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Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

your grade for that atrociously inept repy, which failed to addresses the questions posed, is F

You're the forum assessor, grader and critiquer? An affirmative action appointee, no doubt. Claiming endangered species status by the looks of your avator. An "F" from a beneficiary of "positive discrimination" policies? Priceless.
 
Am I to understand that no Cherokee families were resettled in Oklahoma?

I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.. There are many Americans who have some indian ancestry.. which doesn't qualify them for "Affirmative Action".. but there is no cause to deny their heritage.

When did you research her ancestry?
The entire idiocy of all exchanges on this issue is that there are few things so easily attacked and so awkwardly defended.
 
The entire idiocy of all exchanges on this issue is that there are few things so easily attacked and so awkwardly defended.

Thing is, this is awkwardly attacked in the first place. As I said, it's all weaksauce to the max... as evidenced by the fact that the attackers have resorted to name-calling and complete bull****ting just to hold onto such a ridiculous political offensive.
 
No. Germans have high cheekbones too...is that racist? It's true Cherokee have high cheekbones. Sioux Indians have distinct facial features as well (beautiful bone structure)and many Indians have no facial/body hair..is that racist?

You mean grandaddy could have been...gasp....GERMAN?!?!
 
Thing is, this is awkwardly attacked in the first place. As I said, it's all weaksauce to the max... as evidenced by the fact that the attackers have resorted to name-calling and complete bull****ting just to hold onto such a ridiculous political offensive.
Who is being derided on this thread? I am serious, but I suspect you might lack the grasp of the obvious. If you were serious about helping Dizzy Lizzie Warren, you would abandon this thread forthwith; but then I expect you might not have the cognitive powers.
 
Am I to understand that no Cherokee families were resettled in Oklahoma?

I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.. There are many Americans who have some indian ancestry.. which doesn't qualify them for "Affirmative Action".. but there is no cause to deny their heritage.

When did you research her ancestry?

I realise I'm late to the game on this thread, and don't wish to get in the middle of a fight, however, the Cherokee themselves are pissed at Warren for her baseless claim and have announced she does not belong to them. She initially made the assertion to gain benefit, advantage, in the her university application and subsequent academic, then political career. It was a false claim.

When did she know? Doesn't matter, it's her behavior now that is sinking her. She knows she's not, so she should admit her error promptly and take her medicine. But she isn't doing that, she's falling back on lame excuses, delay and my favorite, "I feel Cherokee".
 

No other tribe was more homogenized by the anglo culture... so much so that Cherokee were farmers by and large and had adopted the practice of having black slaves too. They did everything that was told they had to do to assimilate but what it boiled down to was that gold and other rare minerals were found in the lower Appalachia so they had to go.

Here's the timeline:


 
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and when you fill out those personal information forms, the ones that ask for your ethnicity, i am certain that when you check 'white' you are able to prove with 100% accuracy that you are 100% white. [/s] but then, no one ever asks for such proof. the proof you now deem so essential

For ME personally, yes I (and others in my 'clan') have documented my (our) lineage irrefutably back to 1580, certainly available upon request…but that is just me.
 
No other tribe was more homogenized by the anglo culture... so much so that Cherokee were farmers by and large and had adopted the practice of having black slaves too. They did everything that was told they had to do to assimilate but what it boiled down to was that gold and other rare minerals were found in the lower Appalachia so they had to go.
Like I said, the weakness of your argument is the weakness of your argument. But by all means, carry on.
 
Originally Posted by justabubba
and when you fill out those personal information forms, the ones that ask for your ethnicity, i am certain that when you check 'white' you are able to prove with 100% accuracy that you are 100% white. [/s] but then, no one ever asks for such proof. the proof you now deem so essential

I fill out "Other" and then list all the elements of my ancestry. I've realised for most of my life that I am a mutt, Heinz 57. Most Americans are.
 
Like I said, the weakness of your argument is the weakness of your argument. But by all means, carry on.

And this has to do with what you quoted of me how?

This is how bad your argument is. You don't even know what you are saying other than, "I hate Elizabeth Warren and I don't know why!"
 
I realise I'm late to the game on this thread, and don't wish to get in the middle of a fight, however, the Cherokee themselves are pissed at Warren for her baseless claim and have announced she does not belong to them. She initially made the assertion to gain benefit, advantage, in the her university application and subsequent academic, then political career. It was a false claim.

When did she know? Doesn't matter, it's her behavior now that is sinking her. She knows she's not, so she should admit her error promptly and take her medicine. But she isn't doing that, she's falling back on lame excuses, delay and my favorite, "I feel Cherokee".

She never claimed her Indian heritage on any of her admission or employment documents.. so they are being foolish, IMO.

I am NO expert, but I think you have to be 1/16th or less.

This is just a shabby politically motivated attack.
 
Who is being derided on this thread? I am serious, but I suspect you might lack the grasp of the obvious. If you were serious about helping Dizzy Lizzie Warren, you would abandon this thread forthwith; but then I expect you might not have the cognitive powers.

I have this feeling that you almost broke your brain trying to fit the word "cognitive" into your sentence.

Let's start over to see how strong your argument is... What's your beef with Elizabeth Warren? Or would you prefer to continue with the childish name calling as the basis of your point?
 
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I have this feeling that you almost broke your brain trying to fit the word "cognitive" into your sentence.

Let's start over to see how strong your argument is... What's your beef with Elizabeth Warren? Or would you prefer to continue with the childish name calling as the basis of your point?
You're joking, right?
 
I realise I'm late to the game on this thread, and don't wish to get in the middle of a fight, however, the Cherokee themselves are pissed at Warren for her baseless claim and have announced she does not belong to them. She initially made the assertion to gain benefit, advantage, in the her university application and subsequent academic, then political career. It was a false claim.

When did she know? Doesn't matter, it's her behavior now that is sinking her. She knows she's not, so she should admit her error promptly and take her medicine. But she isn't doing that, she's falling back on lame excuses, delay and my favorite, "I feel Cherokee".

We've already been over this...3 Cherokee members showed up at the protest. 3. And there are members who dont even care.
 
No other tribe was more homogenized by the anglo culture... so much so that Cherokee were farmers by and large and had adopted the practice of having black slaves too. They did everything that was told they had to do to assimilate but what it boiled down to was that gold and other rare minerals were found in the lower Appalachia so they had to go.

Here's the timeline:



Ye.. that's right.. and A Jackson was the only president who defied the US Supreme Court which ruled they were a sovereign nation.. He told the court to keep them there if they could and he told Georgians to light a fire under them and they will leave.

And ... the Cherokee had helped him win the Battle of Horseshoe Bend.

Its not a proud moment in American history..
 
You're joking, right?

Oh come on Meathead... I mean, this was you right?

Meathead said:
so easily attacked and so awkwardly defended

It's just so easy that you are already trying to run away. LOL!
 
Ye.. that's right.. and A Jackson was the only president who defied the US Supreme Court which ruled they were a sovereign nation.. He told the court to keep them there if they could and he told Georgians to light a fire under them and they will leave.

And ... the Cherokee had helped him win the Battle of Horseshoe Bend.

Its not a proud moment in American history..

Yep... here's the supposed famous quote Andrew Jackson said of the Supreme Court ruling that said the Cherokee could stay.


"John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"​


All this after Jackson allied with the Cherokee on the battlefield to fight the Seminole. What a betrayer prick he was.
 
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Yep... here's the supposed famous quote Andrew Jackson said of the Supreme Court ruling that said the Cherokee could stay.


"John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"​


All this after Jackson allied with the Cherokee on the battlefield to fight the Seminole. What a betrayer prick he was.

No question he was a prick..........
 
No question he was a prick..........
In his time he was a conqueror. He was a prick and a lot of other things but, in fair play as a leader in American History: there is little doubt about his stature.

For those of you that disagree, a history of the US, or even the world might help.
 
In his time he was a conqueror. He was a prick and a lot of other things but, in fair play as a leader in American History: there is little doubt about his stature.

For those of you that disagree, a history of the US, or even the world might help.


He's known for four things.


1) Killing indians
2) Fighting the battle of New Olreans against orders and after the war of 1812 had ended
3) Trail of tears
4) Dismantling the central bank​


I'll bet that's a lot more A. Jackson history that you could pull off the top of your head.
 
We could use that part today.


j-mac

I'd like to go the other way with it and nationalize the fed and put it under the authority of the congress which constitutionally has the power of the purse. Then it can be audited all the time and we'd have pressures on those who print the money rather than having it privatized and out of our reach.
 
He's known for four things.


1) Killing indians
2) Fighting the battle of New Olreans against orders and after the war of 1812 had ended
3) Trail of tears
4) Dismantling the central bank​


I'll bet that's a lot more A. Jackson history that you could pull off the top of your head.
Are you really that thick. I am not a great fan, but his performance, except for a dogmatic hacks is historically deemed great or near great. Btw, this seems like it's goning to be one of these inane threads where posters continue till kingdom cone.

If you come up with anything relevant I might respond ( 11:00 PM here)
 
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