:lamo . . . . :lamo


What is there to comment on? You've made a statement you can't back up with fact - just hopes and dreams.
 
jet57 said:
Here's what I'd like to see: since there is without doubt a left leaning media, I'd really like to see a conservative media outlet(s) that didn't lie and knowningly pass on incendiary and inaccurate information. They should just tell the same stories as the left, and add accurate and researched commentary and discussion, so that centrists can make intelligent decisions and partisans can argure from positions of strength.

I will say that as far as strength goes, the left has to be much more cafreful about what they report and how they report it, becasue of the scrutiny of rightist commentary and reporting. Fox News et al on the other hand just embarrass themselves and those of the right-wing bent have nothing else out there to hang their hats on. So matter how sincere a right-winger may be, he gets lumped in with the mob.

I know several right-wingers personally, and we have very enlightening and rousing discussions based on fact. There just is no media outlet that offers same. The right-wing partisans won't debate on left-wing radio or TV because they get whipped like leather on a wood post. Becaaauuuuse they don't present their cases from a position of fact and thereby strength. The only conservative I have respect for is George Will. I think he's great!

I think that's too bad.
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Fox news is right there in the middle and should be watched by everyone who wants to broaden their knowledge.
 
Grant said:
Once Fox News has gone what will people be watching? Do you feel the absence of Fox News would create a void that the BBC might possibly fill?
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I don't know what they'll watch. I know that shows like Democracy Now, although left wing, report very accurate material with award wining reporters. Bill Moyers has a show on PBS (where democracy Now can be see as well), and Bill offers doesn't report anything he doesn't research first either. I would hope that the right-wing could create a news program that offers their perspective without all the stupid drama that Fox News drivels daily.
 
Manc Skipper said:
The US has laws regarding fitness to run a company too... American rightie-tighties usually love the Daily Heil, it's not leftist by any stretch of the imagination!

" ...Rupert Murdoch must have his U.S. broadcast licences revoked following the UK parliamentary select committee's highly critical report on phone hacking, a watchdog has said.
Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) is demanding that the Federal Communications Commission pull the plug on News Corporation's 27 Fox channels.
The move should go ahead, said CREW's director Melanie Sloan, because Murdoch has 'clearly failed the character test embedded within U.S. media law'.
Under FCC rules, only people with 'good character who serve the public interest' can run broadcast frequencies... "


Read more: Ethics watchdog demands action as UK MPs say Rupert Murdoch 'not fit' to run major firm | Mail Online
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Meanwhile MSNBC is perfectly fine I suppose....:roll:


j-mac
 
Arbo said:
Do you try to push everything off topic with non-related comments, or just this topic?
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When you hate America like that, irrational comments just come flying out with zero control.
 
j-mac said:
Meanwhile MSNBC is perfectly fine I suppose....:roll:


j-mac
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I don't know, does its owner overlook the hacking of a dead child's phone, and have weekly meetings with your president?
 
Manc Skipper said:
I don't know, does its owner overlook the hacking of a dead child's phone, and have weekly meetings with your president?
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If the child is already dead then how is this hurting him? Is it a matter of ethics to you........if so then MSNBC has done far worse on many occassions.
 
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