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Mexico Seized 68,000 Guns Traceable to U.S.

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Gun trade will obviously increase criminal activity on both sides together with the flow of drugs and illegal immigrants.

(WASHINGTON) — The government said Thursday that 68,000 guns recovered by Mexican authorities in the past five years have been traced back to the United States.

The flood of tens of thousands of weapons underscores complaints from Mexico that the U.S. is responsible for arming the drug cartels plaguing its southern neighbor. Six years of violence between warring cartels have killed more than 47,000 people in Mexico.



Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2113232,00.html#ixzz1tBTcnsbf
 
Gun trade will obviously increase criminal activity on both sides together with the flow of drugs and illegal immigrants.

Yeah those federal laws preventing Americans from doing that or the Mexican laws that make said possession illegal are really effective. Combine that with all the fast and furious firearms and we have a real donkey screw. I guess no one has figured out that people who can import and export billions of dollars of blow can also traffic in firearms rather easily
 
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For more than a year, ATF has been reeling from accusations that some of its agents in Arizona were ordered by superiors to step aside rather than intercept illicit loads of weapons headed for Mexico.

So long as gun haters would use stories like this to piss on the 2nd Amendment, its always important to point out that new laws wouldn't have prevented this when the laws on the books are being ignored.

Why would the ATF superiors ever issue such an order?
 
Gun trade will obviously increase criminal activity on both sides together with the flow of drugs and illegal
immigrants.

I wonder how many of those guns are from the Fast and Furious operation?

Border control is a two way street.Its not just the US that is responsible for securing the US/Mexican border its also Mexico's responsibility too. I seriously ****en doubt that cartels are going through the check points with as ****load of guns. Has it occured to these idiots that if millions of people can sneak into the US then wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that millions of poeple can sneak into Mexico?

The 2nd amendment haters can eat a dick. Mexico's problem's with cartels do not warrant our elected officials ****ting on our constitutional rights.
 
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Most of these guns as documented are from defected Mex Army, that have joined up with cartels and taken their American made weapons given them by our government....NOT some shady actions taken by gun dealers.


j-mac
 
Certainly makes it obvious why operations like Fast & Furious were contemplated. Too bad they were run so poorly.
 
guns are getting there because the cartels want them.i know some peopledown in fort bliss and the majority of what they are finding are military grade weapons from foreign countries,weapons that cant be bought by civilians in the united states.

also take note if the us stopped 100% ofall gun trafficking to mexico,the crime wont stop,in south america the second largest manufacturor of black market untraceable guns,also known as brazil.the largest maker of untrackable guns is austria,which has been known for making counterfeit glocks and smuggling them to different countries for profit.

so its very safe to say us guns are not the only option for drug cartels,and creating any gun restrictions in america wont stop it at all.after all banning drugs obviously stopped drug users,banning liquor stopped people from drinking,and every other ban we have put into place has obviously worked:roll:
 
Gun trade will obviously increase criminal activity on both sides together with the flow of drugs and illegal immigrants.

So let's stop it by legalizing all recreational drugs so disputes among the recreational drug industry can be resolved by the legal system rather than by the use of lethal weapons.
 
Certainly makes it obvious why operations like Fast & Furious were contemplated. Too bad they were run so poorly.

F&F was a scheme to increase support for more gun laws directed against Americans. Its like the idiotic forward trace that the ATF did under clinton

the ATF would go to gunshops and record every sale of scary looking firearms. Not because the owner had been implicated in a crime. Not because the gun itself was used in a crime. Merely to create a database so when ATF toadies testified in congress they would say that "assault style weapons were traced far more than other guns" and the turds in the press would pretend that meant there was more criminal use of these guns. Fortunately, when the GOP congress took over, this sort of crap was reigned in by threats of budgetary cuts

BTW THe raid on the kooky Davidians was done right before ATF budget issues were up before congress-the ATF was trying to justify their existence so they staged this big raid hoping it would make them look useful
 
Certainly makes it obvious why operations like Fast & Furious were contemplated. Too bad they were run so poorly.

To place firearms in the hands of violent drug cartels? That makes sense to you?
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1060434024 said:
To place firearms in the hands of violent drug cartels? That makes sense to you?

Makes as much sense as giving Iran a nuke and saying its to help trace illegal nukes.
 
Certainly makes it obvious why operations like Fast & Furious were contemplated. Too bad they were run so poorly.

The obvious part was to go after the 2nd amendment. Nothing more.

How do you better 'run' a program that provides criminals with firearms?

Some seriously stupid stuff you posted...
 
In other news: US seized 68,000 lowest quality electronic parts traceable to Mexico.


In other news: Gibson Guitar is under scrutiny for donating to Obama opponents.

j-mac
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1060434024 said:
To place firearms in the hands of violent drug cartels? That makes sense to you?

To track and eliminate the source of the tens of thousands of guns illegally going from the U.S. to the murderous drug cartels. That doesn't make sense to you?
 
To track and eliminate the source of the tens of thousands of guns illegally going from the U.S. to the murderous drug cartels. That doesn't make sense to you?


Easy, take a look at the military contracts, and agreements for our government to supply the Mex Army....There you go....You're welcome.


j-mac
 
To track and eliminate the source of the tens of thousands of guns illegally going from the U.S. to the murderous drug cartels. That doesn't make sense to you?

thats great,but the atf doesnt like to list untackable guns,or how many guns come from illegal manufacterers,why you may ask,because they cant track them

great lets freak out over those guns and ignore the fact they can get them just as easily from brasil austria and nicaragua,oh and im sure former soviet states will sell them ak-47's because the cartels have the money
 
thats great,but the atf doesnt like to list untackable guns,or how many guns come from illegal manufacterers,why you may ask,because they cant track them

great lets freak out over those guns and ignore the fact they can get them just as easily from brasil austria and nicaragua,oh and im sure former soviet states will sell them ak-47's because the cartels have the money

I'm sure you have data to back up all those claims.
 
To track and eliminate the source of the tens of thousands of guns illegally going from the U.S. to the murderous drug cartels. That doesn't make sense to you?

why would drug dealers want castrated American semi autos when Chavez had the Russians build a AK factor in his country and the guns coming from there aren't traceable nor limited to semi auto?
 
I'm sure you have data to back up all those claims.

the ATF Cannot trace weapons not made in America. that is one of the things the anti gun clowns cannot figure out. Just because most of the Guns SUCCESSFULLY Traced by the ATF are american made doesn't mean that most of the GUNS USED BY THE NARCONISTAS came from the USA
 
the ATF Cannot trace weapons not made in America. that is one of the things the anti gun clowns cannot figure out. Just because most of the Guns SUCCESSFULLY Traced by the ATF are american made doesn't mean that most of the GUNS USED BY THE NARCONISTAS came from the USA

bravo,in years past they used tolist the number of untackable guns,but in recent yeaars stopped listing them
 
bravo,in years past they used tolist the number of untackable guns,but in recent yeaars stopped listing them

perish the thought-dishonesty from them?
 
So let's stop it by legalizing all recreational drugs so disputes among the recreational drug industry can be resolved by the legal system rather than by the use of lethal weapons.

Cigarettes are legal. There's still a black market for cigarettes.

The ilegal drug trade will never go away. The only thing that will change, is the reason for the drugs being illegal.
 
why would drug dealers want castrated American semi autos when Chavez had the Russians build a AK factor in his country and the guns coming from there aren't traceable nor limited to semi auto?

You'd have to ask them, but apparently they do.
 
the ATF Cannot trace weapons not made in America. that is one of the things the anti gun clowns cannot figure out. Just because most of the Guns SUCCESSFULLY Traced by the ATF are american made doesn't mean that most of the GUNS USED BY THE NARCONISTAS came from the USA

I assume you mean weapons not SOLD in America, yes?
 
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