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Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

TheNextEra said:
You called members of congress Communists, when you actually want to get back to reality, let us know.
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Me? I thought this was about West? Why is it that you liberals can't stick to any given topic without making it personal? Because you have no leg to stand on that is why.

Look, I don't care what you call it, Communism, Socialism, Progressivism, hell, you can call it toadieism for all I care...The ideology, and end result is the same.

j-mac
 
Eighty Deuce said:
That is such bull****.
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Yeah you know what else is bull****?

Accusing 80 member of Congress of being communists because you don't like what they believe.

j-mac said:
Look, I don't care what you call it, Communism, Socialism, Progressivism, hell, you can call it toadieism for all I care...The ideology, and end result is the same.


j-mac
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It isn't, just because you want it to be.
 
j-mac said:
Me? I thought this was about West? Why is it that you liberals can't stick to any given topic without making it personal? Because you have no leg to stand on that is why.

Look, I don't care what you call it, Communism, Socialism, Progressivism, hell, you can call it toadieism for all I care...The ideology, and end result is the same.

j-mac
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There is a difference between heading north and standing on the North Pole. I'd just like to point out again that many folks who claim to despise "communism" can't help but see the world as competing collectives. How can you claim to embrace individualism but then refuse to acknowledge it?
 
Jetboogieman said:
Yeah you know what else is bull****?

Accusing 80 member of Congress of being communists because you don't like what they believe.
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No, grasshopper. If that were case the honorable Representative West would have impugned 192 communists.
 
TheNextEra said:
so in other words, you have no clue to what you are talking about. Thank you for your concession Con.

You have no clue what Socialism means, you have no clue what the left does or does not believe and you have no clue what I (as part of the left) believe.

You're dismissed.
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So in other words, you have nothing to say. Dismissed sir.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Yeah you know what else is bull****?

Accusing 80 member of Congress of being communists because you don't like what they believe.

It isn't, just because you want it to be.
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If they believe in things that Communists believe in... um.... doesn't that make it what it is?
 
TheNextEra said:
Sorry not case closed, Grant is filled with hate Sparkles. It's called truth and you seem to hate that.

How's that lie of Fair and Balanced thing going for ya?
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I'd appreciate if you let me know who I hate. Please be clear.
 
AdamT said:
HUAC and McCarthy were birds of a feather. McCarthy's commie paranoia fed direclty into HUAC's kangaroo court and vice versa.
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Irrelevant. The fact is McCarthy didn't have anything to do with it. You claimed McCarthy ruined that mans life, and he did not. And in fact, there was direct evidence against the man anyway, so his life needed ruined.

The bottom line is, no matter how you cut it, I was right, and you are wrong. The end. Nothing you say will change that. So just keep spouting BS and I'll keep spouting fact.
 
GhostlyJoe said:
There is a difference between heading north and standing on the North Pole. I'd just like to point out again that many folks who claim to despise "communism" can't help but see the world as competing collectives. How can you claim to embrace individualism but then refuse to acknowledge it?
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Who said that you weren't an individual? It isn't conservatives that group people into collective groups for political reasons, that would be liberals.

j-mac
 
Grant said:
I'd appreciate if you let me know who I hate. Please be clear.
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Yeah as if he has an answer other than the blanket leftist "you hate everyone that disagrees with you!".
 
AdamT said:
HUAC and McCarthy were birds of a feather. McCarthy's commie paranoia fed direclty into HUAC's kangaroo court and vice versa.
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No, Joe McCarthy was a Senator and the H in HUAC stand for House.

The big problem was a lack of commie paranoia, not too much of it. Were there more commie paranoia perhaps tens of millions of human lives might have been saved.
 
j-mac said:
Who said that you weren't an individual? It isn't conservatives that group people into collective groups for political reasons, that would be liberals.

j-mac
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You say that, but yet you do so.

Understand that stereotyping is assuming that people within a group who share at least one trait must then also share other traits. When you equate American liberals with Soviet communists and Karl Marx, you're grouping people into collectives so you can denounce them.

What's more, it's all basically for semantic effect. The idea here is to borrow the negative associations of historical communism (revolution, violence, equality of outcome, political oppression) and apply it your political opponents.
 
j-mac said:
Yeah, but it is we whom are always name calling eh? Me thinks not!

j-mac
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Um... being called a commie is simply a reference to some of your fundamental beliefs. Like government control over the economy is good, which many on the left undeniably believe.

Being called what you are, is no more insulting than a boy being called a male, or someone who eats only vegetables being called a vegetarian.

If what you are is an insult to you, then.... CHANGE WHAT YOU ARE. But you don't go around whining that women who sleeping around with men for money, shouldn't be called hookers. You simply stop being a hooker, and then you won't be called one.

Ah... the lost art of logic in American society.
 
Sparkles said:
Um... being called a commie is simply a reference to some of your fundamental beliefs. Like government control over the economy is good, which many on the left undeniably believe.

Being called what you are, is no more insulting than a boy being called a male, or someone who eats only vegetables being called a vegetarian.

If what you are is an insult to you, then.... CHANGE WHAT YOU ARE. But you don't go around whining that women who sleeping around with men for money, shouldn't be called hookers. You simply stop being a hooker, and then you won't be called one.

Ah... the lost art of logic in American society.
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Thanks fascist.
 
Grant said:
Commie good - Fascist bad.

It's a huge part of the leftist DNA.
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Perhaps you could point out the leftists who are openly commending communism, just to clear up any confusion about your claim.
 
GhostlyJoe said:
You say that, but yet you do so.
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Wow, great come back....bet that took all the intellect there was to muster.....:doh

Understand that stereotyping is assuming that people within a group who share at least one trait must then also share other traits. When you equate American liberals with Soviet communists and Karl Marx, you're grouping people into collectives so you can denounce them.
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Oh please, an old spin on the ever tired "not all liberals think the same" but yet when progressive liberals like you speak of conservatives you do exactly what you condemn here. So spare us all...

What's more, it's all basically for semantic effect. The idea here is to borrow the negative associations of historical communism (revolution, violence, equality of outcome, political oppression) and apply it your political opponents.
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Semantic? Nah....I believe it is more dead on accurate assessment.

j-mac
 
Sparkles said:
Um... being called a commie is simply a reference to some of your fundamental beliefs. Like government control over the economy is good, which many on the left undeniably believe.

Being called what you are, is no more insulting than a boy being called a male, or someone who eats only vegetables being called a vegetarian.

If what you are is an insult to you, then.... CHANGE WHAT YOU ARE. But you don't go around whining that women who sleeping around with men for money, shouldn't be called hookers. You simply stop being a hooker, and then you won't be called one.

Ah... the lost art of logic in American society.
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Um....er....What?


j-mac
 
Hare said:
Perhaps you could point out the leftists who are openly commending communism, just to clear up any confusion about your claim.
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That's just it....There aren't any that I know of.


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Wow, great come back....bet that took all the intellect there was to muster.....:doh
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I made an accusation, and I provided evidence. You'd do well to follow my example.

Oh please, an old spin on the ever tired "not all liberals think the same" but yet when progressive liberals like you speak of conservatives you do exactly what you condemn here. So spare us all...
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Once again, you treat your subject as a collective. But you're arguing with me, not with "liberals." I'm sure at some point I've decried "conservatives" -- we all make logical leaps and such on occasion -- so I encourage you to provide evidence for your accusation.

Semantic? Nah....I believe it is more dead on accurate assessment.

j-mac
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Then what is your complaint about communism?
 
This has become one of the most unintelligent threads ever.
 
GhostlyJoe said:
Then what is your complaint about communism?
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Since this is the only thing in your post worth any type of response at all, I'll respond with another question of you. What is about communism that you admire?


j-mac
 
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