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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

Just because others commit war crimes does not mean that the U.S. should engage in the commission of war crimes, otherwise the U.S. would lose the ability to distinguish itself from those who actively commit or rationalize the commission of war crimes.

They didn't commit a war crime. Offending you is not a crime, war or otherwise.
 
why do I feel its troubling to attempt to sympathize & understand taking photos with the remains of a dead enemy?

maybe because I have a clear sense of right & wrong, moral & immoral, and common decency.

In our society, even the remains of our enemies deserve respect. This is what makes us right...and them wrong. This is what makes us good..and them evil.

Forgive me for having a inflated view of American values.

Maybe you can explain why taking a picture of the remains is wrong then.
 
The likelihood is that this sort of thing has gone on during wartime ever since there were humans. The difference is, now it can be videoed and sent around the world in a matter of minutes. Before, no one but the soldiers involved saw it.

War is what it is. It involves killing and maiming the enemy until he gives up. There is nothing humanitarian or glorious about it. If we don't have the stomach for war, real war, then we shouldn't be starting them.
 
Just because others commit war crimes does not mean that the U.S. should engage in the commission of war crimes, otherwise the U.S. would lose the ability to distinguish itself from those who actively commit or rationalize the commission of war crimes.

Whoa there....It may be stupid, it may distasteful or gross, childish, lacking in discipline, or whatever, it isn't a crime punishable in a civilian court and nothing more than punishment under UCMJ should come of it

Morals are subjective and are simply a matter of taste. My morals are different than yours or anyone else's, they cannot be used solely as a basis for an argument.

You find a pic of severed legs offensive, but not the act which caused them to be severed.

Thats bull****...and nothing more than false moral outrage.
 
You find a pic of severed legs offensive, but not the act which caused them to be severed.

I think that's a fair point.
 
The likelihood is that this sort of thing has gone on during wartime ever since there were humans. The difference is, now it can be videoed and sent around the world in a matter of minutes. Before, no one but the soldiers involved saw it.

War is what it is. It involves killing and maiming the enemy until he gives up. There is nothing humanitarian or glorious about it. If we don't have the stomach for war, real war, then we shouldn't be starting them.

Agreed. Why start a ****ing war if we don't have the stomach for said war
 
How on earth could you possibly take what I said to mean that?

Point....If you refuse to abide by a convention you are no longer protected by it. In this case, the Taliban

How can you say, blowing someones legs off is ok as long as it has a military purpose/objective, but then taking a stupid pic with their disfigured limbs is a war crime?

Tell me, wise one?
 
Just because others commit war crimes does not mean that the U.S. should engage in the commission of war crimes, otherwise the U.S. would lose the ability to distinguish itself from those who actively commit or rationalize the commission of war crimes.

Taking photos of dead bad guys isn't a war crime. Violation of the regulations, perhaps, but not a war crime.
 
and neither do some American troops, apparently.

and no, not all Taliban are terrorists. Many of them are just a guerilla army.

What a day, when Libbos make excuses for the Taliban.
 
FACT: many folks, especially if they are not of the older generation, refer to blacks as "Negroes" or "Colored", merely to be provocative & offensive. This is clearly what Apdst is doing....and its also not the first time he has refered to blacks using VERY offensive & hateful language.

But...but...but I'm black! I can say anything I want and there's nothing wrong with it. Get a grip.
 
They didn't commit a war crime. Offending you is not a crime, war or otherwise.

I was referring strictly to the following analogy: "Taliban begins killing EMT/medics, we can now begin killing their bearded toweled medics...Is that ok?" That would constitute a war crime.

The unprofessional conduct mentioned at the beginning of this thread is a different matter. I believe the individuals responsible should be held accountable, but their conduct does not rise to the level of a war crime. It was childish, immature, and unprofessional. A war crime is far graver.
 
But...but...but I'm black! I can say anything I want and there's nothing wrong with it. Get a grip.

I read this and thought of Clayton Bixby. The black White Supremist.

I am in a funny frame of mind today I suppose.

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Really! The Taliban are about as conservative as you can get.


One shouldn't compare, or confuse totalitarianism with conservatism...It is rather foolish to think that radical taliban terrorists are conservative in any way the same as that of conservatives in this country.


j-mac
 
Ehh, stuff like this happens all the time. It's kinda ****ed up but not a big deal IMO.

What IS a big deal is how these photos became public.

It is true it's not new. When I joined the service, I saw this then from VN. It bothered me some then, and made me wonder about those showing them, but it isn't new.
 
Its interesting how the same folks who said "they hate us & attack us because of our values" are now saying "war is hell and we should accept that and not cry over such abuses".
 
Its interesting how the same folks who said "they hate us & attack us because of our values" are now saying "war is hell and we should accept that and not cry over such abuses".

they hate us because to them we are infidels and thus less than human. nothing we do can make them hate us any more. all it does is give the libbos something to cry over and rationalize terrorist scum behavior
 
they hate us because to them we are infidels and thus less than human. nothing we do can make them hate us any more. all it does is give the libbos something to cry over and rationalize terrorist scum behavior

and yet, we are talking about the scum behavior of a few American troops.

ironic huh?
 
and yet, we are talking about the scum behavior of a few American troops.

ironic huh?

Yes, we should instead be talking about the despicable behavior of the Taliban, and suicide bombers and their indiscriminate murder of women and children.


j-mac
 
Yes, we should instead be talking about the despicable behavior of the Taliban, and suicide bombers and their indiscriminate murder of women and children.


j-mac

if i am not mistaken, you are not prohibited from initiating another thread on the topic you would prefer to post about
 
taking pictures next to the corpses of dead enemies, has nothing to do with fighting a war.


Many hypocrites on this thread with their fake moral outrage....

How awesome it is seeing a 500lb bomb drop and you go wow, man!... that was ****ing awesome!!! But show them the end result of piles of unrecognizable burned flesh and guts....and the fake moral outrage.

As I said before, if killing them isn't offensive, neither are their bodies.

Now, back to the kitchen...sumtin' is burnin'
 
Point....If you refuse to abide by a convention you are no longer protected by it. In this case, the Taliban

How can you say, blowing someones legs off is ok as long as it has a military purpose/objective, but then taking a stupid pic with their disfigured limbs is a war crime?

Tell me, wise one?

You really cant figure out the difference between taking a life in war, and openly mocking a dead body by posing it and tkaing pictures to exploit the dead while you are representing America? You are messing with me.
 
Many hypocrites on this thread with their fake moral outrage....

How awesome it is seeing a 500lb bomb drop and you go wow, man!... that was ****ing awesome!!! But show them the end result of piles of unrecognizable burned flesh and guts....and the fake moral outrage.

As I said before, if killing them isn't offensive, neither are their bodies.

Now, back to the kitchen...sumtin' is burnin'

Killing them is not offensive. Their bodies are not offensive. Posing the dead body to mock them for your own amusement is ****ing disgusting. You bury the dead, you dont use a dead body as a toy.
 
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