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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

Can't decide if its a good thing or a bad thing eh?

I guess you could say that. I'd like nothing more than to say to Kharzi and his corrupt little game playing cohorts, that he is on his own, and just roll out. On the other hand, I realize the reality of what goes on in that region, and the danger it poses to us.

No, they are speaking for themselves as I referenced in post #666.

Well, you certainly phrased it like you were speaking for them, even though most of us know that it was the usual snarky small attempt to stifle an opposing viewpoint.

Look if the Afghani's really want us out of there then explain this one from your hero Obama.....

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Washington has pledged in a newly agreed strategic pact to help defend Afghanistan militarily for at least a decade after the country formally takes control of its own security, an Afghan official said Monday.

US to defend Afghanistan for decade after drawdown - Yahoo! News

Obama is Kharzi's bitch, and he knows it.


j-mac
 
Here is what the guy we plan to turn over security there to said:

"KABUL, Afghanistan — The Americans in Afghanistan are “demons.”

They claim they burned Korans by mistake, but really those were “Satanic acts that will never be forgiven by apologies.”


I wouldn't care if it was on purpose, This is not an atrocity.


The massacre of 16 Afghan children, women and men by an American soldier “was not the first incident, indeed it was the 100th, the 200th and 500th incident.”


by one man, and you want to claim all of the military are war criminals?


Such harsh talk may sound as if it comes from the Taliban, but those are all remarks either made personally by the United States’ increasingly hostile ally here, President Hamid Karzai, or issued by his office in recent days and weeks.

so the **** what? he has to suck the talibans dick if he wants to stay in power. It's sorta like watching you say nasty things about all of the US military, based on isolated incidents that were dealt with by those in charge.

The strongest such outburst came Friday. “Let’s pray for God to rescue us from these two demons,” Mr. Karzai said, apparently holding back tears at a meeting with relatives of the massacre victims, and clearly referring to the United States and the Taliban in the same breath. “There are two demons in our country now.”


Good, let's get out, and tell them next bomb we track back to your country, we will plow it into a parking lot. What will you say then? :roll:



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Wouldn't this be a failure of the administration?
 


An atrocity is if you take a woman, rape her, and then shoot her in front of her husband, an atrocity is cutting off the heads of your enemy, an attrocity is wonton killing of civillians...

Burning a book, or posing with the remains of a dead terrorist who spent his life trying to kill you, is NOT an atrocity. /facepalm
 
Yea, the Afghans are trying to kill american soliders because we invaded there country. If a foreign country invaded us you better believe there would be americans taking up arms against them.

You're right though, we should chill out on the whole sending troops to kill foreigners. its only war right :roll:

It isn't the Afghans that are trying to kill American soldiers it is the Taliban, Al Quada and other Terrorists that are. At least be honest. And last time I checked it was a foreign group that attacked the USA first... I am not sure how old you are but that is simply a fact.

If our nation deems that sending soldiers to a war is needed then a war is what happens and people should understand that war is not pretty and we can never make it so. The war in Afghanistan is just... the war in Iraq is stupid. Learn to differentiate and when you think that you can present a more worth while debate then let me know. ;)

oh wow I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was dealing with someone who knew what the afghans are thinking! Your ability to psychoanalyze an entire country of people is amazing, I'm recomending you for a nobel prize. You deserve it.

Great retort... :roll:
 
not everybody should be allowed to serve in the military...
 
Then you must be surprised that the guy we plan to turn over security there to thinks it is an atrocity. I'm guessing what he and the other Afghans think about it is a hell of lot more significant than what you think about it.
Not really.



Oh, come now. This is one of the most blatant forms of ad hominem.
That was a "blatant" attack on your person? Saying that your opinion is not as significant as the view of the leader of Afghanistan on an issue within his own country?

Really?

Wow, the sensitivity and self importance levels are getting pretty high around here.
 
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not everybody should be allowed to serve in the military...

Ddin't we lower standards because recuritment was low? Not saying it had anything to with what happened here, but your statement led me to recall smoehting about that.
 
That was a "blatant" attack on your person? Saying that your opinion is not as significant as the view of the leader of Afghanistan on an issue within his own country?

Really?

Wow, the sensitivity levels are getting pretty high around here.



I agree, when we start calling taking pictures with dead terrorist scum body parts, and accidental koran burnings "atrocities", it would seem folks are pretty damn sensitive.... :lamo
 
I agree, when we start calling taking pictures with dead terrorist scum body parts, and accidental koran burnings "atrocities", it would seem folks are pretty damn sensitive.... :lamo
Hey Rev...if you got a beef with Karzia, take it up with him. If you still think that the soldiers are correct, take it up with US Command. I'm sure you can win both arguments against them. Not that I think you can since you can't even grasp the context of my comments.
 
Hey Rev...if you got a beef with Karzia, take it up with him. If you still think that the soldiers are correct, take it up with US Command. I'm sure you can win both arguments against them. Not that I think you can since you can't even grasp the context of my comments.




I did. You view running out of ring dings as an "atrocity" especially if a US soldier ate the last one. /facepalm
 
I did. You view running out of ring dings as an "atrocity" especially if a US soldier ate the last one. /facepalm
No, you just proved again that you totally missed the context of my comments, I gave no opinion on the "atrocity", I commented on "Republics" idea of what an ad hominem is.

Take your hands away from your face..... and read...then think....then respond.

PS....."ring ding"?..... pastry...or the sound a 2-stroke engine makes?
 
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Hey Rev...if you got a beef with Karzia, take it up with him. If you still think that the soldiers are correct, take it up with US Command. I'm sure you can win both arguments against them. Not that I think you can since you can't even grasp the context of my comments.

I don't think anyone in "US Command" called it an atrocity.....
 
I don't think anyone in "US Command" called it an atrocity.....


They didn't, but Panetta fell all over himself to get to the camera to apologize for this over three year old picture.


j-mac
 
I don't think anyone in "US Command" called it an atrocity.....
Um...I did not say they did.

What is up with you guys? Is reading that un-fundamental?
 
Um...I did not say they did.

What is up with you guys? Is reading that un-fundamental?

I've found it a common tactic for some to misrepresent what is said. I've never found an easy way to deal with it. :shrug:
 
Um...I did not say they did.

What is up with you guys? Is reading that un-fundamental?

Your beef with Rev seems to be regarding his ridiculing people for calling it an atrocity, to which you instructed he should take up with "US Command". You inferred....probably unknowingly in your zeal to be condescending.
 
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I've found it a common tactic for some to misrepresent what is said. I've never found an easy way to deal with it. :shrug:

Hmmm, really. Where did Rev say that what the soldiers did was "correct", as Gimme implied?
 
Your beef with Rev seems to be regarding his ridiculing people for calling it an atrocity, to which you instructed he should take up with "US Command". You inferred....probably unknowingly in your zeal to be condescending.
Again, you and the "Rev" can't comprehend what I said....and it is not my fault since I already showed how he did not get the context of what I wrote originally. You compounded the problem by thinking that the two comments I made after that about his "beefs" were one in the same. They were not. He has previously said that the soldiers did nothing wrong, but US command disagrees. He thinks that Karzia is wrong in his comments, well take it up with Karzia...and by the way, my comment on that original point had nothing to do with whether or not the actions by the troops were atrocious.

Why I even bother explain these things to you guys is beyond me.
 
Um...I did not say they did.

What is up with you guys? Is reading that un-fundamental?

Ummm... where does he say that you said that they did?

What is up with you guys? Is context completely foreign to you?

And Boo Hoo Radly... :(
 
Again, you and the "Rev" can't comprehend what I said....and it is not my fault since I already showed how he did not get the context of what I wrote originally. You compounded the problem by thinking that the two comments I made after that about his "beefs" were one in the same. They were not. He has previously said that the soldiers did nothing wrong, but US command disagrees. He thinks that Karzia is wrong in his comments, well take it up with Karzia...and by the way, my comment on that original point had nothing to do with whether or not the actions by the troops were atrocious.

A big blah blah explaination... thanks.

Why I even bother explain these things to you guys is beyond me.

You are so much smarter than we are... couldn't you just explain it to us? Not that we would get it though.
 
Hmmm, really. Where did Rev say that what the soldiers did was "correct", as Gimme implied?

Perhaps you read too much into comments. See this response by GMST:

GMST said:
No, you just proved again that you totally missed the context of my comments, I gave no opinion on the "atrocity", I commented on "Republics" idea of what an ad hominem is.

Take your hands away from your face..... and read...then think....then respond.

PS....."ring ding"?..... pastry...or the sound a 2-stroke engine makes?
 
I've found it a common tactic for some to misrepresent what is said. I've never found an easy way to deal with it. :shrug:



Yes, calling non atrocities, atrocities, is a great example. Thanks for agreeing with me. :pimpdaddy:
 
Your beef with Rev seems to be regarding his ridiculing people for calling it an atrocity, to which you instructed he should take up with "US Command". You inferred....probably unknowingly in your zeal to be condescending.



Boo's condensation comes from all this being "theoretical" for him..... ;)
 
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