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CBS commentators are not medical professionals.....
this was a news report, not commentary.
CBS commentators are not medical professionals.....
this was a news report, not commentary.
That doesn't change the facts of anything else I just said. Unless whoever reporting has all of Cheney's health info and medical training then they can't make that kind of decision....
I can't believe your callous attitude on this. You may feel different when you are 71. Sheeesh!
um.....good thing that's not what I did.
That is exactly what you did. You complained that he got the heart over some one else, which is making a medical decision about people you have never met, sitting at your computer at home.
Callous because I'm weighing in on reality here? . . . We can't discuss these issues bluntly because someone's old - or because they were the vice president? Why not?
It is callous to so cavalierly suggest someone should just die because they are 71 yes. My dad hiked to the top of Whitney for his 70th birthday. He is now 80 and still rides his Harley, enjoys his margaritas and going to party's. Who are you to say his life should end because he is old.
My transplant center has a 100 percent firstl year survival rate. Five years out i think it is better than half.they were reporting the news. obviously, a doctor made the 5-year call.but yes, I'll look for a story confirming it.edit: it appears the 5-year part, is based on averages. 75% of male transplant recipients make it another 5 years. 50% make it another 10 years.though, the averages are lower for folks above 70
Who says he was *going* to die?
He had a known heart condition and likely had been on the list for countless years - living with a condition. . . he could have lived without a transplant for another 10 or 20 for all we know. . . after living for 10 or 20 already.
Who says he was *going* to die?
He had a known heart condition and likely had been on the list for countless years - living with a condition. . . he could have lived without a transplant for another 10 or 20 for all we know. . . after living for 10 or 20 already.
I am very disappointed in you young lady. :lol:
I'm not: someone else who was younger or had more going for their life was just denied a heart - if he was reasonable he should have said 'no - I'm too old.' You won't see me robbing someone else of such a wonderful thing when I'm waning in my later years.
I'm not: someone else who was younger or had more going for their life was just denied a heart - if he was reasonable he should have said 'no - I'm too old.' You won't see me robbing someone else of such a wonderful thing when I'm waning in my later years.
How do you know that?
How do you know that?
Who was denied the heart? Since you seem to know exactly how the situatiuon went down, who was it who could have gotten a heart but did not, and why did it go to Cheney?
Oh come on you two - we all know that transplants are on a list - if the first person can't be reached it goes to the next person.
Evidently I think age should be a factor - 71 and the chances of recovery and living another 20 years? I'm just being realistic, here.
Oh come on you two - we all know that transplants are on a list - if the first person can't be reached it goes to the next person.
Evidently I think age should be a factor - 71 and the chances of recovery and living another 20 years? I'm just being realistic, here.
Actually I go to a heart transplant center as a patient. And I totally disagree with you. For instance it could have been a sixty year old heart. I don't particulary want a 60 year old heart.
Here are the rules:
http://optn.transplant.hrsa.gov/PoliciesandBylaws2/policies/pdfs/policy_9.pdf
No 70+ year old should have any sort of transplant... it is a waste of money and resources.. no wonder the US healthcare industry is so screwed up.. money and influence trumps over logic.
Need some new jokes here folks. This is getting a little redundant.
Because your typical liberal has a major issue with insurance companies when they cite pre existing conditions as a reason to deny service.
There is no way Cheney even got on a waiting list for a heart at his age and health. He bought that heart out from under some deserving younger person, I would put money on it. It is disgraceful that our system is so easily abused. Money talks and poor people die.