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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

Catawba said:
If his actions endangered his fellow troops and put at risk a decade long mission, I would say he got off easy.
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nope. just duty. long, glorified firewatch.
 
Catawba said:
I'm not into self delusion, sorry! Even a majority of post 9/11 Vets said the war with Iraq was not worth it.
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Most of them are not in a position to know whether the Iraq war was worth it or not.
I used to wonder why you are so anti-American. I no longer care.
 
Boo Radley said:
What I took issue with was that Afghanistan is responsible for 9/11.

And no, I do not care to amend my statement. We have to stop thinking we control other countries. If Afghanistan attacked us, we'd be proper to defended ourselves, and that would involved the people. But to in and tell them what they should do or have is simply wrong. Afghanistan is not our country. Neither is Iraq. Anything they do short of an act of aggression would not warrant our invading.
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Do you think we are fighting Iraq and Afghanistan? We are allies.
 
ric27 said:
Your bull**** is getting annoying....

The dirty nasty truth of the job doesn’t really sink in until you’ve been it for a couple of years. If you aren’t out there doing it daily you don’t know what I’m talking about. You might think you do, but you don’t. Until the day the realization really sinks in ...

You just don’t understand or care about things that don’t immediately impact your own personal and selfish daily life. You have no comprehension of what an encounter with a rapist, murderer piece of **** terrorist is like or how these people act until YOU or someone YOU care about becomes the victim of one.


You don’t see the devastation and human tragedy these people leave behind so you don’t care. You say you care, and maybe you do, just a little. Not enough to do anything about it, but enough to sit by and bitch about those that care enough to act.
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The person you are responding to is a busybody bureaucrat. He is important!
 
Catawba said:
No, they should be dishonorably discharged for putting their fellow soldiers and mission at risk. Without severe consequences for their actions, the behavior will be repeated in the future.
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We could call in the EPA and just crucify the first five we happen upon.
 
ric27 said:
Your bull**** is getting annoying....

The dirty nasty truth of the job doesn’t really sink in until you’ve been it for a couple of years. If you aren’t out there doing it daily you don’t know what I’m talking about. You might think you do, but you don’t. Until the day the realization really sinks in ...

You just don’t understand or care about things that don’t immediately impact your own personal and selfish daily life. You have no comprehension of what an encounter with a rapist, murderer piece of **** terrorist is like or how these people act until YOU or someone YOU care about becomes the victim of one.


You don’t see the devastation and human tragedy these people leave behind so you don’t care. You say you care, and maybe you do, just a little. Not enough to do anything about it, but enough to sit by and bitch about those that care enough to act.
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that's all well and good, but as my tax-dollars pay these soldiers and pay for these wars, I think I have a right to condemn them when they take smiley photos next to the mangled bodies of their enemies.
 
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Catawba said:
You ignored this part - "and can stand on its own without our protection."
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Whats the point?

Nothing wrong with a little US co op with these countries and vice versa
 
Thunder said:
I think I have a right to condemn them when they take smiley photos next to the mangled bodies of their enemies.
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No, it does not. It does not purchase you the right to judge his actions in heated warfare
 
ric27 said:
No, it does not. It does not purchase you the right to judge his actions in heated warfare
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frankly ric27, I find your hatred of the free exchange of ideas & feelings to be troubling.

this is a debate forum. its created for the exchange of ideas and beliefs, including ones that YOU find offensive.

while you have every right to vehemently disagree with someone's views, you don't have the right to tell them that they can't express such views.

that's the beauty of America: as long as you don't threaten others you can say what you want and the gov. can't and won't stop you. and most Americans will respect your right to say what you feel, even if they find such views offensive.
 
Thunder said:
frankly ric27, I find your hatred of the free exchange of ideas & feelings to be troubling.

this is a debate forum. its created for the exchange of ideas and beliefs, including ones that YOU find offensive.

while you have every right to vehemently disagree with someone's views, you don't have the right to tell them that they can't express such views.

that's the beauty of America: as long as you don't threaten others you can say what you want and the gov. can't and won't stop you. and most Americans will respect your right to say what you feel, even if they find such views offensive.
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Express all you want.....Knock yourself out. As a matter of fact....get out and train with some real gun fighting kinda dudes and see where you stand. This isn't meant as an insult, just trying to help

Point is, you have no ****ing clue about anyone's morals and ethics.
 
ric27 said:
Express all you want.....Knock yourself out. As a matter of fact....get out and train with some real gun fighting kinda dudes and see where you stand. This isn't meant as an insult, just trying to help

Point is, you have no ****ing clue about anyone's morals and ethics.
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I know that its unethical to take smiley photos next to the mangled dead bodies of the enemy, and it violates military rules regarding respect for the dead...as it should.
 
Misterveritis said:
Do you think we are fighting Iraq and Afghanistan? We are allies.
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As neither country asked us to invade, yeah. We invaded those countries, took control, and put in place different people who could not have said, "No! You people go away!"

That is reality. You seem to be trying to make an assertion that skips how we got here and what options were really available to the people of those countries.
 
Boo Radley said:
As neither country asked us to invade, yeah. We invaded those countries, took control, and put in place different people who could not have said, "No! You people go away!"

That is reality. You seem to be trying to make an assertion that skips how we got here and what options were really available to the people of those countries.
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At best you could say that we enabled them to put their leaders in place...and that is something we should be proud of. Of course that would be lost on the loathers.
 
Thunder said:
I know that its unethical to take smiley photos next to the mangled dead bodies of the enemy, and it violates military rules regarding respect for the dead...as it should.
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I have no respect for dead savages, why should I?

You think we should "respect" some terrorist savage hump, cause he's dead now?

**** that noise! :lamo:


Naive
 
Thunder said:
that's all well and good, but as my tax-dollars pay these soldiers and pay for these wars, I think I have a right to condemn them when they take smiley photos next to the mangled bodies of their enemies.
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So lets review. We should respect the insurgents but condemn the soldiers..... /facepalm
 
In your world you disrespect the dead and praise the war criminals. His is preferable.

ICC Elements of Crimes​
With reference to the war crime of outrages upon personal dignity, the 2000 ICC Elements of Crimes specifies that Article 8(2)(b)(xxi) and (c)(ii) of the 1998 ICC Statute also applies to dead persons
 
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