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Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

Eighty Deuce said:
Again. It is not about being an "enrolled member". It is to claim one is Native American.
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At what point would you find that acceptable? 1/2? 3/4?

I guess the way I see it, if you're an enrolled member, that's good enough. She didn't, so there you go. Fact is, NOBODY NOTICED UNTIL A REPUBLICAN WAS IN DANGER OF LOSING AN ELECTION. What does that tell you?
 
rocket88 said:
At what point would you find that acceptable? 1/2? 3/4?

I guess the way I see it, if you're an enrolled member, that's good enough. She didn't, so there you go. Fact is, NOBODY NOTICED UNTIL A REPUBLICAN WAS IN DANGER OF LOSING AN ELECTION. What does that tell you?
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LOL ... maybe like W's fabricated National Guard AWOL stuff ? ;)

Its being noticed, and reported now, because Warren has volunteered herself into the political community as a candidate. More scrutiny comes with that turf ;)
 
AdamT said:
And yet, you can't seem to come up with a single example. It's all just right wing bile.
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I don't owe you an example. There's an idiotic statist speach she issued last year using a very popular theory amongst statists that I tore apart earlier on this board, you can look it up. That simplistic asanine speach was enough.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
LOL ... maybe like W's fabricated National Guard AWOL stuff ? ;)

Its being noticed, and reported now, because Warren has volunteered herself into the political community as a candidate. More scrutiny comes with that turf ;)
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Pretty much like it.
 
LaMidRighter said:
She is an idiot. Her assertion is that everyone is at a disadvantage because the risk takers don't get taxed enough, she is a bull **** artist with no market credibility.
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So now the word du jour for the upper 1% is "risk takers?" LOL, mkay.
 
Middleground said:
So now the word du jour for the upper 1% is "risk takers?" LOL, mkay.
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Anyone who opens a business is a risk taker, anyone who enjoys the safety of the paycheck that is cut from that business is an employee. Warren wasn't attacking just the 1% when she gave that hate speech, she was attacking employers and frankly it sickens me that people like her are given any credibility. I was a small class for a while and frankly I felt attacked by her speech, she is welcome to go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
 
LaMidRighter said:
Anyone who opens a business is a risk taker, anyone who enjoys the safety of the paycheck that is cut from that business is an employee. Warren wasn't attacking just the 1% when she gave that hate speech, she was attacking employers and frankly it sickens me that people like her are given any credibility. I was a small class for a while and frankly I felt attacked by her speech, she is welcome to go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
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The rhetoric is strong in this one.
 
Geesh - wow.

I don't think it's right to taut your race at all for any perceived benefit it'll bring you: people shouldn't have to define their selves based on their ancestry and it shouldn't give them a leg up in something such as politics.
 
LaMidRighter said:
She is an idiot. Her assertion is that everyone is at a disadvantage because the risk takers don't get taxed enough, she is a bull **** artist with no market credibility.
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She is, in fact, a brilliant, self-made woman who has worked in the private sector, academia, and in government, while raising two children. For most of her career she has been an advocate for the middle class. She has been extremely successful at every level.
 
AdamT said:
She is, in fact, a brilliant, self-made woman who has worked in the private sector, academia, and in government, while raising two children. For most of her career she has been an advocate for the middle class. She has been extremely successful at every level.
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That is pretty much what I know about her as well. She is a champion of the middle class and as far as I can tell, she is not bought by anyone.
 
LaMidRighter said:
Anyone who opens a business is a risk taker, anyone who enjoys the safety of the paycheck that is cut from that business is an employee. Warren wasn't attacking just the 1% when she gave that hate speech, she was attacking employers and frankly it sickens me that people like her are given any credibility. I was a small class for a while and frankly I felt attacked by her speech, she is welcome to go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
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I think you have misconstrued her in a big bad way. She's certainly not anti-business, so I am not sure where you get that. :confused:
 
I don't know squat about the woman. What I have learned in this thread is that conservatives hate her (for no substantiated reason as of now), liberals love her because she has a record of being an advocate for the middle class, which they substantiate by quoting her record and her biography.

Hmm... no substantiation provided versus substantiation provided. I guess I'll vote with the liberals on this one. Warren rocks. :)

Seriously, I know nothing about her personally, but I'd suggest the conservatives come up with some legitimate, demonstrable reasons about why Warren is the worst thing ever to rise up from the depths of hell. From a clueless observers' prospective, it's just coming across as "Yikes, democrat, must...hate..." :shrug:
 
DiAnna said:
I don't know squat about the woman. What I have learned in this thread is that conservatives hate her (for no substantiated reason as of now), liberals love her because she has a record of being an advocate for the middle class, which they substantiate by quoting her record and her biography.
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Conservatives hate her because she is going up against the original TPer to get elected, Scott Brown.

Liberals love her for the same reason.
 
rocket88 said:
Conservatives hate her because she is going up against the original TPer to get elected, Scott Brown.

Liberals love her for the same reason.
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Not me.

I love her because she is genuine, passionate, smart and for the people.
 
DiAnna said:
I don't know squat about the woman. What I have learned in this thread is that conservatives hate her (for no substantiated reason as of now), liberals love her because she has a record of being an advocate for the middle class, which they substantiate by quoting her record and her biography.

Hmm... no substantiation provided versus substantiation provided. I guess I'll vote with the liberals on this one. Warren rocks. :)

Seriously, I know nothing about her personally, but I'd suggest the conservatives come up with some legitimate, demonstrable reasons about why Warren is the worst thing ever to rise up from the depths of hell. From a clueless observers' prospective, it's just coming across as "Yikes, democrat, must...hate..." :shrug:
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Just a little tidbit about her that I think pretty much describes the person she seems to be. From Wiki:

In a 2007 interview, Warren spoke of the experience that led her to devote her career to work that would eventually lead her to become an authority on the economic pressures facing the American middle class. In 1978 Congress had passed a law that made it easier for companies and individuals to declare bankruptcy and Warren decided "to set out to prove they were all a bunch of cheaters... I was going to expose these people who were taking advantage of the rest of us". However, she instead found that the vast majority of those in bankruptcy courts were from hardworking middle-class families: people who had lost their jobs or had family breakups or illnesses that had wiped out their savings. "It changed my vision," she said.[5]
 
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I'm not particularly fond of the woman ( I don't hate her though).... and my dislike stems from her dishonesty in her published study on medical bankruptcies.. the study that is used by a lot of policy makers to set the rules for health insurance.

now with this claim of her ancestry being "suspect", I can see that she has a general problem with honesty... well, at least she prioritizes agenda over honesty, anyways.
 
Thrilla said:
I'm not particularly fond of the woman ( I don't hate her though).... and my dislike stems from her dishonesty in her published study on medical bankruptcies.. the study that is used by a lot of policy makers to set the rules for health insurance.

now with this claim of her ancestry being "suspect", I can see that she has a general problem with honesty... well, at least she prioritizes agenda over honesty, anyways.
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What is dishonest about her bankruptcy research?
 
Middleground said:
Not me.

I love her because she is genuine, passionate, smart and for the people.
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Reminds me of what folks said about Obama four years ago. And what an inept fraud that jackeass has turned out to be.

Seems to me Warren is fake, a liar, and able to con the people.
 
DiAnna said:
I don't know squat about the woman. What I have learned in this thread is that conservatives hate her (for no substantiated reason as of now), liberals love her because she has a record of being an advocate for the middle class, which they substantiate by quoting her record and her biography.

Hmm... no substantiation provided versus substantiation provided. I guess I'll vote with the liberals on this one. Warren rocks. :)

Seriously, I know nothing about her personally, but I'd suggest the conservatives come up with some legitimate, demonstrable reasons about why Warren is the worst thing ever to rise up from the depths of hell. From a clueless observers' prospective, it's just coming across as "Yikes, democrat, must...hate..." :shrug:
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Di, I am so tired of breaking down that moron Warren that I just don't have the energy to do it again. She was for TARP(failed), that turd of a credit protection bill that actually raised payor rates, she made a juvenile pro-tax argument using a poli-sci 101 argument that was taught only as a "don't use this" example at the university I attended, she is a statist and a collectivist. When one starts with the premise that all businesses are screwing people and profits are bad they are automatically useless in my book.
 
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