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Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

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The performance is being organized by the Army, for its own troops. The leadership have the right to invite or uninvite anyone they wish. This is not a private performance by Teddy, so that whole "freedom of expression" argument is irrelevant.

Spin it how you want, but at the end of the day, it's the suppression of free speech.
 
It's not the government's dime. The troops are paying for the concert.
Then troops can pay to see Nugent somewhere else. But he is no longer welcome to perform on government property.

Spin it how you want, but at the end of the day, it's the suppression of free speech.
You're the one spinning. The government protects the right to free speech but it doesn't protect the right to threaten the president and rightly so.
 
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Then troops can pay to see Nugent somewhere else.

Yeah, to hell with troop morale. Right? Politics takes priority.

But he is no longer welcome to perform on government property.

"...as long as Obama is president", you mean?
 
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Yeah, to hell with troop morale. Right? Politics takes priority.
Well, you should have thought about that in 2003.
 
Yeah, to hell with troop morale. Right? Politics takes priority.



"...as long as Obama is president", you mean?
As long as there is a president, period.
 
Actually he does.

Right. I'll remember that. For free speech, the government has to provide a venue and an audience.

I suppose if someone wanted to perform a kazoo/vuvuzela concert for the troops, the government couldn't deny them that because it violates their free speech?
 
Right. I'll remember that. For free speech, the government has to provide a venue and an audience.

I suppose if someone wanted to perform a kazoo/vuvuzela concert for the troops, the government couldn't deny them that because it violates their free speech?

This is from the same guy who thinks Rush's free speech was violated because people boycotted Rush's sponsors.

I suggest he take this class online. Constitution 101: The Meaning and History of the U.S. Constitution - Hillsdale College
 
Spin it how you want, but at the end of the day, it's the suppression of free speech.

No, it's really not.

But the rhetorical gymnastics you're performing to try and make this look like a 1st Amendment issue are amusing to say the least.
 
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I doubt if the military would have approved of some rappers who have voiced violence again police either.
 
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Don't honestly care about Mr. Nugent's politics but this is good. Our military can't be seen as supporting somebody who openly attacks the president. However it is interesting that Mr Nugent has no problem playing for the federally funded troops and getting a federal pay check to do so.



Read the link about Nugent getting the boot. I'm sure he knew this would happen after his run-in with the Secret Service.

My guestion is . . . . are "REO Speedwagon and Styx" the only American entertainers they could get?
 
i might be able to defend the Ft Knox command if they were consistent, but they are not...

A spokesman for Fort Knox told TheBlaze.com that having Nugent perform “would be a conflict of interest since the military has the obligation to be apolitical.”

Such a claim, though, seems dubious when it comes to choosing entertainers, who oftentimes show their partisanship. At its website, for example, Fort Knox is touting an appearance this month by comedian Jay Phillips who is supportive of Obama through his Twitter activities. And Ludacris has performed at U.S. Army bases even after the 2008 release of his pro-Obama song “Politics As Usual,” which calls Hillary Clinton, who was running against Obama at the time, a “bitch” who is “irrelevant.” The ultra-partisan song also called President George W. Bush “mentally handicapped” and says that Sen. John McCain "don't belong in any chair unless he’s paralyzed.”

http://entertainment.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/21/11324499-military-cancels-ted-nugent-show-citing-anti-obama-comments?lite



something is not right with this picture. :?
 
Spin it how you want, but at the end of the day, it's the suppression of free speech.

You know, you are right. Therefore, I am going to go to a Glenn Beck rally and yell out that he sucks. He won't agree with that, but his security people can't kick me out. I'm entitled to my free speech. :mrgreen:
 
Bruce Springsteen doesn't seem to be an asshole.

but he is very political.

the excuse given by Ft Knox is that the military is supposed to be apolitical, there fore it would be a conflict of interest to host Nugent.

seems as what we have here is a different standard for different performers.... pro-Obama performers are allowed, anti-Obama performers are not allowed.
and somehow , that sits well with the liberals who say they hold equality as a virtue.


lots of hypocrisy running around this issue... too much.
 
Did all of these other entertainers commit the same sort of crime?
 
but he is very political.

the excuse given by Ft Knox is that the military is supposed to be apolitical, there fore it would be a conflict of interest to host Nugent.

seems as what we have here is a different standard for different performers.... pro-Obama performers are allowed, anti-Obama performers are not allowed.
and somehow , that sits well with the liberals who say they hold equality as a virtue.


lots of hypocrisy running around this issue... too much.

While I agree there is inconsistency when one of the commanders is quoted as saying that performers should be apolitical, they also cite the recent inflammatory language by Nugent comparing Obama and Dems to coyotes who need by shot. It seems they didn't exactly have a problem with his politics until he said those things, as he was at first invited and then uninvited to perform.
 
How many times did Bush hire the Dixie Chicks to perform?

But that was OK, because the Chicks were Libbos.
 
In no way has the government prevented Ted from expressing his political opinion. Period. He is still free to do so to his heart's content. That's what the First Amendment is about.

Neither is the government obligated to employ him, or anyone else, if they choose not to do so. Period. This does NOT fall under the sphere of the First Amendment.
 
In no way has the government prevented Ted from expressing his political opinion. Period. He is still free to do so to his heart's content. That's what the First Amendment is about.

Neither is the government obligated to employ him, or anyone else, if they choose not to do so. Period. This does NOT fall under the sphere of the First Amendment.
I agree with this...
 
I guess some folks, even those who appear to have served, understand how a military post operates.

First a whole series of 'commands' operate the Post from the ranges, to the barracks to the Post morale. I don't know how Ft. Knox does it but Ft. Sill has a separate command that contracts for special events on Post. They do everything to include advertise the event, crowd control and advance ticket sales on Post. Ft. Sill has a wide variety of groups that play. It is a POST event, not a private concert. No one's Constitutional rights are violated if the Fort decides the performer is a bad egg and they don't want to smell him.

It is also a fallacy to think EVERY post has the exact same opinion on every performer. For that matter, that each Post is a living being that makes these decisions. An entire chain of command operates the Post and those people rotate in and out of those positions so that in 3 months Nuge the Stooge might be welcomed with open arms by the new Post commander, Morale Officer, Commanding General, whatever.

Wonder if those so outraged now were as outraged when the Dixie Chicks were blacklisted/attacked when BushII was president? They didn't threaten anyone.
 
Why is it so interesting that Ted Nugent would want to entertain the people who are serving our country?

Are you questioning his patriotism, just because he criticized the president?

I'm questioning his patriotism because of his actions when he was actually called upon to serve by his country. I know the fact that he **** and pissed his pants and 'refrained from personal hygiene for ten days before his draft physical doesn't bother you, but I'll bet it bothers a hell of a lot of serving military people.
 
This never happened to Bruce Springstein.

Did Bruce Springsteen piss his pants in order to avoid military service? I missed that one.
 
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