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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

Manc Skipper said:
Juggling peoples' body parts is an atrocity. Even more so when those who commit the atrocity hypocritically claim some sort of higher morality while doing so.
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Such nonsense...

A terrorist common practice was to wave a white flag, surrender, hands up, etc., then when one of us was exposed to accept the surrender, either the surrendering dude would pull a grenade or a hidden gun, or his buddies under cover would start firing. They also commonly boobytrapped dead bodies so anyone moving/searching them would be killed.

Our buddies blown to pieces
 
ric27 said:
Such nonsense...

A terrorist common practice was to wave a white flag, surrender, hands up, etc., then when one of us was exposed to accept the surrender, either the surrendering dude would pull a grenade or a hidden gun, or his buddies under cover would start firing....
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prove it with evidence, or it never happened.
 
mac said:
Op-eds are not evidence. Sorry. :shrug:
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Gave you multiple sources. And you can look up more. Sorry, but you're ignoring reality.


peddle...peddle...
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I'm sorry you can't understand a simple sentence. I can point you to someone who can help if you like. :coffeepap
 
Thunder said:
prove it with evidence, or it never happened.
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lol.....

It's not a bloodless computer game. You can't come back to life and restart the level and try again till you can do it with no casualties. You need to understand that.

Maybe if the press would report things like the terrorists misusing the white flag and booby-trapping bodies and hiding behind religious symbols this wouldn't be an issue at all.

You're fighting barbarians that have a tendency to booby trap their bodies and to fake death to get close enough to blow themselves up and when you've been through the kind of gut wrenching, non-stop, house-to-house fighting these guys have been through you will be in the position to pass judgement.
 
ric27 said:
lol.....

It's not a bloodless computer game. You can't come back to life and restart the level and try again till you can do it with no casualties. You need to understand that.

Maybe if the press would report things like the terrorists misusing the white flag and booby-trapping bodies and hiding behind religious symbols this wouldn't be an issue at all.

You're fighting barbarians that have a tendency to booby trap their bodies and to fake death to get close enough to blow themselves up and when you've been through the kind of gut wrenching, non-stop, house-to-house fighting these guys have been through you will be in the position to pass judgement.
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Which is exactly why it's the responsibility of the military to handle these problems internally and not the public to judge.
 
Boo Radley said:
Gave you multiple sources. And you can look up more. Sorry, but you're ignoring reality.
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Nope. Three op-eds. That's not evidence, and that's reality.




I'm sorry you can't understand a simple sentence. I can point you to someone who can help if you like. :coffeepap
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keep peddling...
 
mac said:
Nope. Three op-eds. That's not evidence, and that's reality.






keep peddling...
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Nope:

Military Lowers Standards To Fill Ranks - CBS News

That was a news story.

There is also this:

Defense Department statistics show that the number of Army and Marine recruits needing waivers for felonies and serious misdemeanors, including minor drug offenses, has grown since 2003. Some recruits may get more than one waiver.

Military Accepting More Ex-Cons

I suppose the military hates itself, and that would explain that article away.

If you need help:

Military lowers standards to fill ranks - Google Search

As for the rest of your silliness and comprehensions issues: :2wave:
 
If someone gets in the military, changes thier life around and serves honorably, i sure as hell won disparage them or use them to insult the military....

Can someone name those who got in on waivers who subsequently committed war crimes so we can see they aren't simply talking out thier ass.
 
Boo Radley said:
Nope:

Military Lowers Standards To Fill Ranks - CBS News

That was a news story.

There is also this:

Defense Department statistics show that the number of Army and Marine recruits needing waivers for felonies and serious misdemeanors, including minor drug offenses, has grown since 2003. Some recruits may get more than one waiver.

Military Accepting More Ex-Cons

I suppose the military hates itself, and that would explain that article away....
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the fact that we had to bring in ex-cons to fight are wars, tells us that:'

a. are forces were stretched too thin.

b. the American people weren't really into these wars.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
If someone gets in the military, changes thier life around and serves honorably, i sure as hell won disparage them or use them to insult the military....

Can someone name those who got in on waivers who subsequently committed war crimes so we can see they aren't simply talking out thier ass.
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Nor would I. All we have here is merely acknowledging a fact. I have made no judgement about it. To make one, I would have to know how many turned it around, and how many became a problem. As I don't know either, I don't feel I can amke a judgement yet.
 
Boo Radley said:
Nor would I. All we have here is merely acknowledging a fact. I have made no judgement about it. To make one, I would have to know how many turned it around, and how many became a problem. As I don't know either, I don't feel I can amke a judgement yet.
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So you were making an asinine irrelevant point. One that paints the military in a lesser light.

You have no evidence the soldiers in question were waiivered so I fail to see the point or relevance other than attempting to insult todays military.

Perhaps you care to explain yourself, brother.
 
I won't speak for every grunt, I will however speak my mind.

It is one thing to put a few extra rounds into every downed enemy you see.

It is one thing to put two COM in a guy who has his hands up if the guys behind him are using him as a shield to get close.

ALWAYS suspect bobby traps, FYI, we used to booby trap crap we left behind in the hope of sending some dumb, careless SOB a message. Don't shadow our patrol assh*le!

Using 'calling cards' works for me, let the dead guy's buddies know we don't hide in the shadows.

But it is a whole 'nother sack of rocks to take pictures of your team pissing on the dead, souveniring body parts, playing kick ball with some guy's head!

Don't givash*t if 'they' do it and worse.
 
Boo Radley said:
Nope:

Military Lowers Standards To Fill Ranks - CBS News

That was a news story.

There is also this:

Defense Department statistics show that the number of Army and Marine recruits needing waivers for felonies and serious misdemeanors, including minor drug offenses, has grown since 2003. Some recruits may get more than one waiver.

Military Accepting More Ex-Cons

I suppose the military hates itself, and that would explain that article away.

If you need help:

Military lowers standards to fill ranks - Google Search

As for the rest of your silliness and comprehensions issues: :2wave:
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Not one of these shows a link to the statistics they claim to represent, none of them cite a specific source for their data...and of course none of them are from any official USG organization. They are opinion pieces sponsored by commercial news agencies. If it's not official, it's not evidence.

Besides, most of the waivers granted are for things that wouldn't keep you from getting most civilian jobs or into any university. Hell, President Clinton would have had to get one of these waivers to join. Are you claiming that the average serving soldier is morally superior to the average civilian?
 
Boo Radley said:
Nor would I. All we have here is merely acknowledging a fact. I have made no judgement about it. To make one, I would have to know how many turned it around, and how many became a problem. As I don't know either, I don't feel I can amke a judgement yet.
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You're not acknowledging a fact....you're claiming one. What is the rate? Where is written evidence that the military is granting waivers for what it didn't before? The fact is, the waivers were granted at the same rate for the same reasons....we just have more of them now because we have more soldiers now. 75k more.

These waivers are primarily for things like minor drug possesion, drinking under age, maybe a DUI. You know...what everyone does in college.
 
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mac said:
You're not acknowledging a fact....you're claiming one. What is the rate? Where is written evidence that the military is granting waivers for what it didn't before? The fact is, the waivers were granted at the same rate for the same reasons....we just have more of them now because we have more soldiers now. 75k more.

These waivers are primarily for things like minor drug possesion, drinking under age, maybe a DUI. You know...what everyone does in college.
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No. I'm acknowledging one. You're just in denial.
 
mac said:
...These waivers are primarily for things like minor drug possesion, drinking under age, maybe a DUI. You know...what everyone does in college.
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um, please don't speak for us.

I committed no such felonies while in college.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Well, given your sedentary and timid nature, I guess you wouldn't be able to see through the eyes of those willing to protect you. :shrug:


So the savages, are the guys posing with the body parts of the people who blew themselves up trying to kill them. but the dead savage scum, are, to you, not savages.

Interesting.


So when will you be joining Jihad?





U mad, bro?
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There's no need for anyone to join the patriots repelling the invaders when crusaders such as your countrymen are such excellent recruiters.
 
mac said:
Fox...(can't help it, it's on at work all the time). More importantly, I Googled it when I got home. Huff has a piece on it. Of course they put an imperialist spin on it.

here's an NYT article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/19/world/asia/19bases.html
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From your article:

"Mr. Karzai has already said any such agreement would have to be put to a nationwide loya jirga, a tribal assembly that acts as referendum on important issues.

“In general, people in Afghanistan are against foreign forces,” Mullah Lodin, the negotiator, said. “I don’t think the loya jirga will ever support foreign forces in the country.”
 
Thunder said:
um, please don't speak for us.

I committed no such felonies while in college.
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Get serious....

Do you know, the difference between a petty offense and a felony???

Good gawd!!!! :roll:
 
Thunder said:
um, please don't speak for us.

I committed no such felonies while in college.
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Do you know what a felony is? Didn't you say you had a badge? What "college" graduated you without you knowing what a felony is?
 
Catawba said:
From your article:

"Mr. Karzai has already said any such agreement would have to be put to a nationwide loya jirga, a tribal assembly that acts as referendum on important issues.

“In general, people in Afghanistan are against foreign forces,” Mullah Lodin, the negotiator, said. “I don’t think the loya jirga will ever support foreign forces in the country.”
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So? That doesn't stop the govt from trying to get us to stay.
 
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