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mac said:
Right. You're wrong. Hell, Venezuela and Canada alone account for 33% percent of the proven oil reserve.
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"The total estimated amount of oil in an oil reservoir, including both producible and non-producible oil, is called oil in place. However, because of reservoir characteristics and limitations in petroleum extraction technologies, only a fraction of this oil can be brought to the surface, and it is only this producible fraction that is considered to be reserves."

"Most of the world's oil reserves are in the Middle East."

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Oil reserves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Catawba said:
"The total estimated amount of oil in an oil reservoir, including both producible and non-producible oil, is called oil in place. However, because of reservoir characteristics and limitations in petroleum extraction technologies, only a fraction of this oil can be brought to the surface, and it is only this producible fraction that is considered to be reserves."

"Most of the world's oil reserves are in the Middle East."

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Oil reserves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Dude, you moved the goal posts. You said easily extractable...which falls under the catagory of "proven oil reserves." All the middle eastern countries that produce oil are in the top 10 list. There are 5 other countries in the top ten list. Those five other countries have roughly 260 BBL more than the middle eastern countries (combined).
 
Dittohead not! said:
Most of the world's easily recoverable oil reserves are in the Middle East.

Of course, once the price gets high enough, then the tar sands, oil shale, etc will be profitable.

Meanwhile, we can generate no end of hot air ranting about how we just need to exploit our own resources and how the left wing is just keeping us from a certain prosperity and energy independence. Maybe we can tap some of that hot air, sort of like geothermal energy.
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Wrong, most of the oil in proven oil reserves (which is easily extractable oil) are in countries outside the middle east.
 
mac said:
Wrong, most of the oil in proven oil reserves (which is easily extractable oil) are in countries outside the middle east.
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"According to BP, the Middle East has 61% of the world's oil reserves. Africa has 9.6% and the Russian Federation has 6.4%. The two countries sharing borders with the United States, Mexico and Canada, together have only 3.2%. Venezeula, a short distance away via oil tanker, has 7%

The United States possesses 2.6% of the worlds oil reserves while it consumes 24% of the world's oil production."

Current World Oil Situation
 
Catawba said:
"According to BP, the Middle East has 61% of the world's oil reserves. Africa has 9.6% and the Russian Federation has 6.4%. The two countries sharing borders with the United States, Mexico and Canada, together have only 3.2%. Venezeula, a short distance away via oil tanker, has 7%

The United States possesses 2.6% of the worlds oil reserves while it consumes 24% of the world's oil production."

Current World Oil Situation
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You're getting confused by terminology. Proven Oil reserves are less than the total world oil reserves. What is known as "Proven Oil Reserves" are those quantities which are "easily" or "cheaply" extractable with today's technology.
 
mac said:
You're getting confused by terminology. Proven Oil reserves are less than the total world oil reserves. What is known as "Proven Oil Reserves" are those quantities which are "easily" or "cheaply" extractable with today's technology.
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Yep, that is what I have been talking about. Why do you think most of our military spending has been in the middle east as we approach the peak of cheap oil in the world?
 
Catawba said:
Yep, that is what I have been talking about. Why do you think most of our military spending has been in the middle east as we approach the peak of cheap oil in the world?
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No, it's not what you've been talking about. You started this off with "the middle east has the majority of the cheap oil"....just not true. It has a lot, but not most. The peak thing is a myth, too. BTW....how much does Afghanistan have?
 
mac said:
No, it's not what you've been talking about. You started this off with "the middle east has the majority of the cheap oil"....just not true. It has a lot, but not most. The peak thing is a myth, too. BTW....how much does Afghanistan have?
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Aw now you've gone and done it....Cat is a 'peak oil' card carrying follower....I think it is his religion.


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Aw now you've gone and done it....Cat is a 'peak oil' card carrying follower....I think it is his religion.


j-mac
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I think the religion belongs to those who say forget science and let's all BELIEVE there isn't a problem and we'll never run out of anything. You got it wrong again j.
 
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Oil will never run out, at least not in my lifetime.
We can bring down the cost of it by simply opening more land to drilling.
Global warming just a hoax anyway, since I don't want to believe it.
That $15 trillion debt doesn't matter.
We have the best health care in the world. Why change anything?

OK, some of those are off the subject, but so what? This whole thread is off the subject by now anyway.
 
Boo Radley said:
I think the religion belongs to those who say forget science and let's all BELIEVE there isn't a problem and we'll never run out of anything. You got it wrong again j.
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And just when I thought you were becoming reasonable with your discussion between you and MSgt. You may think what you want, that doesn't make it fact just because you think it.

j-mac
 
Dittohead not! said:
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Oil will never run out, at least not in my lifetime.
We can bring down the cost of it by simply opening more land to drilling.
Global warming just a hoax anyway, since I don't want to believe it.
That $15 trillion debt doesn't matter.
We have the best health care in the world. Why change anything?

OK, some of those are off the subject, but so what? This whole thread is off the subject by now anyway.
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Oh come now Ditto...What fun would the world be if everyone just believed what the lemmings believe.


j-mac
 
Dittohead not! said:
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Oil will never run out, at least not in my lifetime.
We can bring down the cost of it by simply opening more land to drilling.
Global warming just a hoax anyway, since I don't want to believe it.
That $15 trillion debt doesn't matter.
We have the best health care in the world. Why change anything?

OK, some of those are off the subject, but so what? This whole thread is off the subject by now anyway.
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It's not about when will it run out. I have no doubt that if left unchecked...humans will consume everything they come across. However, where does oil come from? What makes it? Is it a finite resource or is it renewable? We don;t have complete answers to any of those questions.

Personally, I beleive we are impacting our environment, but to what extent is debatable. Polution certainly has an impact, but again, to what extent is debatable. I don't like polution or excess consumption but that doesn't mean I'm:

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mac said:
It's not about when will it run out. I have no doubt that if left unchecked...humans will consume everything they come across. However, where does oil come from? What makes it? Is it a finite resource or is it renewable? We don;t have complete answers to any of those questions.

Personally, I beleive we are impacting our environment, but to what extent is debatable. Polution certainly has an impact, but again, to what extent is debatable. I don't like polution or excess consumption but that doesn't mean I'm:

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If nature is making any more oil, it will be millions of years in the making, just like the oil we have now.

Humans are learning to make oil, which is the best shot we have of solving the energy problem in the long term.
 
Dittohead not! said:
If nature is making any more oil, it will be millions of years in the making, just like the oil we have now.
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How do you know it takes millions of years? Couldn't it just have been on ongoing process over millions of years? A process that is still going on? Do you think the earth decided at some point that it had made enough and is waiting for us to deplete it before it starts making more?

Humans are learning to make oil, which is the best shot we have of solving the energy problem in the long term.
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Yes, and it's made from waste products. Win-win.
 
mac said:
How do you know it takes millions of years? Couldn't it just have been on ongoing process over millions of years? A process that is still going on? Do you think the earth decided at some point that it had made enough and is waiting for us to deplete it before it starts making more?
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it probably is making more, just not as much as during the Carboniferous Age when there was a lot more decaying plant material. It just takes quite a long time do do, that's all.

mac said:
Yes, and it's made from waste products. Win-win.
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yes, and algae as well. It is a win win, and is the best shot we have at a long term solution, short of discovering practical cold fusion or something like that.
 
mac said:
How do you know it takes millions of years? Couldn't it just have been on ongoing process over millions of years? A process that is still going on? Do you think the earth decided at some point that it had made enough and is waiting for us to deplete it before it starts making more?



Yes, and it's made from waste products. Win-win.
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actually, I read somewhere not too long ago that many of the oil fields that had been pumped dry a decade or so ago already had more oil in them. IF that is true, then it would seem that more oil has seeped into the wells from the surrounding area (oil field was more extensive than believed) or that it doesn't take millions of years for oil to form. :shrug:
 
OscarB63 said:
actually, I read somewhere not too long ago that many of the oil fields that had been pumped dry a decade or so ago already had more oil in them. IF that is true, then it would seem that more oil has seeped into the wells from the surrounding area (oil field was more extensive than believed) or that it doesn't take millions of years for oil to form. :shrug:
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And as little as 5 years ago, the 'Peak Oil' disciples were mocking the Russians who started noticing that their oil fields were regenerating....


j-mac
 

Question: How was crude oil formed?


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The crude oil we use today was formed millions of years ago but crude oil is still being formed today.

More crude oil is formed every time an animal or plant in the sea dies and is squashed by layers of other dead marine life (that turns into rock)over the top. This takes a long time.
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j-mac said:
Is it possible that scientists and geologists that have the current theory of oil formation, could find some new evidence, that would lead to the old theory being inaccurate?

j-mac
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Only through new evidence. Not through wishful thinking.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Only through new evidence. Not through wishful thinking.
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Ok, that's true, but wouldn't it also be true that if there is starting to be new evidence, that this wouldn't be published, or known by us until it is long down the path to broad based acceptance? In that case there could be evidence of that now, but it would take time to overturn conventional thinking on the matter....

j-mac
 
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