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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans - CBS News


U.S. troops posed with body parts of Afghan bombers - latimes.com

All of these guys who are doing this are a disgrace to the United States and the military.
I have complete respect for our men and women in the military (I once was one), this **** has just has to stop. What in hell is going on with behavior? Do they think the are trophies, like a large fish caught or a deer killed in the hunt. Sick, throw the military justice book at these idiots
 
The thing that really bugs me is this is from 2010. When will people and celebrities realize you don't video tape or take pictures of yourselves doing dumb things if you don't want it to get out. We are in the information age people, it's not rocket science.

I also fault the (IIRC) the LA times for going ahead and publishing this when they darn well know the backlash previous things like this has caused the troops. All this so they can make money. It has **** to do with journalism IMO.
 
If someone does not wish to be treated like trash, do not blow up a bunch of kids and moms because your a weak minded fool.


That said...I'm sure it pissed off quite a few folks with guns, when this guys buddy succeeded a few weeks ago (or whatever). I understand our guys are humans dealing with the inhuman.

This is not excusing it, instead trying to understand it.
 
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The thing that really bugs me is this is from 2010. When will people and celebrities realize you don't video tape or take pictures of yourselves doing dumb things if you don't want it to get out. We are in the information age people, it's not rocket science.

I also fault the (IIRC) the LA times for going ahead and publishing this when they darn well know the backlash previous things like this has caused the troops. All this so they can make money. It has **** to do with journalism IMO.
Sorry, but the object of the media is to report the "news," they shouldn't be in the business of deciding what is good news and what is bad news for our country or the military. This is exactly why we have the First Amendment.
 
Come on guys. Really. I know it's tough out there, but you're soldiers of the United States.
 
Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans - CBS News


U.S. troops posed with body parts of Afghan bombers - latimes.com

All of these guys who are doing this are a disgrace to the United States and the military.
It happens in every single war, this is what war does to the participants. It takes training to crack through the deep rejection we have for going out and killing another human, once you do, you always end up with people who commit atrocities.

What did we expect?
 
Sorry, but the object of the media is to report the "news," they shouldn't be in the business of deciding what is good news and what is bad news for our country or the military. This is exactly why we have the First Amendment.

I can somewhat agree with you about reporting the "news" The question to ask is how much editing and opinion is thrown in to the mix? I personally, look at most news reports with a grain of salt. In most cases, not all sides are presented in what you hear or see on tv/radio/paper/internet.
 
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Not only that, but they are inherently stupid.

I vote we start discharging soldiers who do this immediately and forthwith. Have a proven undoctored photo? Out you go. ENOUGH!!!

Yes, posing for a photo like this immediately places one in the "too stupid to be given access to weaponry" category.
 
Ehh, stuff like this happens all the time. It's kinda ****ed up but not a big deal IMO.

What IS a big deal is how these photos became public.

To me it is a big deal. You dont disrespect the dead. That shows a low class and a disrespect for human lives. These guys are representing America. We are working or should be working to improve our image around the world. Mocking and displaying death in these countries is not how to go about doing that. This is disgusting.
 
To me it is a big deal. You dont disrespect the dead. That shows a low class and a disrespect for human lives. These guys are representing America. We are working or should be working to improve our image around the world. Mocking and displaying death in these countries is not how to go about doing that. This is disgusting.

It is disgusting, but I don't have as much a problem with this as I did with the pissing Marines. This kinda stuff happens in EVERY war and it's pretty impossible to prevent it. What IS a big deal to me is how the **** do these pics keep on surfacing in the public domain.
 
Ehh, stuff like this happens all the time. It's kinda ****ed up but not a big deal IMO.

What IS a big deal is how these photos became public.
It is disgusting, but I don't have as much a problem with this as I did with the pissing Marines. This kinda stuff happens in EVERY war and it's pretty impossible to prevent it. What IS a big deal to me is how the **** do these pics keep on surfacing in the public domain.
Um, because electronic devices are connected worldwide.

I'm still trying to understand this, you are not upset so much about it happening (you expect it), you are upset that it becomes known?
 
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It is disgusting, but I don't have as much a problem with this as I did with the pissing Marines. This kinda stuff happens in EVERY war and it's pretty impossible to prevent it. What IS a big deal to me is how the **** do these pics keep on surfacing in the public domain.

You're right...I don't think this is new, nor that disturbing in the context that they're in. Disturbing to the average every day person? Absolutely. However its an entirely different world, mindset, and culture within a war zone and even just in the military than what the average person experiences. Its precisely why I'm fine with a lot of stuff that goes on in war NOT making it to the news. However, the reason it does is we are living in a time where connectivity and communication is at an all time high and due to that this stuff has a far easier pathway to breaking through that veil of military culture.
 
You're right...I don't think this is new, nor that disturbing in the context that they're in. Disturbing to the average every day person? Absolutely. However its an entirely different world, mindset, and culture within a war zone and even just in the military than what the average person experiences. Its precisely why I'm fine with a lot of stuff that goes on in war NOT making it to the news. However, the reason it does is we are living in a time where connectivity and communication is at an all time high and due to that this stuff has a far easier pathway to breaking through that veil of military culture.
Because it would upset citizens knowing what they are supporting...and then they would not want to pay for that.
 
It has to deal with being there a long time. Just complete disrespect of human life.
 
Um, because electronic devices are connected worldwide.

I'm still trying to understand this, you are not upset so much about it happening (you expect it), you are upset that it becomes known?

Just because you take a picture doesn't mean it has to end up on the internet. Understood?

I am more upset that it becomes known because it brings public shame upon the soldier and his unit, not to mention more potential backlash from the Afghan populace. Essentially, when **** like this becomes widely publicized, it makes the job a lot harder to do.
 
Normalizing death in a combat situation is most likely the best way to deal with the horrors of war. I really do not have a problem with taking pictures as a "souvenir" of survival in a hot zone, if it relieves the stress of war. To send it home in this manner is what I have a problem with.
 
Normalizing death in a combat situation is most likely the best way to deal with the horrors of war. I really do not have a problem with taking pictures as a "souvenir" of survival in a hot zone, if it relieves the stress of war. To send it home in this manner is what I have a problem with.

I've never been to war, but I know all too many who have. The horrors are unimaginable to any who have not lived it. That's one reason I don't go all postal when I see photos of troops posing with dead bodies or pissing on them. If I'd spent months and years watching the "enemy" blow up my friends and torture civilians, I'd be bat**** insane. Thing is, nobody goes into tooth-gnashing finger-pointing meltdowns when people are being bombed and brutalized by this same "enemy", or when our soldiers make this "enemy" dead in the first place... only when they figuratively kick the body of someone who has tried to kill them and are stupid enough to take pictures of themselves doing it.

What angers me most is that some soldier sent this photo to the LA Times, knowing the repurcussions it would have to his fellow soldiers in the photo. That's cold.

Anyway, I'll save my outrage for those who murder, rape and maim innocents. :shrug:
 
Just because you take a picture doesn't mean it has to end up on the internet. Understood?

I am more upset that it becomes known because it brings public shame upon the soldier and his unit, not to mention more potential backlash from the Afghan populace. Essentially, when **** like this becomes widely publicized, it makes the job a lot harder to do.


No picture taken, no picture revealed on the internet. Seems like a perfectly reasonable solution.
 
Nothing to see here.... Move along.

Nothing that hasn't been happening since man started killing man. Some indians mutilated the dead in belief that it would carry over to the afterlife. Some tribes ate the hearts of their enemies to gain their strength, some took ears, scalps and other body parts as trophies. Big ****ing whoop, some guys posed for pictures with dead bodies.

What's sad is that some people are more outraged by the "defiling" of the dead than they are of the fact that they were killed.
 
I really have no problem with it. We sent them there to kill these animals, who cares if they take pictures of it? It' what we pay them for!
 
Just because you take a picture doesn't mean it has to end up on the internet. Understood?
But it does happen...for various reasons..understood?

I am more upset that it becomes known because it brings public shame upon the soldier and his unit, not to mention more potential backlash from the Afghan populace. Essentially, when **** like this becomes widely publicized, it makes the job a lot harder to do.
Since part of the "job" is killing, you don't want the killing shown, you don't want trophy pictures like this coming to light. The Afghans know this is going on, it is happening where they live, they know far more about it than we do, they don't need the internet to find out about this.....they have been experiencing it since the Soviet invasion.

This is what war means, we should see all of it since we do not experience it....but we pay for it to happen. I believe your real objection is that US citizens are exposed to it.
 
Normalizing death in a combat situation is most likely the best way to deal with the horrors of war. I really do not have a problem with taking pictures as a "souvenir" of survival in a hot zone, if it relieves the stress of war. To send it home in this manner is what I have a problem with.
It is not "normalizing", it is dehumanizing the actions of war. You have to take away the fact that these are humans to get to this point.
 
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