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Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

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Appeals court upholds Arizona's voter ID requirement | Fox News

Looks like the case was heard EN BANC meaning all the judges heard the case rather than the normal panel of 3 judges:

A 12-member panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals says in a ruling Tuesday that there was evidence Arizona has racially polarized voting and a history of discrimination against Latinos.
But the court concluded that no proof was offered to show that the ID requirement gave Latinos fewer opportunities to vote.
The court, however, found that the federal National Voter Registration Act trumps another section of the Arizona law that requires people to prove their citizenship in order to vote.




Caveat-I am guessing on this since I don't know off the top how many judges are on the 9th Circuit


second Caveat-the Ninth circuit is the most overruled Circuit in the USA by the Supremes
 
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[...] Caveat-I am guessing on this since I don't know off the top how many judges are on the 9th Circuit

second Caveat-the Ninth circuit is the most overruled Circuit in the USA by the Supremes
Hmmm... surprisingly little research and a surprising amount of error for someone in your claimed profession.

The court, however, found that the federal National Voter Registration Act trumps another section of the Arizona law that requires people to prove their citizenship in order to vote.

In any event, the case is interesting since proof of citizenship is often the driving factor behind those supporting the ALEC/GOP efforts to impose state photo ID requirements across the nation (that pesky illegal alien vote, or perhaps just illegal votes by aliens -- E.T., phone in your ID).
 
Appeals court upholds Arizona's voter ID requirement | Fox News

Looks like the case was heard EN BANC meaning all the judges heard the case rather than the normal panel of 3 judges:

A 12-member panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals says in a ruling Tuesday that there was evidence Arizona has racially polarized voting and a history of discrimination against Latinos.
But the court concluded that no proof was offered to show that the ID requirement gave Latinos fewer opportunities to vote.
The court, however, found that the federal National Voter Registration Act trumps another section of the Arizona law that requires people to prove their citizenship in order to vote.




Caveat-I am guessing on this since I don't know off the top how many judges are on the 9th Circuit


second Caveat-the Ninth circuit is the most overruled Circuit in the USA by the Supremes

And you claim to have argued federal appeals? Better check 28 U.S.C. § 46(c) on that tough en banc question.
 
Hmmm... surprisingly little research and a surprising amount of error for someone in your claimed profession.



In any event, the case is interesting since proof of citizenship is often the driving factor behind those supporting the ALEC/GOP efforts to impose state photo ID requirements across the nation (that pesky illegal alien vote, or perhaps just illegal votes by aliens -- E.T., phone in your ID).

I saw the headline on another board and posted it here. I did nothing more than that. so your attempt to attack me fails. and there are enough people here to know I am an attorney so you sort of fail again.

and yes the 9th is the most overturned circuit
 
And you claim to have argued federal appeals? Better check 28 U.S.C. § 46(c) on that tough en banc question.

pretty lame-I guess you are upset with the ruling
 
pretty lame-I guess you are upset with the ruling

No, just astonished that you don't know that a federal court of appeals panel is made up of three judges, unless it's an en banc decision or in the DC Circuit.
 
No, just astonished that you don't know that a federal court of appeals panel is made up of three judges, unless it's an en banc decision or in the DC Circuit.

duh I said the normal procedure is a three judge panel. I don't know how many judges are on the 9th Circuit without looking. Many courts have vacancies due to congressional wrangling and having not ever argued an en banc case I cannot recall if senior status judges take part
 
This law discriminates against rich white people whose butlers are too lazy to carry their ID for them.
 
Ladies and gents, this is what you call doubling down on fail :lamo

this is what is known as derailing a thread because you want to attack me personally rather than deal with the subject matter. I didn't make any comment that would justify this sort of nonsense-you must be bitter from something else
 
Appeals court upholds Arizona's voter ID requirement | Fox News

Looks like the case was heard EN BANC meaning all the judges heard the case rather than the normal panel of 3 judges:

A 12-member panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals says in a ruling Tuesday that there was evidence Arizona has racially polarized voting and a history of discrimination against Latinos.
But the court concluded that no proof was offered to show that the ID requirement gave Latinos fewer opportunities to vote.
The court, however, found that the federal National Voter Registration Act trumps another section of the Arizona law that requires people to prove their citizenship in order to vote.

Caveat-I am guessing on this since I don't know off the top how many judges are on the 9th Circuit

second Caveat-the Ninth circuit is the most overruled Circuit in the USA by the Supremes

I'm appalled that, according to Federal law, one doesn't even have to prove citizenship in order to vote. I hadn't thought about it, but it's absolutely ludicrous. W.T.F.?
 
Indeed, Maggie, as I noted in my first post:

[...] In any event, the case is interesting since proof of citizenship is often the driving factor behind those supporting the ALEC/GOP efforts to impose state photo ID requirements across the nation (that pesky illegal alien vote, or perhaps just illegal votes by aliens -- E.T., phone in your ID).
 
I'm appalled that, according to Federal law, one doesn't even have to prove citizenship in order to vote. I hadn't thought about it, but it's absolutely ludicrous. W.T.F.?

My feeling is that if someone so motivated to vote that he or she would risk imprisonment for perjury and voter fraud, and/or deportation ... they're probably a lot more patriotic than most actual Americans.
 
indeed, you gotta respect a guy or gal who is soo determined to vote, that he would risk going to prison to do it.

...meanwhile, many Americans whine & bitch about govt. but don't have the integrity to vote.
 
indeed, you gotta respect a guy or gal who is soo determined to vote, that he would risk going to prison to do it.

...meanwhile, many Americans whine & bitch about govt. but don't have the integrity to vote.

Why on earth would you respect a lazy piece of **** who comes here illegally, becomes an unwanted burden on society, then disrespects our country by further violating our laws and tries disrupt our political system?
 
Why on earth would you respect a lazy piece of **** who comes here illegally, becomes an unwanted burden on society, then disrespects our country by further violating our laws and tries disrupt our political system?

Wow, you sure packed in a lot of bigoted assumptions in one short sentence.
 
My feeling is that if someone so motivated to vote that he or she would risk imprisonment for perjury and voter fraud, and/or deportation ... they're probably a lot more patriotic than most actual Americans.

We've seen a half dozen cases of voter fraud prosecuted in the last few months.

I saw nothing suggesting patriotism in any of those cases. Can you point some out for me ?

Thanks.
 
They aren't assumptions and its not bigotry. They are criminals.

Au contraire -- they are bigoted assumptions....

Why on earth would you respect a lazy piece of ****

Your bigoted assumption being that all undocumented aliens are lazy, and pieces of ****.
I suggest you spend a couple months picking fruit in the blazing sun before you call these people lazy.

becomes an unwanted burden on society

Another bigoted assumption. Obviously many undocumented aliens contribute more to our society than they take from it.

disrespects our country by further violating our laws and tries disrupt our political system

Another bigoted assumption. I can hardly think of a greater sign of respect for our democratic system than risking prison and deportation in order to cast a statistically meaningless vote. Lord knows there are enough legal Americans who aren't willing to risk missing Oprah to exercise their privilege.
 
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My feeling is that if someone so motivated to vote that he or she would risk imprisonment for perjury and voter fraud, and/or deportation ... they're probably a lot more patriotic than most actual Americans.

So does that mean you support non citizens voting in federal elections?

Do you support not showing ID for getting a loan, opening a bank account, etc?. Same things applies, you risk improsonment for perjury, fraud, etc.

We all know everyone tells the truth and every persons word is their bond, right?:mrgreen:
 
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Your bigoted assumption being that all undocumented aliens are lazy, and pieces of ****.
I suggest you spend a couple months picking fruit in the blazing sun before you call these people lazy.

I worked raking and picking blue berries and digging clams many summers. They are still lazy. If they are too lazy to follow the procedure to come here legally than they are lazy. If they cannot respect our laws then they are pieces of ****.

Obviously many undocumented aliens contribute more to our society than they take from it.

No they dont. Many LEGAL aliens contribute to our society. The illegals do not contribute more than they take.

Another bigoted assumption. I can hardly think of a greater sign of respect for our democratic system than risking prison and deportation in order to cast a statistically meaningless vote.

Do you respect those who risk prison and deportation to bring drugs here? They are risking prison to rape and murder too! Hooray for them. Risking prison to break the law is hardly admirable.
 
I worked raking and picking blue berries and digging clams many summers. They are still lazy. If they are too lazy to follow the procedure to come here legally than they are lazy. If they cannot respect our laws then they are pieces of ****.

Wow, you spent a few summers picking blueberries and digging clams! :lol:

Now spend the rest of your life, day in and day out, picking fruit in the blazing sun and you can call those immigrants lazy.

No they dont. Many LEGAL aliens contribute to our society. The illegals do not contribute more than they take.

That's just ignorance. In fact, because many undocumented workers pay into social security and medicare via payroll taxes, and can't get those benefits, they end up paying more into the system than they take out of it. In fact, the average undocumented worker pays more in that he or she takes out over all, but they do tend to cost the states money.

Do you respect those who risk prison and deportation to bring drugs here? They are risking prison to rape and murder too! Hooray for them. Risking prison to break the law is hardly admirable.

If you had picked more fruit you might know the difference between apples and oranges. Drug dealers sell drugs to make money. They do it for selfish reasons. Voting ... not so much.

And btw, thanks for the additional bigoted generalizations. Very classy.
 
AdamT:
I don't call migrant farm workers lazy. Many are hard workers. Many are in the US legally, some are not. The discussion of legal or illegal alien workers is for another thread.

I think you stated voting is important. I agree with you that many citizens do not participate in the process. That is a shame on them.
What I find facinating is all the rub over an ID for voting. It seems those that oppose voter ID have no issue with proving who you are for other "transactions" that take place in the US. Why is that?
 
AdamT:
I don't call migrant farm workers lazy. Many are hard workers. Many are in the US legally, some are not. The discussion of legal or illegal alien workers is for another thread.

I think you stated voting is important. I agree with you that many citizens do not participate in the process. That is a shame on them.
What I find facinating is all the rub over an ID for voting. It seems those that oppose voter ID have no issue with proving who you are for other "transactions" that take place in the US. Why is that?

Republicans are trying to use voter ID laws to suppress Democratic voter turnout. That's why Democrats have a problem with it.
 
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