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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

How are these guys putting anyone at greater risk and undermining the mission?

What are you worried about? That the Taliban might start to dislike us, or something?

Grow up!


You wouldn't be able to comprehend why Afghans would be upset about an invading arming desecrating corpses of their fellow countrymen, so I won't waste time trying to explain it to you.
 
They should be human, which they are. There's nothing wrong with what they're doing.


It wouldn't bother you to see US corpses being desecrated by an invading army? Just normal human activity eh?

Boys just got to have fun?
 
The likelihood is that this sort of thing has gone on during wartime ever since there were humans. The difference is, now it can be videoed and sent around the world in a matter of minutes. Before, no one but the soldiers involved saw it.

War is what it is. It involves killing and maiming the enemy until he gives up. There is nothing humanitarian or glorious about it. If we don't have the stomach for war, real war, then we shouldn't be starting them.

Or, why we should end them, just like we did with the Vietnam war.
 
Hmmm.....There is absolutely nothing wrong with collective national vengeance when attacked by cowards and there is certainly nothing wrong with seeking justice for 3k of our murdered citizens..post 9/11
I really don't think you can classify this as collective national vengeance. If there's one thing I was and still am absolutely convinced of after my 15 month afghanistan tour, is that we're not protecting America or doing America any kind of service. That being said, I personally would like to think that we're better than them, and are for the most part a righteous army. As a former grunt, I get why they did it. We're pushing these guys past their breaking point, and it's extremely hard for any of them to even remotely give a f***.

The russians tried to conquer afghanistan with extreme violence, shooting and raping practically everything that moved, and it didn't work out for them. We on the other hand attempt to gain the support of the people, and things like this undermine that. Although I ultimately believe that afghanistan is unwinnable, I think we're having a lot easier time fighting a fringe group of insurgents vs the entirety of the civilian population.

Barrack? You here? Hey everybody! The one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama has joined us. Do we bow to him or does he bow to us?
Afghanistan in my opinion is the worst country on the planet, it's a desolate money pit, and America is growing tired of wasting trillions of dollars on wars that don't even improve our safety. I'd say I hate Obama more than the average guy, but to liken anyone who is against the war to that POS is ridiculous.
 
Personally, I wouldn't pose with human body parts, that's just me. However, when you are constantly around death and destruction, you get numb to it. These guys are in the 82d Airborne which means, if they are grunts, they are around a lot of death and destruction. The life of the enemy becomes cheap. I have personally walked up to dead bodies and made comments about them that would surely make the average Amercian cringe. That's the way you deal with it. Sorry if that doesn't fit into everyone's perfect idea of an American servicemember but thats the way it is. If you don't like it, stop voting for people that send us to these stupid wars. All of you hypocrites want to throw stones at guys like me but you'll keep voting for these war hound president's we've had over the past 12 years. Screw you. Change your voting habits then come talk to me.
 
You wouldn't be able to comprehend why Afghans would be upset about an invading arming desecrating corpses of their fellow countrymen, so I won't waste time trying to explain it to you.

:lol: that's cute. :) tell me more about Afghan social norms :)
 
Personally, I wouldn't pose with human body parts, that's just me. However, when you are constantly around death and destruction, you get numb to it. These guys are in the 82d Airborne which means, if they are grunts, they are around a lot of death and destruction. The life of the enemy becomes cheap. I have personally walked up to dead bodies and made comments about them that would surely make the average Amercian cringe. That's the way you deal with it. Sorry if that doesn't fit into everyone's perfect idea of an American servicemember but thats the way it is. If you don't like it, stop voting for people that send us to these stupid wars. All of you hypocrites want to throw stones at guys like me but you'll keep voting for these war hound president's we've had over the past 12 years. Screw you. Change your voting habits then come talk to me.

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For all of those in this thread who haven't served in a combat zone, but nonetheless feel capable of judging these guys for being in a picture:

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The above isn't exactly required reading in military PME, but it is "strongly encouraged", due to it's high correspondence with reality. I suggest you go learn how stupid you sound.
 
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its interesting to know that you would sympathize with Taliban or Al Qaeda soldiers posing with the mangled remains of American troops, in photos for their friends.

It's interesting to know that you and Catawba think that twisting someone's words makes your argument have merit.
 


That is one of the best posters I have seen showing an American GI.
The dead Afghans picture taking by the soldiers was dumb and getting it released is even dumber. The people who serve in the military are a representive mixture of our country. You have bright intelligent members and then you have some not so bright ones. For the most part everyone I ever served with were some of the best people I have ever known and would bend over backwards for you.

I don't know if it is a generational thing but my buddies who served in Vietnam are not ones you would ever suspect to be former soldiers of the confict in Vietnam. They just don't talk about it unless you ask them. Forty years and few extra pounds disguises them from being former soldiers. They are just not "in your face about the carnage" as some of the posters here. One of my childhood buddies describes his time in Vietnam as having some good parts and some things he didn't like and that is all you will get from him. I don't know of being quiet about it is a good thing either but it is just an observed difference.
 
It wouldn't bother you to see US corpses being desecrated by an invading army? Just normal human activity eh?

Boys just got to have fun?

It happened in Somalia.
 
I don't understand the taking of souvenir war pictures, unless it's just to show them to other guys involved in the war. Once they get state side, they don't have any value.
 
some Americans are self-loathing, and can only condemn their country, politicians, and soldiers.

while other Americans are blind-Nationalists, unable to ever criticize their soldiers even when they clearly do wrong.

two sides of the same sad coin.
 
It wouldn't bother you to see US corpses being desecrated by an invading army? Just normal human activity eh?

Boys just got to have fun?

I'm sure the other side is doing the same damn thing.
 
I don't know, why don't you ask them?

so, you are the one insisting they are doing the same thing
but i am the one who is supposed to find the evidence of your assertion

obviously, i call BS on your claim
 
Personally, I wouldn't pose with human body parts, that's just me. However, when you are constantly around death and destruction, you get numb to it. These guys are in the 82d Airborne which means, if they are grunts, they are around a lot of death and destruction. The life of the enemy becomes cheap. I have personally walked up to dead bodies and made comments about them that would surely make the average Amercian cringe. That's the way you deal with it. Sorry if that doesn't fit into everyone's perfect idea of an American servicemember but thats the way it is. If you don't like it, stop voting for people that send us to these stupid wars. All of you hypocrites want to throw stones at guys like me but you'll keep voting for these war hound president's we've had over the past 12 years. Screw you. Change your voting habits then come talk to me.

I have a better idea: all the cats that are doing the bitching, can ruck up, grab a weapon and stand a post.
 
Who said they couldn't report on it? A story of the incident would have been just fine, pictures? Nah, that was put out there to sell papers at the expense of whether or not it ends up being responsible for additional deaths of the papers own fellow countrymen in harms way. I think that is what is disgusting.

j-mac

I think you miss the point. What happens after they do this is a different issue. The fact is once they do this, someone will post it. That's the world we live in. One way or another, it will be out there for all to see. The only way to stop that, is to stop taking those kind of pictures. Those taking them have a PERSONAL responsibility not to do this. You want to criticize both, fine. But don't skip over the ones who created the problem.
 
I don't know. Pictures played a role in finally putting an end to the war in Vietnam. Maybe if the people back home get to see what is really happening, we'll have less of an appetite for war. Maybe we'll eventually quit having wars at all. That won't happen in my lifetime, most likely, but perhaps one day we'll really get beyond the need to go off and kill people.

Very true! One of the big turning points in US sentiment, and that of the South Vietnamese, against the Vietnam war was after the pictures came out of the My Lai Massacre of women and children.
 
Very true! One of the big turning points in US sentiment, and that of the South Vietnamese, against the Vietnam war was after the pictures came out of the My Lai Massacre of women and children.

I remember a trial, not any pictures.
 
I'm sure the other side is doing the same damn thing.

I like to think there is a difference between us and the terrorists treatment of people living and dead.
 
I have a better idea: all the cats that are doing the bitching, can ruck up, grab a weapon and stand a post.

Or, demand that our troops be brought home from a futile war, just as we did in Vietnam.
 
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