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Man Beaten By Mob, Arrests Expected Today

I am confident that a crime was committed. There is no legal justification that I am aware of for what happened.
You don't know what happened, and you didn't get the message. Assuming things gets you in trouble...but then there are no repercussions here, so one can be a dumb as they like.
 
So the AA men that attacked these white men had nothing to do with race??? They just picked any random person to take their aggression out on and they just happened to be white? Could have been an Asian or another African American????

It seems they attacked him because he was an asshole. Nothing to do with race.

Still doesn't it make it right to put a man in the ICU because he's an asshole. In America, you can be the biggest asshole you want to be.
 
It seems they attacked him because he was an asshole. Nothing to do with race.....

if a gang of 20 black men beat up a white man, and only one of those black men suggests it had anything to do with skin color, that's poor evidence that the whole thing was racially motivated.

......unless one is going to argue that ANY time ANY black person commits ANY crime against a white person, its a racist hate-crime.
 
You know, using cases like this to get back at people is partly why there are such racial tensions. All I have been seeing for weeks is large chunks of the American populace using one instance after another asking for denunciations from each person in order to feel vindicated. It's just going back and forth is all.
 
In America, you can be the biggest asshole you want to be.
You know, perhaps that is almost a tautology. Thank God not all are opinionated assholes like ourselves, but there are a ****load of us.
 
This is, unfortunately, one of the most uninformed posts of late.

I'm not on TV saying its about race. Or in the headline news saying same.

But Obama is. And the other race pimps are. And scum in the CBC are. And the major news networks, who not only report it as such, but went and deceitfully edited evidence so as to foment it as a race issue.

I did not make this choice for it to be about "race". I did choose to not be ignorant, though. ;)

Show me a video clip or quote of somebody in the media or a political figure saying it's about race. I highly doubt Obama said that, and my guess is that you also think Obama is racist or something. That would be your own issue, not one concocted by the media and Al Sharpoton, and yet I manage to discuss this issue without believing it's about race. It's about justice, two grieving families, and making sure our legal system doesn't fail under public pressure.

It's ironic you call me uninformed. Saying it's about nothing but race affords you to ability to not look at the facts and live in a bubble of racial conspiracy.
 
Show me a video clip or quote of somebody in the media or a political figure saying it's about race. I highly doubt Obama said that, and my guess is that you also think Obama is racist or something. That would be your own issue, not one concocted by the media and Al Sharpoton, and yet I manage to discuss this issue without believing it's about race. It's about justice, two grieving families, and making sure our legal system doesn't fail under public pressure.

It's ironic you call me uninformed. Saying it's about nothing but race affords you to ability to not look at the facts and live in a bubble of racial conspiracy.
Good post, still I think you ignore a racial factor which permeates through these threads via the media. It should be about justice, as you said but indeed it is not that simple. You seem to discuss this while saying, and I quote - ...yet I manage to discuss this issue without believing it's about race.

Why would you have to "manage it"? Splitting hairs I suppose, but still.
 
So the AA men that attacked these white men had nothing to do with race??? They just picked any random person to take their aggression out on and they just happened to be white? Could have been an Asian or another African American????

People focus on race and see this as a racial issue, but there is a lot going on. There are more important issues to talk about and discuss surrounding this case. Getting angry and pissed off, and see it as nothing more than a racial issue is going to lead to racial tension, and racial tension will eventually lead to violence.
 
How bout this one?

Oklahoma Police Taser Bedridden 86-Year-Old Woman

"Bedridden and on oxygen, Lona Varner of El Reno, Oklahoma, was zapped by police using Taser guns after she acted in an “aggressive” manner in her bed. Officers showed up at Varner’s residence after her grandson, Lonnie Tinsley, called 911 seeking medical assistance for his grandmother. But instead of helping the 86-year-old woman, police officers Thomas Duran and Joseph Sandberg Tasered her, causing her to pass out. “Don’t Taze my granny!” Tinsley says he shouted at the officers, who also are accused of stepping on Varner’s oxygen hose."

AllGov - News - Oklahoma Police Taser Bedridden 86-Year-Old Woman
 
You know, using cases like this to get back at people is partly why there are such racial tensions. All I have been seeing for weeks is large chunks of the American populace using one instance after another asking for denunciations from each person in order to feel vindicated. It's just going back and forth is all.

People usually accuse black people of race baiting, but if whites are getting pissed off over this and are just seeing race and if that is the intention and mentality of the OP, then this thread is race baiting. You have white people acting like whites are the victims in this thread, saying that the arrest of Zimmerman is only because the legal system favors justice for black people and/or pressure from black people like Jackson and Sharpton, saying the Obama Admin gives preferable treatment to black people, Obama is racist, etc. Then you have black people acting like their race is the victim and they have to take justice into their own hands, and/or complain that the legal system works in favor of white people and that's why Zimmerman wasn't immediately arrested.

This thread and all of it is going round and round as you said. The racial tension people are experiencing is pretty obvious, and it's pretty obvious which posters and people are experiencing the most racial tension.
 
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How bout this one?

Oklahoma Police Taser Bedridden 86-Year-Old Woman

"Bedridden and on oxygen, Lona Varner of El Reno, Oklahoma, was zapped by police using Taser guns after she acted in an “aggressive” manner in her bed. Officers showed up at Varner’s residence after her grandson, Lonnie Tinsley, called 911 seeking medical assistance for his grandmother. But instead of helping the 86-year-old woman, police officers Thomas Duran and Joseph Sandberg Tasered her, causing her to pass out. “Don’t Taze my granny!” Tinsley says he shouted at the officers, who also are accused of stepping on Varner’s oxygen hose."

AllGov - News - Oklahoma Police Taser Bedridden 86-Year-Old Woman

People usually accuse black people of race baiting, but if whites are getting pissed off over this and are just seeing race and if that is the intention and mentality of the OP, then this thread is race baiting. You have white people acting like whites are the victims in this thread, saying that the arrest of Zimmerman is only because the legal system favors justice for black people and/or pressure from black people like Jackson and Sharpton, saying the Obama Admin gives preferable treatment to black people, Obama is racist, etc. Then you have black people acting like their race is the victim and they have to take justice into their own hands, and/or complain that the legal system works in favor of white people and that's why Zimmerman wasn't immediately arrested.

This thread and all of it is going round and round as you said. The racial tension people are experiencing is pretty obvious, and it's pretty obvious which posters and people are experiencing the most racial tension.

Down with the whitey corporate oppression !:mrgreen::peace

Uh huh, yeah.
 
How bout this one?

Oklahoma Police Taser Bedridden 86-Year-Old Woman

"Bedridden and on oxygen, Lona Varner of El Reno, Oklahoma, was zapped by police using Taser guns after she acted in an “aggressive” manner in her bed. Officers showed up at Varner’s residence after her grandson, Lonnie Tinsley, called 911 seeking medical assistance for his grandmother. But instead of helping the 86-year-old woman, police officers Thomas Duran and Joseph Sandberg Tasered her, causing her to pass out. “Don’t Taze my granny!” Tinsley says he shouted at the officers, who also are accused of stepping on Varner’s oxygen hose."

AllGov - News - Oklahoma Police Taser Bedridden 86-Year-Old Woman

How is this applicable to the discussion?
 
if a gang of 20 black men beat up a white man, and only one of those black men suggests it had anything to do with skin color, that's poor evidence that the whole thing was racially motivated.

......unless one is going to argue that ANY time ANY black person commits ANY crime against a white person, its a racist hate-crime.

But, when 20 whites beat up a black, it's damn sure going to racism, then. Ain't tht right?

Liberal hypocrisy beats all I ever seen.
 
Trayvon is not about race, its about negligence and systematic abuse by police who should have instructed Zimmerman to back off and not to do anything on the phone. But as always, they allow people to be shot or tased unlawfully no matter what their skin collor.
 
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But, when 20 whites beat up a black, it's damn sure going to racism, then. Ain't tht right?

Liberal hypocrisy beats all I ever seen.

again, you are lying about my beliefs, and making up beliefs that I do NOT possess.
 
Whether or not you possess them, you certainly portray them. That is evidenced by the fact that so many that you interact with share that opinion of you.

trust me my friend, you do NOT speak for even a small minority of this forum.

the number of folks here who accuse me of such things, is maybe four. Four right-wing, extremists, often times bigots.

out of 15,000 members?

shocking that I am not impressed by your failed accusation.
 
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trust me my friend, you do NOT speak for even a small minority of this forum.

the number of folks here who accuse me of such things, is maybe four. Four right-wing, extremists, often times bigots.

out of 15,000 members?

shocking that I am not impressed by your failed accusation.

As I said. :lamo
 
trust me my friend, you do NOT speak for even a small minority of this forum.

the number of folks here who accuse me of such things, is maybe four. Four right-wing, extremists, often times bigots.

out of 15,000 members?

shocking that I am not impressed by your failed accusation.

I have seen far more than 4 people call you on your bull****. In fact, the majority of people that I have seen interact with you have.
 
As I said. :lamo

yes, for once we agree.

The ONLY people who accuse me of thinking that only racists disagree with me and President Obama, are extremists and bigots. You are 100% right about that.

The VAST majority of people in this forum, know that I have no such beliefs. That's why maybe four of them ever accuse me of such things.

Its cute how some of those four people have this strange fantasy, that they make up even a sizeable minority of this forum. Cute....and silly. :)
 
I have seen far more than 4 people call you on your bull****. In fact, the majority of people that I have seen interact with you have.

Name four members of this forum, who believe that I feel that anyone who disagrees with me and Obama, is racist.

Name four.

And then we shall ask them if this is what they actually believe, or if you have in fact lied about their views of me.
 
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It seems they attacked him because he was an asshole. Nothing to do with race.

Still doesn't it make it right to put a man in the ICU because he's an asshole. In America, you can be the biggest asshole you want to be.

Like I said, if this a**hole was Asian they would have said this is justice for Trayvon?

This is the fourth attack on a white person from a black assailant saying it was for Trayvon. You don't see a pattern here?
 
Name four members of this forum, who believe that I feel that anyone who disagrees with me and Obama, is racist.

Name four.

And then we shall ask them if this is what they actually believe, or if you have in fact lied about their views of me.

I am talking about all your bull****. Most people on here know you are full of it.
 
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