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Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

Actually that is not true.. Her applications are still on file and have been published.

Yeah and people dont look that up.

As I said it looks like she did.

Shes in the terrible position of looking like shes without integrity on this issue or she looks like a joke.
Neither one helps her getting elected.

Its never the lie, its the cover up and prevarication of the lie that burns you. Thats why shes getting clobbered right now.
 
Are you really that thick. I am not a great fan, but his performance, except for a dogmatic hacks is historically deemed great or near great. Btw, this seems like it's goning to be one of these inane threads where posters continue till kingdom cone.

If you come up with anything relevant I might respond ( 11:00 PM here)

You've not made a single case for anything in this thread. All you do is threaten that one day you might take a valid source-backed stance on something.

*protip... name calling isn't an adequate debating response. Just to let you know.

Meanwhile I'll just count on you not making a point about anything while continuing to run away when confronted.
 
He's known for four things.


1) Killing indians
2) Fighting the battle of New Olreans against orders and after the war of 1812 had ended
3) Trail of tears
4) Dismantling the central bank​


I'll bet that's a lot more A. Jackson history that you could pull off the top of your head.

A bit of a pantload, but item 2 is complete nonsense. He did not fight it against orders. No one in the US new that the Treaty of Ghent had been signed until after the battle, and it was the Brits who attacked his defensive position outside New Orleans. Further, the Brits actually won a battle after the signing as well, the 2nd Battle of Fort Bowyer. Jackson received The Thanks of Congress and a specially struck gold medal from Congress.

But most importantly, we KNOW he caused no harm to any of Fauxcahontas Warren's Indian ancestors ;)
 
You've not made a single case for anything in this thread. All you do is threaten that one day you might take a valid source-backed stance on something.

*protip... name calling isn't an adequate debating response. Just to let you know.

Meanwhile I'll just count on you not making a point about anything while continuing to run away when confronted.
You have no idea what you're talking about?! WTF are you?
 
You have no idea what you're talking about?! WTF are you?


More running away.

LOL. You say the same thing over and over. As soon as someone asks you to clarify what you say, you throw names and then run away with nonsensical posts like this over and over.
 
A bit of a pantload, but item 2 is complete nonsense. He did not fight it against orders.

His march to the site was against orders.


Andrew Jackson’s next assignment was to go to New Orleans to help fortify and protect the cities from British invasion. During his march he was stopped by General Wilkinson who was concerned about how bloodthirsty Jackson was. Andrew Jackson did not like to be stopped and began marching again against orders.​


No one in the US new that the Treaty of Ghent had been signed until after the battle, and it was the Brits who attacked his defensive position outside New Orleans. Further, the Brits actually won a battle after the signing as well, the 2nd Battle of Fort Bowyer. Jackson received The Thanks of Congress and a specially struck gold medal from Congress.

But most importantly, we KNOW he caused no harm to any of Fauxcahontas Warren's Indian ancestors ;)


Except for trail of tears and all that stuff you mean right?
 
His march to the site was against orders.


Andrew Jackson’s next assignment was to go to New Orleans to help fortify and protect the cities from British invasion. During his march he was stopped by General Wilkinson who was concerned about how bloodthirsty Jackson was. Andrew Jackson did not like to be stopped and began marching again against orders.​

Except for trail of tears and all that stuff you mean right?

You are aware that Wilkinson was shown to be a lying jackass and a spy ? Needless to say, he was not reprimanded for disobeying imaginary orders. ;)

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What I'm aware of is that this thread is about Elizabeth Warren.
 
My ex husband is Jewish/Greek/Cherokee...the only way he can prove the Cherokee is by his looks and a picture of his great, great, great grandma(full blood)..same with our kids. They cant MAKE people prove their blood unless the person is applying for a roll number. They simply want her to prove it. And?

She never listed herself as a minority when she went to school. This is a NON issue.
Tell it to the Cherokee that are upset about it. For some reason they have their feathers in a knot over her claim. Funny how you so readily discount their concerns in your mindless rabid defense of party.
 
What I'm aware of is that this thread is about Elizabeth Warren.

My OP. And I like to smack down liberal nonsense when it pollutes my thread regardless. ;)
 
Tell it to the Cherokee that are upset about it. For some reason they have their feathers in a knot over her claim. Funny how you so readily discount their concerns in your mindless rabid defense of party.

It's such a non-issue that it's receiving no media coverage at all. No, wait--it is.
 
Tell it to the Cherokee that are upset about it. For some reason they have their feathers in a knot over her claim. Funny how you so readily discount their concerns in your mindless rabid defense of party.

How many Cherokee are upset? A half dozen or more?
 
How many Cherokee are upset? A half dozen or more?

Real Cherokee. Not to be confused with Fauxcohantas.

She's gonna get her ass whupped in November.
 
Originally Posted by Flippinfunky
My ex husband is Jewish/Greek/Cherokee...the only way he can prove the Cherokee is by his looks and a picture of his great, great, great grandma(full blood)..same with our kids. They cant MAKE people prove their blood unless the person is applying for a roll number. They simply want her to prove it. And?

She never listed herself as a minority when she went to school. This is a NON issue.

The certifying authority are the tribes themselves. If they accept you - you are. And anyone making the claim on a official federal or state application should be required to have proof.

The university she attended was under fire by the feds for the dearth of minority (especially native american) applicants/students. Elizabeth's fiction helped to allow them to show the feds they were good on that front.
 
How many Cherokee are upset? A half dozen or more?
Go to their website and ask them. More telling is how readily mindless hacks ignore their concerns in blind defense of party. Not shocking...considering that party is ALL that matters to them. But telling nonetheless.
 
Heres the proverbial 'bone' I'll toss out there...the fact is this SHOULDNT be an issue. It should have been one and done a long time ago. I am always amazed at how foolishly politicians handle 'scandals'. Warren should have come out IMMEDIATELY and said..."wow...hey...totally my bad. When I did it I did so because I truly believed it is part of my ancestry. I see that people are upset and very much understand why they are upset. Please know I meant NO harm or disrespect and accept full responsibility and I appeal to YOUR rich heritage and traditions of forgiveness. Thank you." She should have offered a face to face meeting, came out holding hands...done and done.

Then every time it was brought up again she should have agreed with the person. Yes...I know...that was a mistake. Very much apologize. Now...about the campaign....

Politicians tend to do make things worse. Clinton did it. Edwards did it. Romney is doing it with his ever changing positions.
 
You are aware that Wilkinson was shown to be a lying jackass and a spy ? Needless to say, he was not reprimanded for disobeying imaginary orders. ;)

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Oh look, you googled up a book you didn't read as evidence that you know some history.

He was an opportunist, just like Jackson and of course no one is going to punish an officer who led his troops to victory. Jackson wanted to earn political clout by going to battle. He was an opportunist too. Wilkinson knew this and told him not to go to New Orleans. Most likely so that he wouldn't get out-shined by Jackson politically.

Treasonist spy though huh? That's why he was jailed and executed right? Oh wait... that didn't happen.
 
Go to their website and ask them. More telling is how readily mindless hacks ignore their concerns in blind defense of party. Not shocking...considering that party is ALL that matters to them. But telling nonetheless.

come on vance. This **** was decades old crap dug up out of nowhere to feign outrage today by a particular party. She has a thin line of heritage and somehow this is some form of a scandal? Not only that, it's such a horrible scandal that it supplants policy discussion in the race?
 
Heres the proverbial 'bone' I'll toss out there...the fact is this SHOULDNT be an issue. It should have been one and done a long time ago. I am always amazed at how foolishly politicians handle 'scandals'. Warren should have come out IMMEDIATELY and said..."wow...hey...totally my bad. When I did it I did so because I truly believed it is part of my ancestry. I see that people are upset and very much understand why they are upset. Please know I meant NO harm or disrespect and accept full responsibility and I appeal to YOUR rich heritage and traditions of forgiveness. Thank you." She should have offered a face to face meeting, came out holding hands...done and done.

Well if it comes out that she was wrong I totally agree. People are talking about this like it's done and matter of fact and all the evidence is on the table and she was wrong. I've not read anywhere that this is the case.

Then every time it was brought up again she should have agreed with the person. Yes...I know...that was a mistake. Very much apologize. Now...about the campaign....

Politicians tend to do make things worse. Clinton did it. Edwards did it. Romney is doing it with his ever changing positions.

I've yet to see what was done wrong... but I agree that the cover-up usually is worse than the offense when it comes to politicians.
 
Oh look, you googled up a book you didn't read as evidence that you know some history.

He was an opportunist, just like Jackson and of course no one is going to punish an officer who led his troops to victory. Jackson wanted to earn political clout by going to battle. He was an opportunist too. Wilkinson knew this and told him not to go to New Orleans. Most likely so that he wouldn't get out-shined by Jackson politically.

Treasonist spy though huh? That's why he was jailed and executed right? Oh wait... that didn't happen.

I googled an image as I knew the history, which you did not know. Much of what we know of WIlkinson's treachary came to light after he died, although many of his peers suspected he was scum. Look it all up. He was a spy for Spain. He was on their payroll while a general officer for the US.

I have forgotten more history than you will ever learn. And it ain't close.
 
I googled an image as I knew the history, which you did not know. Much of what we know of WIlkinson's treachary came to light after he died, although many of his peers suspected he was scum. Look it all up. He was a spy for Spain. He was on their payroll while a general officer for the US.

I have forgotten more history than you will ever learn. And it ain't close.

Rigggghhhhhtt. Which is why you've resorted to name calling Elizabeth in this thread. Because you know so much. :lamo
 
Rigggghhhhhtt. Which is why you've resorted to name calling Elizabeth in this thread. Because you know so much. :lamo



Lions and tigers and bears .. Oh my !! I name-called Liz !!!! The horror !!!

And I know my history too ;)

She's a lying piece of crap.
 
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