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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

StillBallin75 said:
Who is "they"? We were talking about Afghanistan.
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The culture from that region of the world has different perceptions of acceptable than we do here.

Boo Radley said:
Well, you know, they, them, not us. But it doesn't really matter. If we find someone else who does it or worse, we're cool. We can't even suggest that they shouldn't do it.
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Well, at least I don't give a pass to our enemies while at the same time binding our own troops hands for these things like others.

j-mac
 
j-mac said:
The culture from that region of the world has different perceptions of acceptable than we do here.



Well, at least I don't give a pass to our enemies while at the same time binding our own troops hands for these things like others.

j-mac
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No one gives them a pass, which is why there is no debate. You can't debate what everyone agrees on. But those with low nation esteem can't handle any criticism. And that is what we see whenever someone questions what we did.
 
Boo Radley said:
No one gives them a pass, which is why there is no debate. You can't debate what everyone agrees on. But those with low nation esteem can't handle any criticism. And that is what we see whenever someone questions what we did.
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Oh here we go....You're try to bait in your losing argument Joe. You should give up while your behind.;)


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Oh here we go....You're try to bait in your losing argument Joe. You should give up while your behind.;)


j-mac
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J, behind what? Baiting what? You diverted, not me. No one is arguing that what terrorist have done is OK. So,. there is no need to divert to them when we're actually debating the acts of our people.
 
I don't understand why this crap keeps making the news. Stuff like this happens all the time. It should be a military matter; discipline the kids involved, then move on. There's no reason to trot it out on display for everyone to see, unless you wanted to somehow pretend this is new behavior in hostile territory.

And I'm not saying it's right or okay, I just don't think it serves any purpose making it a public spectacle.
 
Republic Now! said:
I don't understand why this crap keeps making the news. Stuff like this happens all the time. It should be a military matter; discipline the kids involved, then move on. There's no reason to trot it out on display for everyone to see, unless you wanted to somehow pretend this is new behavior in hostile territory.

And I'm not saying it's right or okay, I just don't think it serves any purpose making it a public spectacle.
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Atrocities like this will keep making the news until we withdraw our troops. These actions undermine support by the folks we are supposedly there fighting for. It was the same in Iraq and Vietnam.
 
Catawba said:
Atrocities like this will keep making the news until we withdraw our troops. These actions undermine support by the folks we are supposedly there fighting for. It was the same in Iraq and Vietnam.
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"attorcities"?

I think your hyperbole is quite hysterical.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
"attorcities"?

I think your hyperbole is quite hysterical.
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Agreed. Showing disrespect to the enemy is certainly a breach of the standard the US Military has set, and should be handled internally, but to say it's an atrocity is a bit of a stretch.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
"attorcities"?

I think your hyperbole is quite hysterical.
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Here is what the guy we plan to turn over security there to said:

"KABUL, Afghanistan — The Americans in Afghanistan are “demons.”

They claim they burned Korans by mistake, but really those were “Satanic acts that will never be forgiven by apologies.”

The massacre of 16 Afghan children, women and men by an American soldier “was not the first incident, indeed it was the 100th, the 200th and 500th incident.”

Such harsh talk may sound as if it comes from the Taliban, but those are all remarks either made personally by the United States’ increasingly hostile ally here, President Hamid Karzai, or issued by his office in recent days and weeks.

The strongest such outburst came Friday. “Let’s pray for God to rescue us from these two demons,” Mr. Karzai said, apparently holding back tears at a meeting with relatives of the massacre victims, and clearly referring to the United States and the Taliban in the same breath. “There are two demons in our country now.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/18/world/asia/gulf-widens-between-us-and-an-increasingly-hostile-karzai.html?pagewanted=all
 
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Republic Now! said:
Yes, other people exaggerate too. What is your point?
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My point is these atrocities are turning public sentiment in this country and Afghanistan to an earlier withdrawal.

If a few of the far right don't wish to see these actions as atrocities, they can just keep their heads buried in the sand and be surprised that the Afghans and the Americans demand an early withdrawal of troops from there.
 
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Catawba said:
My point is these atrocities are turning public sentiment in this country and Afghanistan to an earlier withdrawal.
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Great. Plenty of things are manipulated for political purposes. I'm just surprised you so readily admit it. Usually people like to delude themselves into thinking their rash behavior has a honest basis. I appreciate the honesty.

If a few of the far right don't wish to see these actions as atrocities, they can just keep their heads buried in the sand and be surprised that the Afghans and the Americans demand and early withdrawal of troops from there.
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Sorry, I don't buy a lack of discipline being an atrocity.
 
Republic Now! said:
Sorry, I don't buy a lack of discipline being an atrocity.
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Then you must be surprised that the guy we plan to turn over security there to thinks it is an atrocity. I'm guessing what he and the other Afghans think about it is a hell of lot more significant than what you think about it.
 
Catawba said:
Then you must be surprised that the guy we plan to turn over security there to thinks it is an atrocity.
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Not really.

I'm guessing what he and the other Afghans think about it is a hell of lot more significant than what you think about it.
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Oh, come now. This is one of the most blatant forms of ad hominem.
 
Republic Now! said:
Not really.
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Do you think that is a good thing, or a bad thing?



Oh, come now. This is one of the most blatant forms of ad hominem.
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Waning Afghan support for our military presence there due to US atrocities is hardly an ad hominem.
 
Catawba said:
Do you think that is a good thing, or a bad thing?
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Neither. Hopefully they can resist the Taliban taking over again. But if not, don't come cryin' to us.

Waning Afghan support for our military presence there due to US atrocities is hardly an ad hominem.
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Do you speak for Afghanis?

j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Neither. Hopefully they can resist the Taliban taking over again. But if not, don't come cryin' to us.
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Can't decide if its a good thing or a bad thing eh?


Do you speak for Afghanis?
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No, they are speaking for themselves as I referenced in post #666.
 
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