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Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

nota bene said:
Maybe; maybe not. Maybe moms have a lot more in common than what separates them. Consider, for example, Karen Santorum and what she has in common with other moms whose babies have trisomy 18. I don't think race or education or bank account matters when it comes to the big stuff.
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The only way to realy tell is to get to know her personally and see where she stands.

Regardless: I read that she's staying out of the political arena a bit because it gets to her - and I don't blame her - people should really focus on her husband in the end, I agree.
 
SheWolf said:
A lot of women are not going to relate to Ann Romney which is going to be The Problem, as opposed to pondering if it's a personal or character problem of Ann's for not having actually worked.
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You feel a lot of women relate to Michelle Obama who, until her husband was nominated, never felt pride in her country??
 
To be the devils advocate for a sec.....how can someone describe chocolate if they never tasted it?
 
Parrish said:
Someone said that Ann Romney was demonized. I disagree. She was just exposed as a woman who really doesn't get what most women experience on a daily basis.

Yes, being a stay at home parent is work but she never had to juggle raising her children, hold down a job, and have the worries that a working parent goes through 24/7.

I think most reasonable people knew what Hilary Rosen was talking about.
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Yeah you are right, MIchelle is far more realistic-a woman who got into Princeton and Harvard due almost solely from her race and then got a 200K salary increase because her Husband slimed his way to a senate seat.
 
Parrish said:
Someone said that Ann Romney was demonized. I disagree. She was just exposed as a woman who really doesn't get what most women experience on a daily basis.

Yes, being a stay at home parent is work but she never had to juggle raising her children, hold down a job, and have the worries that a working parent goes through 24/7.

I think most reasonable people knew what Hilary Rosen was talking about.
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Yeah, because she made good decisions in her life. Married a man who stayed with the family, loves his family, not some dead beat dad who leaves the mother with a bunch of toddlers. She should be condemned because she chose wisely???
 
TurtleDude said:
Yeah you are right, MIchelle is far more realistic-a woman who got into Princeton and Harvard due almost solely from her race and then got a 200K salary increase because her Husband slimed his way to a senate seat.
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She did have a job though. Way to keep it classy, unlike those unprincipled lefties who go after a man's wife...

Frankly, I don't care. Ann Romney has MS and her husband is beyond rich. I wouldn't work either.
 
Rapunzel52 said:
Yeah, because she made good decisions in her life. Married a man who stayed with the family, loves his family, not some dead beat dad who leaves the mother with a bunch of toddlers. She should be condemned because she chose wisely???
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Don't talk about Newt's wives like that. It's not their fault.
 
Parrish said:
Someone said that Ann Romney was demonized. I disagree. She was just exposed as a woman who really doesn't get what most women experience on a daily basis.
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Michelle Obama doesn't either. Heck, no FLOTUS or would-be FLOTUS does since the average woman's husband isn't running for President.

Parrish said:
I think most reasonable people knew what Hilary Rosen was talking about.
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Right. Which is why she apologized.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
The only way to realy tell is to get to know her personally and see where she stands.

Regardless: I read that she's staying out of the political arena a bit because it gets to her - and I don't blame her - people should really focus on her husband in the end, I agree.
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Exactly--the focus should be on the candidate and the issues.

As for my other point, I don't need to know Karen Santorum personally to know that irrespective of her place in society or personal background, she feels a kinship with other moms whose babies have trisonomy 18 that breaks socio-economic and racial barriers.

What I mean in the larger sense about moms is that there is much more that we share than what separates us. Don't care who you are or how much you have in the bank, no amount of money will blow that sick baby's nose for you. No nanny or pediatrician can "make it all better."
 
SheWolf said:
A middle class woman raising 5 kids is a lot different from an extremely wealthy mother raising 5 kids. I used to watch the Real Housewives a lot, and all of them had nannies and maids. I really don't think it's the same. Wealthy mothers stay home and go to work for different reasons. It's never a issue of finding an affordable babysitter or having to stay home to save money, or being forced to miss work because of kid has a common, childhood illness. Some women would love to be a housewife, but the family needs two incomes. Some women would hate being a housewife, and that creates conflict in a marriage as well.

I am not trying to talk bad about Ann Romney. All I am saying is that that there is a huge difference in being a housewife depending on a woman's economic status.
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More class warfare....please continue with your jealousy. That damn Ann, she made good decisions in her life...how dare she not have 5 kids with 5 different dads who aren't around.
 
SheWolf said:
What determines if you need a job? I think that that is subjective. Paris Hilton is pretty wealthy, but she took a job on TV, tried to be a singer, acted in some films, etc. Chelsea Clinton would have been fine not working at all, but she went to college and she works.

As a woman, and since this conversation is about women, I would always want to work. If I marry a man capable of supporting me without the need to work, I'd still work because I want to make my own money. I don't want to be financially dependent on somebody else's money, nor would I always want to ask for permission before spending somebody else's money. It doesn't feel secure or safe to me, and especially not if there is a divorce and he doesn't want to pay me alimony. Where would that leave me?

I personally think it's more financially wise of a woman to work and save some money for her self. It's more secure. You can't depend on another person to care for you and provide. A marriage could sour, end in divorce, your spouse could suddenly die, etc. Not having financial independence is risky.

I'd rather invest my money and make my own financial decisions, rather than allow my husband to run my life and retirement with his money.
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ITA...and if you have kids you can put them in daycare for strangers to raise, so you can make money because you don't trust the man you married.
 
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Why is everyone getting all riled about differing opinions? All are valid, depending on what you agree with in the discussion.
Michelle Obama, in my opinion, is the most down to earth first lady the white house has ever had. Why? Because she wears dresses from Target. She doesn't mind getting slimed. She knows what work is like as well as raising children.
I don't know about mrs. romney, but I do know you cannot describe how chocolate tastes unless you have tried it. She never worked outside the home, had to juggle kids and work, choose which to pay...rent or food...she just has no clue any more than a man knows what it's like to give birth.
 
SheWolf said:
What determines if you need a job? I think that that is subjective. Paris Hilton is pretty wealthy, but she took a job on TV, tried to be a singer, acted in some films, etc. Chelsea Clinton would have been fine not working at all, but she went to college and she works.
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Paris Hilton and Chelsea Clinton also don't have MS. And I wasn't aware that either of them are married to a man who has more money than Switzerland.
 
Josie said:
Michelle Obama doesn't either. Heck, no FLOTUS or would-be FLOTUS does since the average woman's husband isn't running for President.



Right. Which is why she apologized.
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Having the POTUS' foot up her ass may have also had an impact.
 
rocket88 said:
She did have a job though. Way to keep it classy, unlike those unprincipled lefties who go after a man's wife...

Frankly, I don't care. Ann Romney has MS and her husband is beyond rich. I wouldn't work either.
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Michelle Obumble is fair game. She has been an advocate of her husband's failed administration. Now, the kids are off limits. I was PISSED when people made fun of Chelsea Clinton; SS agents I know always said she was a delightful and polite young lady. And while she was not beautiful (hardly her fault) she was always neat and she was in great shape.
 
Top Cat said:
Having the POTUS' foot up her ass may have also had an impact.
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Of course. She's a frequent visitor to the POTUS and he doesn't want anyone around him looking bad.
 
SheWolf said:
If I marry a man capable of supporting me without the need to work, I'd still work because I want to make my own money.
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then I'd say you don't understand how a marriage is supposed to work. there is no "my" money or "his" money...it's all OUR money no matter who's name is on the paycheck

I don't want to be financially dependent on somebody else's money,
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even with a job...are you not dependent on your employer's money? they could go out of business, you could get fired or laid off

nor would I always want to ask for permission before spending somebody else's money.
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again shows a lack of understanding of how a marriage is supposed to work. we discuss major expenditures but my wife never has to ask my permission to spend money

It doesn't feel secure or safe to me, and especially not if there is a divorce and he doesn't want to pay me alimony. Where would that leave me?
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with court ordered alimony garnished from his wages if he doesn't want to pay it.

You can't depend on another person to care for you and provide.
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yes you can.

A marriage could sour, end in divorce, your spouse could suddenly die, etc. Not having financial independence is risky.
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that's what alimony and life insurance is for.



I'd rather invest my money and make my own financial decisions, rather than allow my husband to run my life and retirement with his money.
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If those are your concerns, then I'd say you chose poorly when you picked a husband

sounds to me like you assume all men are douchebags.
 
Enola said:
Why is everyone getting all riled about differing opinions? All are valid, depending on what you agree with in the discussion.
Michelle Obama, in my opinion, is the most down to earth first lady the white house has ever had. Why? Because she wears dresses from Target. She doesn't mind getting slimed. She knows what work is like as well as raising children.

I don't know about mrs. romney, but I do know you cannot describe how chocolate tastes unless you have tried it. She never worked outside the home, had to juggle kids and work, choose which to pay...rent or food...she just has no clue any more than a man knows what it's like to give birth.
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Yeah, the comment is valid if you take it for what it obviously meant to show - that Mrs. Romney hasn't had to juggle things most mothers have to which is working a job, particularly while raising children. However, if you want to make a big deal out of the comment, then you can latch onto the "but stay at home moms" work argument which completely misses the intent of the statement.

*FTR, I get a little perturbed when stay-at-home moms get self-righteous about doing a lot of work. I understand it's work to raise children, but it's even more work to raise children and have a job outside of the home so when people try to act like homemaking is the same level of work as full time job + raising kids, I think it's ridiculous.
 
Porchev said:
I am sure this hateful attack on Ann Romney is helping fund raising. I received this link in an email today. I am thinking about contributing myself:

https://www.mittromney.com/donate/moms-economy
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Yeah, the comment was so hurtful to the Romneys that they immediately decided to capitalize on it. LOL, people fall for this faux outrage nonsense so easily.
 
I don't see it as a hateful attack. I see it as someone stating that Mrs. Romney does not really connect to what women face in the workforce who have children.

Using her MS as an excuse doesn't cut it either. There are many who have MS and work.
And the point of her working is moot anyway. The point is, she just doesn't have a clue. So since she doesn't, how will she be able to connect with those who do?

Would you all rather have someone so rich they don't know what its like in every day life to most of us.....or those who know what it's like and can therefore relate??
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Yeah, the comment was so hurtful to the Romneys that they immediately decided to capitalize on it. LOL, people fall for this faux outrage nonsense so easily.
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Seems like a smart move to me.
 
Josie said:
Seems like a smart move to me.
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I didn't say it wasn't smart. I pointed out how easily people fall for the faux outrage of politicians. I can't believe how many people are earnestly defending Mrs. Romney as if she gives a damn about this other than to make some money.
 
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