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Food Stamp Rolls to Grow Through 2014, CBO Says

Ikari said:
And thanks Bush for kicking it all off. Gotta love the Republocrats, doesn't matter which side of the coin we got; they try to **** us over and take the coin regardless.
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Republicrats. Once again, I say that the 2 main parties should merge and their new mascot be a donkey's ass sticking out of an elephant's ass. LOL.
 
rhinefire said:
"Welfare" began as a program to HELP now it is a program to SUPPORT. The scum that lays in it's own waste screaming when that check doesn't come are typical of all mouth breathers that do not grasp the concept of self support much less bettering their situations. The day is coming when welfare like social security and health care, will begin to shrink to oblivion and those that survived off it will then be forced to lives of crime in order to eat.
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There are certainly reforms to make, not saying the system is perfect. However, I do not see this as any method of addressing those necessary reforms. This is a deflection.

And as society grows and we become more technological, more advanced, and more complicated things like welfare, social security, healthcare, etc. will be more and more necessary.
 
AdamT said:
Of course it's all very easy to sit outside the window and shout at everyone inside, but there IS a difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. You may not like either party, but they are not the same.
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They are not functionally different enough to have substantial effect.
 
Wouldn't it have been better to say: Food stamp rolls to rise?
 
AdamT said:
Of course it's all very easy to sit outside the window and shout at everyone inside, but there IS a difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. You may not like either party, but they are not the same.
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When it comes down to it, yeah, they are pretty much the same. The main difference being who they want to give money to (i.e.. who their 'friends' are).
 
Well, I'd say a large % of that growth is from government ineptitude anyhow. "Let's have a push to enroll people in the food stamp program!! Yay!!!!
 
Of course, none of this could be from people still out of work from lack of jobs that are now being dropped off the unemployment roles as well.
 
MoSurveyor said:
Of course, none of this could be from people still out of work from lack of jobs that are now being dropped off the unemployment roles as well.
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the current mantra is that anyone can find a good job if they want to which ignores the numbers
 
megaprogman said:
the current mantra is that anyone can find a good job if they want to which ignores the numbers
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People can find jobs all the time. Maybe not good jobs, but jobs none the less. They're [jobs] in China.
 
Ikari said:
People can find jobs all the time. Maybe not good jobs, but jobs none the less. They're [jobs] in China.
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job postings in the US are lower than the number of unemployed and its not always possible to emigrate.
 
Ikari said:
People can find jobs all the time. Maybe not good jobs, but jobs none the less. They're [jobs] in China.
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Just walk to California then start swimming. LOL!
 
megaprogman said:
job postings in the US are lower than the number of unemployed and its not always possible to emigrate.
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I know, it was more a comment towards the offshoring of jobs and weak US job market.
 
The Congressional Budget Office said Thursday that 45 million people in 2011 received Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits, a 70% increase from 2007. It said the number of people receiving the benefits, commonly known as food stamps, would continue growing until 2014.
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If it is easier to obtain food stamps than it was in 2007 then isn't the president giving to his base in a way(unless a good part of those recipients are Republicans), if those 45 million people are voters and that number doesn't include children and such, isn't that 45 million potential votes? Especially if a certain party seeks only to reduce spending on the common man(these programs).

Unlike some of the other money that has been thrown at our problems these funds will probably go straight back into the economy, when people buy goods. It's not like businesses won't get that money too when someone buys a soda or bag of chips.

Half a dozen of one and six of the other IMO, but I did like the term "rolls" in the title, as in the voting rolls , hehe.
 
I think that food stamps and other government help is necessary, considering large businesses like Delphi Corporation had no problem laying off workers and sending those jobs to other countries.

If some on the right who cut back on jobs and send them overseas become a problem, then those on the left should rebalance the nation by then helping those who are suffering without jobs.
 
apdst said:
That's what the propagandists would like for us to believe, anyway.
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Lol you mean economist that work independently from the government? You seem to not know what the actual definition of a recession is. In general a recession is the continuing decline of many factors. Once these factors stabilize and don't continue to have rapid negative declines, the recession has ended, think of it as a recess in the ground for example. While the hole is still there, dirt is still getting piled on top filling the hole, even if it is with a shovel and not a bull dozer like many would hope.

Anyways, it is troubling to hear this, but I believe as a way to cut money from the program WIC or a WIC like program needs to be created to satisfy all and get rid of food stamps totally. There is far more accountability in the WIC program, and in the long run would far more more helpful to those in need.
 
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Ikari said:
And thanks Bush for kicking it all off. Gotta love the Republocrats, doesn't matter which side of the coin we got; they try to **** us over and take the coin regardless.
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And your heros are standing on the sidelines with their hands in their pockets. Stop playing with you puds and get in the game.
 
American said:
And your heros are standing on the sidelines with their hands in their pockets. Stop playing with you puds and get in the game.
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I'd love to get in the game, but your side makes it impossible to even participate. Death of political competition is one of the first steps to aristocracy. Who am I to vote for? The same folk who caused the problems in the first place? Yeah, that will fix the problem. The Status quo has taken us here and support of the status quo will not fix it.

So instead I participate as much as I can in third party activities, and just count the number of times the founders are rolling over in their graves due to the travesty we have made out of their Republic.
 
Ikari said:
I'd love to get in the game, but your side makes it impossible to even participate. Death of political competition is one of the first steps to aristocracy. Who am I to vote for? The same folk who caused the problems in the first place? Yeah, that will fix the problem. The Status quo has taken us here and support of the status quo will not fix it.

So instead I participate as much as I can in third party activities, and just count the number of times the founders are rolling over in their graves due to the travesty we have made out of their Republic.
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Honestly the way things are going, I think within the next 20 years we will see two new, very serious parties with a total of four in the mix overall.
 
AdamT said:
Of course it's all very easy to sit outside the window and shout at everyone inside, but there IS a difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. You may not like either party, but they are not the same.
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I'd argue that. When you compare the policies of Bush and Obama, especially the foreign policies, there is virtually no difference. Bush expanded the power of the Executive Branch and Obama has done the same. Obama has continued to fight a hopeless war in Afghanistan and pushes for military intervention (eg Libya) and is engaged in the demonization and isolation of Iran, continuing the false narrative that they are seeking nuclear weapons.
 
muciti said:
I am glad to see that they are getting assistance out to more people. Now they just need to work on stopping the abuses with food stamps.
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I would be interested to see numbers. A student quoted in a speech the other day that actual abuses only add up to about 1% of those on food stamps. If true, and as it wasn't my class and no work cited turned into me, than it would be hard to better than that.
 
Ikari said:
They are not functionally different enough to have substantial effect.
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I quite agree. I would like it if the difference between the parties was as great as partisans like to claim. The sad truth is both are far too much alike.
 
Boo Radley said:
I would be interested to see numbers. A student quoted in a speech the other day that actual abuses only add up to about 1% of those on food stamps. If true, and as it wasn't my class and no work cited turned into me, than it would be hard to better than that.
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I would be interested in seeing those number too. I know many people on food stamps who will take you shopping for your groceries and you give them cash equal to 50% of the transaction. Selling food stamps is fairly common. I am not going to estimate a percentage of people who do it, however, I can tell you that there is no shortage of people doing it. If I were to guess, I'd say that 1% was based on convictions.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
I'd argue that. When you compare the policies of Bush and Obama, especially the foreign policies, there is virtually no difference.
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You think their foreign policies are the same?!? :lol:
 
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