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Sign at Wegmans draws attention

apdst said:
If they have to hire pay another person to do the work that she can't--won't--that will cost the company more money. Surely no one needs to point that out to you.
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Chick-Fil-A. Tell me about their corporate practice of not being open on Sunday, for religious reasons, and all the profit they are missing and then talk to me about Wegman's business decision and the bottom line!
 
radcen said:
Contradiction city. If you didn't care you wouldn't post to tell other people that you think they're wrong. If you post to tell other people that they're wrong... you care.
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No I don't. Don't put words in my mouth. You care, I don't.
 
radcen said:
I can see a scenario where... as it builds up over time, not necessarily immediately... that other employees may begin to resent the fact that they have to work harder to pick up the slack.
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Assuming the majority of customers buy alcohol or pork products everytime they frequent the store?

Do they? We don't know this....
 
radcen said:
I can see a scenario where... as it builds up over time, not necessarily immediately... that other employees may begin to resent the fact that they have to work harder to pick up the slack.
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As they do with smokers who take 10 minute smoke breaks? As they do with workers who take other than Christian holidays?
 
Serenity said:
I think this is such a non issue. According to the OP there have been no complaints to date by the customers. Customers are happy, Employer is Happy, Employee is happy.

Win win as far as i can see.
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well thank God the store is happy, the customers are happy, the whole town is happy.

but what happens next time, when the manager tells the girl to piss off, and the girl sues for religious discrimination.

what should the judge decide in such a case?

should the govt. force a business owner to make accommodation for one person's religious objections, even if he feels it will adversely effect his business and his customers?

I say NO!!
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Please answer the question I asked. Have you ever made a request of any kind to management at any time?
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yes, I requested to leave 15 minutes early to go to a doctor's appt. the next week, and offered to come in 15 minutes early that morning to compensate.

he granted that request.
 
Thunder said:
yes, I requested to leave 15 minutes early to go to a doctor's appt. the next week, and offered to come in 15 minutes early that morning to compensate.

he granted that request.
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So you're okay with asking your employer to make certain allowances for your personal needs. Why is this any different, just because religion is involved?
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
So you're okay with asking your employer to make certain allowances for your personal needs. Why is this any different, just because religion is involved?
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#1. its about religion.

#2. it negatively effects the customers.

#3. it in some way discriminates against customers of a different religion.

#4. it sets a bad precedent.
 
Thunder said:
#1. its about religion.
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I asked you why this is any different just because religion is involved. Your response is a non-response.

Thunder said:
#2. it negatively effects the customers.
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Not according to the customers.

Thunder said:
#3. it in some way discriminates against customers of a different religion.
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It discriminates against products.

Thunder said:
#4. it sets a bad precedent.
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Yes, because heaven forfend an individual employee be allowed to avoid duties which conflict with their individual convictions while their employer makes certain that customers who have different convictions are adequately serviced.
 
Thunder said:
#1. its about religion.

#2. it negatively effects the customers.

#3. it in some way discriminates against customers of a different religion.

#4. it sets a bad precedent.
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So employers aren't allowed to make accommodations for their employees? They should only care about their customers?
 
Thunder said:
#1. its about religion.

#2. it negatively effects the customers.

#3. it in some way discriminates against customers of a different religion.

#4. it sets a bad precedent.
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... It negatively affects the customer? Lol.... you have got to be kidding. HOW? If you consider moving to the next late as something "negative", then you're just complaining. Suck it up.
 
Crosscheck said:
I hate it when I agree with apdst but am not so harsh as him. I guess it is admirable for the store to try and accomodate her but it seems that would be quite hard to run a business.
If a high percentage of shoppers had alcholol or pork and that isn't too wild of a possibility then some clerks could be have lines 5-6 shoppers while she just had one. Human nature being what it is , I think that is going to bring on resentment. Perhaps she should have obtained a different position in the store such as working in produce. Or does working for a store that sells pork and beer violate her religion?
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This ^^^^^^^
 
Thunder said:
sorry to be the contrarian here, but I think this is absolutely ridiculous.

as a Jew, if I had problems touching a box or plastic package with pork or shellfish inside it, I would NOT work at a store that sold pork or shellfish.

I think this girl is wrong to ask to not have to handle pork or alcohol containing packages, and the store is even more wrong in enabling such an attitude of entitlement.

ugggg.
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That's what is so great about living in a free country. If the powers that be choose to work around one of its employees, then so be it. Who are you to tell the owners how to run their own store?
 
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So if a pharmacist refuse to dispense any pills that have been tested on animals because of their rPETA beliefs that would be okay?
 
I think the store is great for accommodating an employee's religion. But if I were working there and wound up working harder and longer due to their accommodation to the other employee, I would be quite peeved.
If I were not an employee and just a customer, I probably would choose not to shop there. I gotta have my bacon :mrgreen:, and knowing that lane is empty and I'm in a long line but cannot go to that lane....pfffffffffft. Other stores would probably welcome a new customer.

Just sayin'.
 
winston53660 said:
So if a pharmacist refuse to dispense any pills that have been tested on animals because of their rPETA beliefs that would be okay?
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Yup. And if nobody likes that, then they are free to go to another pharmacy, right?
 
iangb said:
This answers Thunder, too.
That's because you're not a Muslim who has issues with handling non-halal items. Presumably it's made a difference to her welfare; otherwise she wouldn't have made the request in the first place.

The employee is being given a privilege, not granted a right. If it caused the business to do less well, I would suspect that the privilege would be revoked.
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TacticalEvilDan said:
Wegmans goes to lengths to not only serve the community, but its employees as well.
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Here is how I approach it.
I don't care what any individuals beliefs are, really don't.
Muslim, Christian, Atheist, whatever.

I also think that your religion or non religion, is for you to observe.
That means not putting anyone else out, so you can be all religious or non religious.
When she got the job at the grocery store, she had to know that this stuff was present inside.

Asking someone else to bend, for your religion, is rude.
Even if it's done with a warm smile and fuzzy feelings, it's still rude.

You should adjust your life, per your religious rule, not everyone else.
 
I love the fact that the issue was resolved at the lowest level (my love of decentralized management), but the jihadists would be unimpressed by this gesture.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Here is how I approach it.
I don't care what any individuals beliefs are, really don't.
Muslim, Christian, Atheist, whatever.

I also think that your religion or non religion, is for you to observe.
That means not putting anyone else out, so you can be all religious or non religious.
When she got the job at the grocery store, she had to know that this stuff was present inside.

Asking someone else to bend, for your religion, is rude.
Even if it's done with a warm smile and fuzzy feelings, it's still rude.

You should adjust your life, per your religious rule, not everyone else.
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It's rude to insist. It's not rude to request.
 
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