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Obama warns 'unelected' Supreme Court against striking down health law

I was just getting ready to post those numbers. When an act of congress fundamentally changes how our society works, I wish it wasn't a partisan vote. Take these for instance, I don't agree with the acts, but I am happier with the voting:

Social Security:
Senate:
Democrats 60 – 1 – 8
Republicans 16 – 5 – 4
Other 1 – 0 – 0
Total 77 – 6 – 12

House:
Democrats 284 – 15 – 20
Republicans 81 – 15 – 4 – 2 (2 guys were present…and so it begins)
Other 7 – 3 – 1
Total 372 – 33 – 25 – 2


Medicare:
Senate:
Democrats 57 – 7 – 4
Republicans 13 – 17 – 2
Total 70 – 24 – 6

House:
Democrats 237 – 48 – 8
Republicans 70 – 68 -2
Total 307 – 116 - 10


Patriot Act:
Senate – 98 – 1 – 1, with a Democrat Nay and a Democrat Not Voting.
House
Republican 211 – 3 – 5 so 5 no votes
Deomcrat 145 – 62 – 4
Independent 1 – 1 – 0
Total 357-66-9
 
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The best thing about Obama's term, and Obamacare especially, is that it has finally put to rest any doubt that left wingers have a complete disdain, utter hatred really, for the Constitution as a whole. It is nothing more than a nuisance that they seek to destroy once and for all.

I see great distress in the future of this nation over that document. It is going to get supremely ugly.
 
The best thing about Obama's term, and Obamacare especially, is that it has finally put to rest any doubt that left wingers have a complete disdain, utter hatred really, for the Constitution as a whole. It is nothing more than a nuisance that they seek to destroy once and for all.

I see great distress in the future of this nation over that document. It is going to get supremely ugly.

Then I guess you would say the same thing about the conservative Heritage Foundation and all the Republican politicians who supported the mandate ... before Obama signed on to it?
 
Then I guess you would say the same thing about the conservative Heritage Foundation and all the Republican politicians who supported the mandate ... before Obama signed on to it?

I would say that the Heritage Foundation and others who support that mandate on a FEDERAL level...if they did...were just as wrong as the Democracts.

I wouldn't say they have the same utter disdain or hatred for the Constitution that the Democrats have because they don't constantly combat the Constitution as the Democrats do.
 
Then I guess you would say the same thing about the conservative Heritage Foundation and all the Republican politicians who supported the mandate ... before Obama signed on to it?

How many times does it need to be said that the mandate is a compromise position issued to counter full on medicare for everyone---which is would NEVER pass. The problem is once you examine what happens when you issue the mandate is you eventually slide into medicare as more and more people are forced out of insurance by the government--which looks to be the results from the Affordable Health Care Act.
 
This President has no respect for any American institution that disagrees with him. He is a dangerous idealogue and needs to be removed this November.
 
it's funny when one can guess the article source before even clicking the thread.

if funny = sad.

No. What's sad is, when all else fails, a liberal blames the source. Here's what Obama said:

"I'm confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress," Obama said. "And I'd just remind conservative commentators that for years what we've heard is the biggest problem on the bench was judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint, that an unelected group of people would somehow overturn a duly constituted and passed law. Well, this is a good example. And I'm pretty confident that this court will recognize that and not take that step."

Read more: Republicans Slam Obama Over Warning To 'unelected' Supreme Court | Fox News

What arrogance.
 
With this law, Obama just wants all of us to experience Freedom, you know

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose..."
and nothing is all Obama left me....
feeling good was easy, Lord, before Obama gave us the blues....
feeling good was easy enough for me...
easy enough before Obama screwed me....
 
it's funny when one can guess the article source before even clicking the thread.

if funny = sad.

I couldn't resist pointing out that the Link in the OP begins "FOX NEWS -"
 
"Ultimately, I'm confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected congress."

It's what the Supreme Court does. It's quite ordinary and plenty of precedent exists. Harvard Law Professor my ass.
 
I couldn't resist pointing out that the Link in the OP begins "FOX NEWS -"

But that would be a clear argumentum ad hominem, and we're much to good to stoop so low aren't we?
 
No. What's sad is, when all else fails, a liberal blames the source. Here's what Obama said:



What arrogance.

That's not arrogance, that's politics. What do you freaking expect, the president of the United States to say about one of his landmark issues: "Yeah, probably going to get overturned as unconstitutional. Whoopsie!"

And he's right about cries of "judicial activism." Judicial activism translates roughly as "judge decided in a manner I disagree with."
 
Except that in this case, that's not even what's happening.

It's quite ironic, actually.

The elected legislators ought to represent the will of the people, and in those cases where the will of the people is too far out of line with extant law, it is the court's place to uphold the law, even when doing so goes against popular opinion.

Since before ObamaCare passed, nearly every poll showed that public opinion was solidly against it. It was elected representatives who defied the will of the people in order to pass this mess of a law, and if the court strikes it down, it will be upholding the will of the people.


That all depends on what poll you read. The law was about 50/50 for or against
The difference between a democrat and a republican is who owes the favor, the politican or the business
 
Hey hey... Obama is what passes for a Constitutional Harvard Scholar / Professor / Essayist...errr... Lecturer or whatever these days. As the editor of the Harvard Law Review and President of the Harvard Law Journal... he should know the loopholes and how to get around the SCOTUS ruling.
He could warn the Court that overturning Obamacare would be an example of "racism." Works every time.
 
No. What's sad is, when all else fails, a liberal blames the source. Here's what Obama said:



What arrogance.

Don't really see this as arrogance or idiocy as much as its about politicking and propaganda.
 
This President has no respect for any American institution that disagrees with him. He is a dangerous idealogue and needs to be removed this November.

Totally agree. IMO, I think President Obama has stepped "in it". Polls on the HC bill show approx. 70% of voters don't want it. If the Supremes give it the go ahead, the voters will hand the president his walking papers. They want something dealing with HC, but not this rock.
 
Why is it the GOP is willing to accept the Supreme Court decision to strike down the Health Care law should it decide to do it as a "just ruling", but continue for decades to force the Court to back away from their abortion "just ruling"? I guess it just depends on which side of the political fence you happen to be sitting on eh?
 
Why is it the GOP is willing to accept the Supreme Court decision to strike down the Health Care law should it decide to do it as a "just ruling", but continue for decades to force the Court to back away from their abortion "just ruling"? I guess it just depends on which side of the political fence you happen to be sitting on eh?

You know that's pretty easily flipped around, right?
 
"I guess it just depends on which side of the political fence you happen to be sitting on eh?"

Both sides decry rulings and possible rulings when it doesn't meet their political agenda.... simple statement that both sides are hypocritical about Supreme Court "just rulings".
 
Why is it the GOP is willing to accept the Supreme Court decision to strike down the Health Care law should it decide to do it as a "just ruling", but continue for decades to force the Court to back away from their abortion "just ruling"? I guess it just depends on which side of the political fence you happen to be sitting on eh?

I would submit that the point is that a sitting President is commenting on a decision while the decision is pending, in a "they better not" way.

This is not as conservative politicians decrying past decisions, such as Roe v Wade, or liberals with Citizen's United, that they disagree with. This is about the sitting POTUS playing politics, lying, and basically besmirching, what is supposed to be a co-equal part of our checks and balances, while a decision is pending.

Its BS from the dictator wannabee.
 
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This President just insulted the USSC by calling them "unelected officials". There is a cancer in the White House.
 
This President just insulted the USSC by calling them "unelected officials". There is a cancer in the White House.

Erm, you know that they aren't elected officials, right?

The hypocrisy in this thread is absolutely astonishing. For how many decades have conservatives been whining about unelected judges trying to legislate from the bench?
 
This President just insulted the USSC by calling them "unelected officials". There is a cancer in the White House.

I'm starting to believe President Obama is paving the way for another "presidential whine" to twirl up and pander to those few who want this HC bill. I think he sees the writing on the wall, that the Supremes will rule his and pelosi's HC bill is not constitutional.
 
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