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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

Thunder said:
what's hypocritical about my post?

don't be coy, say what's on your mind.
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all your posts.

1. your posts are routinely filled with baseless accusations, unfounded speculation and groundless claims and when called on them you cry "I made no such claim"

and yet you are one of the first to squeal for "proof" any time someone posts something you disagree with.

2. you regularly insult other posters, you insinuate that people are liars, idiots, ignorant, silly, etc

and yet you are quick to bleat "don't bring my job into this" whenever anyone says anything about you.

you are a hypocrite. you constantly cry about others doing the exact same things you yourself do.
 
OscarB63 said:
all your posts...
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basless lie #1.

.....1. your posts are routinely filled with baseless accusations, unfounded speculation and groundless claims and when called on them you cry "I made no such claim"....
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baseless lie #2

....2. you regularly insult other posters, you insinuate that people are liars, idiots, ignorant, silly, etc....
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lie #3

....you are a hypocrite. you constantly cry about others doing the exact same things you yourself do.
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and you have proved once again, that you are 100% incapable of telling the truth.

every accusation you have made against me is a lie. Every single one.

nice going.

now, I know you would much rather talk about me than the thread, but that's just childish and ignorant.

so let's get back to the OP, shall we?
 
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Thunder said:
bigotry, homophobia, supporting big corporations, nationalism...these are all the politics of the RIGHT.....not the Left.

nevermind the fact that the Nazis murdered thousands and thousands of Socialists, Communists, Social-Democrats, and other leftists.

Nazism is left-wing huh? bull**** and you know it.
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originally posted by ric27
Take out the uniforms, the German language and the genocide (for now) and you get the American left. Control of industry, schools, indoctrination of the youth, class warfare, confiscation of the property of the targeted class, etc. And do it all for the people.


left right paradigm right there.u both accusing the other that his side does....the same thing...in different ways. you know what? YOU ARE BOTH RIGHT!!!!
 
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Fubar said:
originally posted by ric27
Take out the uniforms, the German language and the genocide (for now) and you get the American left. Control of industry, schools, indoctrination of the youth, class warfare, confiscation of the property of the targeted class, etc. And do it all for the people.


left right paradigm right there.u both accusing the other that his side does....the same thing...in different ways. you know what? YOU ARE BOTH RIGHT!!!!
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The problems and silliness certainly goes both ways. But neither is as bad as the other tries to make them, and neither is different enough from the other to give us the kond of choice and debate we should have. Of course, we really don't know how to debate with reasons these days. We short cut with name calling and trying to paint the other as the most negative thing we can imagine. It's lazy and cheap, but sadly works, tarring the other and helping to assure low participation in the process.
 
Fubar said:
originally posted by ric27
Take out the uniforms, the German language, the support of corporations, the bigotry, the anti-Semitism, the homophobia, the misogyny, the racism, and the genocide (for now) and you get the American left...
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fixed that for ya.

oh, and btw, Communists in the USSR and other countries were notorious for not caring about the environment.
 
Thunder said:
fixed that for ya.

oh, and btw, Communists in the USSR and other countries were notorious for not caring about the environment.
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btw altering quotes is a major logical fallacy.

i prefer not to point them out but some people i need to.can you guess the fallacy you used?
 
I don't have a problem with the pictures or the soldiers doing it. It is a war. People need to chill out. The guys they are posing with are the dead enemy that was trying to kill them for ****'s sake. :roll:

I would gladly buy all these guys a beer...
 
Dittohead not! said:
One would think that humanity would have evolved beyond conking the other guy on the head and taking over his cave, but it seems we have not.
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And it never will. As long as we have the negative aspects of human nature to deal with their will be killing and war...
 
Bodhisattva said:
I don't have a problem with the pictures or the soldiers doing it. It is a war. People need to chill out. The guys they are posing with are the dead enemy that was trying to kill them for ****'s sake. :roll:

I would gladly buy all these guys a beer...
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Yea, the Afghans are trying to kill american soliders because we invaded there country. If a foreign country invaded us you better believe there would be americans taking up arms against them.

You're right though, we should chill out on the whole sending troops to kill foreigners. its only war right :roll:
 
bonfire said:
Yea, the Afghans are trying to kill american soliders because we invaded there country. If a foreign country invaded us you better believe there would be americans taking up arms against them.

You're right though, we should chill out on the whole sending troops to kill foreigners. its only war right :roll:
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not quitelmowledgeable on the subject.afghanistan sees us as fixing the screwup we left when we helped them push the russians out,then ditched them in ruin leaving the taliban to take over.

besides that there are many different reasons floating around,and i suggest you inform yourself before debating the subject.
 
beerftw said:
not quitelmowledgeable on the subject.afghanistan sees us as fixing the screwup we left when we helped them push the russians out,then ditched them in ruin leaving the taliban to take over.

besides that there are many different reasons floating around,and i suggest you inform yourself before debating the subject.
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oh wow I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was dealing with someone who knew what the afghans are thinking! Your ability to psychoanalyze an entire country of people is amazing, I'm recomending you for a nobel prize. You deserve it.
 
Karsai suggests speedup of US departure:


"President Hamid Karzai said Thursday that a speeded-up departure of Western troops from his country is the only way to prevent a recurrence of 'painful experiences' such as the sight of American soldiers posing with the body parts of dead insurgents... Karzai called the behavior depicted 'inhumane and provocative.' ...The palace statement said Karzai sought an 'accelerated and full transition of security responsibilities to Afghan forces, so Afghanistan can take over its own destiny, and thus no such things can be repeated by the foreign forces in Afghanistan.'"

After Body Parts Photos Surface, Afghanistan Wants Foreign Troops Out: LAist
 
bonfire said:
oh wow I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was dealing with someone who knew what the afghans are thinking! Your ability to psychoanalyze an entire country of people is amazing, I'm recomending you for a nobel prize. You deserve it.
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We did not invade afghanistan. We are there with the approval and cooperation of the Afghan govt. Once they no longer need/want us there we will leave.

That some retards are too stupid to grasp the concept is irrelevant
 
We invaded Afghanistan, the government at the time we invaded was the Taliban and they DID NOT invite us in. The timeline is important. I will refrain on giving my opinion on the mental abilities of those who can't grasp the concept of time lines.

The government now is not much of an authority, barely in control of Kabul. We couldn't leave now if the Afghanis said get the hell out now, too much crap in country. We will be there as long as we want. I do think we want out sooner rather than later, but we did invade to begin with.
 
OscarB63 said:
We did not invade afghanistan. We are there with the approval and cooperation of the Afghan govt. Once they no longer need/want us there we will leave.

That some retards are too stupid to grasp the concept is irrelevant
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that is just not honest.we are still fighting the taliban,the afghan gov. we took down.
 
Boo Radley said:
The problems and silliness certainly goes both ways. But neither is as bad as the other tries to make them, and neither is different enough from the other to give us the kond of choice and debate we should have. Of course, we really don't know how to debate with reasons these days. We short cut with name calling and trying to paint the other as the most negative thing we can imagine. It's lazy and cheap, but sadly works, tarring the other and helping to assure low participation in the process.
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Yep, and how many coffeepap smilies, and name calling your opponent "silly" have YOU used Joe?


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Yep, and how many coffeepap smilies, and name calling your opponent "silly" have YOU used Joe?


j-mac
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What do you think that has to do with what I said. You or some poster here isn't a party. You do understand this, right?

And if you're internalizing this, consider that what I complain about above is what I call silly and use the coffee paper smilie for. It is because posters like you overgeneralize, rely on outdated stereotypes, and seldom ever really debate an issue. And yes, I call that silly and lazy. Stop trying to frame the debate as evil lefties versus righteous American patriots, and your side won't be considered so silly. Understand?

:coffeepap
 
OscarB63 said:
We did not invade afghanistan. We are there with the approval and cooperation of the Afghan govt. Once they no longer need/want us there we will leave.

That some retards are too stupid to grasp the concept is irrelevant
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Childish name calling noted, but no surprise.

Posted by Catawba, immediately above this post:

"President Hamid Karzai said Thursday that a speeded-up departure of Western troops from his country is the only way to prevent a recurrence of 'painful experiences' such as the sight of American soldiers posing with the body parts of dead insurgents... Karzai called the behavior depicted 'inhumane and provocative.' ...The palace statement said Karzai sought an 'accelerated and full transition of security responsibilities to Afghan forces, so Afghanistan can take over its own destiny, and thus no such things can be repeated by the foreign forces in Afghanistan.'"
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Time to go home.
 
Boo Radley said:
What do you think that has to do with what I said. You or some poster here isn't a party. You do understand this, right?

And if you're internalizing this, consider that what I complain about above is what I call silly and use the coffee paper smilie for. It is because posters like you overgeneralize, rely on outdated stereotypes, and seldom ever really debate an issue. And yes, I call that silly and lazy. Stop trying to frame the debate as evil lefties versus righteous American patriots, and your side won't be considered so silly. Understand?

:coffeepap
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So your answer to a simple question, and call for introspective thought is met with name calling, generalization, and that coffee pap smiley. Got it....You know Joe, Alensky tactic that you use is exposed, and quite transparent. You should get a new bag papa.


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
So your answer to a simple question, and call for introspective thought is met with name calling, generalization, and that coffee pap smiley. Got it....You know Joe, Alensky tactic that you use is exposed, and quite transparent. You should get a new bag papa.


j-mac
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You made no such called and asked no reasonable question. If you had, I would have answered it accordingly. It is not me running around going conservative fascists this and conservative communists that. When you and others do that, it is you who are being silly and mimic what I complain about with both parties. Hell, you can't even discuss a point without misrepresenting Alensky. It speaks to your indoctrination, not mine.

:coffeepap
 
StillBallin75 said:
Who is "they"? We were talking about Afghanistan.
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Well, you know, they, them, not us. But it doesn't really matter. If we find someone else who does it or worse, we're cool. We can't even suggest that they shouldn't do it.
 
OscarB63 said:
...2. you regularly insult other posters, you insinuate that people are liars, idiots, ignorant, silly, etc...

...you are a hypocrite.....
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no my friend, YOU are a hyprocrite.


OscarB63 said:
We did not invade afghanistan. We are there with the approval and cooperation of the Afghan govt. Once they no longer need/want us there we will leave.

That some retards are too stupid to grasp the concept is irrelevant
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