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mac said:
ah...like Vietnam....
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Not like Vietnam. Vietnam was about US hegemony in Southeast Asia. There was no need for any US action there.
 
j-mac said:
This isn't about me. This is your tactic, make it about me when you are dodging the answer...
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It is about you and your tactic. No one is dodging.



Aw Joe, I'm hurt. Games? Tactics? Me? Nah, I don't have time for that crap. They call me 'Just the Facts!'

However, The examples they use are weak in relation to the question mac asked. Venezuela is headed before long toward civil war should Chavez continue to drive that country into the gutter. And Argentina I would argue under the thumb of England wasn't a true free country. But you seemed to have posted an article that in its title showed a stunning bias that transposed to the rest of the opinion, and that was why I asked you the question I did.
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They are weak because you don't like them? Venezuela was a democracy and it isn't now. Mac made no stipulationas to how it had to happen. And was Argentina any less free than those democracies we've set up? I doubt it. Do you remember when we free Cuba for another example?

Face it J, you just want to make excuses for is ill informed question.

His quote, hell it was in his title....Didn't you even read the article you posted in answer of mac's question? I am not asking you to tell me what you think he was saying, or the context, or anything of the like that takes your typical dancing bear answer that goes in paragraph circles and says little. I am asking you, Joe, YOU, a direct question that I would like a direct YES, or NO answer to if you can even do that without your head exploding. And that is:

Do YOU JOE, think that a country moving from a democratic means of government, to a dictatorship, is an evolution?

Oh, and BTW you do realize that in the last sentence of what you just posted, you are saying that you posted something meant to be an answer to mac, that you now say has nothing to do with the answer you were giving mac....lol....Busted!


j-mac
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His title, which means what?

And no that is not what I said. I said your question has nothing to do with my answer to Mac.

As for your question, try to read slower this time:

Boo said:
I would need to know more and investigate more to give a definitive answer.
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Too many answer without any real knowledge, like Mac's question for example.
 
Catawba said:
Not like Vietnam. Vietnam was about US hegemony in Southeast Asia. There was no need for any US action there.
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No, Vietnam was about supporting allies.
 
mac said:
A hungover sailor always puts everyone around him/her at risk. Why not kick em all out with a DD?
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If the military condemns the action as they did in this case, I would think so. Do you have a link to the military condemning a hungover sailor?
 
Boo Radley said:
Too many answer without any real knowledge, like Mac's question for example.
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You don't know what you think?

I asked for what YOU think, not what you think of what the author of the article was thinking....Don't you see the difference?


j-mac
 
Catawba said:
If the military condemns the action as they did in this case, I would think so. Do you have a link to the military condemning a hungover sailor?
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Why would I need a link? You've decided that the soldier in this case deserve a dishonorable, why do you need support to make a decision in the scenario I provided?
 
mac said:
...police action...
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yeah, right, only because it was an illegal and unconstitutional expansion of the powers of the executive branch. That's why they didn't call it a war, Congress never did declare war.
 
mac said:
because democratic nations do not war on each other. You would like to see an end to wars, no?
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LOL!! Are we not a democratic nation? We are the most warring nation in modern history!!!

Sorry I don't support military force used to establish hegemony. That is the one thing I agree with Ron Paul, our military use should be used for defense, not offense.
 
Catawba said:
LOL!! Are we not a democratic nation? We are the most warring nation in modern history!!!

Sorry I don't support military force used to establish hegemony. That is the one thing I agree with Ron Paul, our military use should be used for defense, not offense.
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and that includes defending our friends and allies, yes?
 
Dittohead not! said:
yeah, right, only because it was an illegal and unconstitutional expansion of the powers of the executive branch. That's why they didn't call it a war, Congress never did declare war.
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When did they declare war?
 
mac said:
No, Vietnam was about supporting allies.
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Bull ****, they said if Vietnam fell to communism, the rest of the world would fall to communism like dominoes.

It was not required for the defense of the US.
 
Catawba said:
LOL!! Are we not a democratic nation? We are the most warring nation in modern history!!!

Sorry I don't support military force used to establish hegemony. That is the one thing I agree with Ron Paul, our military use should be used for defense, not offense.
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democratic nations do not war on each other.

Would you say we, the USA, has been in more wars than...say...France?
 
Catawba said:
Bull ****, they said if Vietnam fell to communism, the rest of the world would fall to communism like dominoes.

It was not required for the defense of the US.
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ok. Who was in charge for the lead up and entry into Vietnam. Why did that President send troops?
 
Catawba...what democracy has returned to dictatorship?

Please do grow a pair and give an honest answer.
 
mac said:
Why would I need a link? You've decided that the soldier in this case deserve a dishonorable, why do you need support to make a decision in the scenario I provided?
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I have said that IMO, yes, any soldier that is condemned by the US Military for putting fellow soldiers lives and the mission at risk, should receive a dd. The punishment will be decided by the military, so what you or I think, matters little.


Since you can provide no evidence of the military ever condemning a sailor for having a hangover, it would seem your comparison is moot.
 
Catawba said:
I have said that IMO, yes, any soldier that is condemned by the US Military for putting fellow soldiers lives and the mission at risk, should receive a dd. The punishment will be decided by the military, so what you or I think, matters little.


Since you can provide no evidence of the military ever condemning a sailor for having a hangover, it would seem your comparison is moot.
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I have sent many sailor to mast for being "unfit for duty" which is the actual charge that applies to "hungover sailor". One of them was responsible for driving a $350k tow tractor over the side of an aircraft carrier, another pushed a C2 into an F18 causing a fire and close to a million in damages. Not one of them received a dishonorable discharge.
 
mac said:
democratic nations do not war on each other.

Would you say we, the USA, has been in more wars than...say...France?
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We would if they had something we wanted to control, like the biggest oil reserves left on the planet.

France is probably right up there with the US with being the most warring nation in modern history.
 
mac said:
ok. Who was in charge for the lead up and entry into Vietnam. Why did that President send troops?
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So you agree it was a mistake and now wish to establish blame?
 
Catawba said:
We would if they had something we wanted to control, like the biggest oil reserves left on the planet.
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And we haven't because....?

France is probably right up there with the US with being the most warring nation in modern history.
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What about the UK? Germany? Italy? Austria? Demark? What do you consider "modern"? In all that history....what two democracies have gone to war against each other?


again...balls...
 
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