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Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

The only person to blame is Trayvon. For attacking another person.
Nope. According to Florida law, Trayvon was within his rights to defend himself from someone he reasonably believed posed an imminent threat to attacking him.
 
And thats the bottom line.

Martin's lack composure and common sense

Don't want to be treated like a criminal, don't talk/walk/dress/act like one. Dump the urban/ghetto/gangsta/ look/attitude right in the ass.



Does this mean no one wearing a hoodie in Florida is safe from wannabe cops like Zimmerman?

:roll::roll::roll:
 
Nope. According to Florida law, Trayvon was within his rights to defend himself from someone he reasonably believed posed an imminent threat to attacking him.
Yes. The only person to blame is Trayvon. For attacking another person.
There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.
Attacking someone from behind negates any claim of self defense.

And as the Police Chief has said, no evidence contradicts Zimmerman's statement.
 
Lets try to be truthful....critical, not hypocritical

Would that have happened to you or would this have happened to Martin aka @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA if either of you were wearing a suit and tie?

If you dress and act in a manner that is associated with a certain subculture, then you're going to be assumed to be a member of said subculture and treated accordingly

Well I agree that is how one would be viewed in that manner by someone who is prejudiced or racist.
 
Nope. According to Florida law, Trayvon was within his rights to defend himself from someone he reasonably believed posed an imminent threat to attacking him.
More hyperbole I see.

Zimmerman was observing Trayvon before he put his hood on.

This isn't about his hoodie or how he looked in it or if it - whatever.
It isn't relevant.

Everybody! Repeat after me - The hoodie isn't relevant.

See how easy that was?
 
More hyperbole I see.

Zimmerman was observing Trayvon before he put his hood on.

This isn't about his hoodie or how he looked in it or if it - whatever.
It isn't relevant.

Everybody! Repeat after me - The hoodie isn't relevant.

See how easy that was?

no kidding the hoodie is irrelevant

What is relevant is that martin felt threatened by having someone follow him for blocks and then get out of his car and follow him some more
 
Yes. The only person to blame is Trayvon. For attacking another person.
There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.
Attacking someone from behind negates any claim of self defense.

And as the Police Chief has said, no evidence contradicts Zimmerman's statement.
There is no evidence that Zimmerman was attacked from behind. The only independent witness to that portion of the confrontation said it started with them talking to each other, with Trayvon asking why he was being followed; and then Zimmerman asking what Trayvon was doing there. Which, by the way, I haven't seen reported being in the police report.

If Zimmerman did not inform the police of that exchange, he was lying to them in order to make it appear as though he was surprise attacked.
 
More hyperbole I see.

Zimmerman was observing Trayvon before he put his hood on.

This isn't about his hoodie or how he looked in it or if it - whatever.
It isn't relevant.

Everybody! Repeat after me - The hoodie isn't relevant.

See how easy that was?
My post about the hoodie was sarcasm in response to someone who claimed the hoodie contributed to this killing. Please pay better attention so I don't have to explain these things to you.
 
There is no evidence that Zimmerman was attacked from behind. The only independent witness to that portion of the confrontation said it started with them talking to each other, with Trayvon asking why he was being followed; and then Zimmerman asking what Trayvon was doing there. Which, by the way, I haven't seen reported being in the police report.

If Zimmerman did not inform the police of that exchange, he was lying to them in order to make it appear as though he was surprise attacked.

Actually, Treyvon's sister heard that exchange between him and Zimmerman, just before the phone line went dead.
 
Trayvon confronted Zimmerman first.
I'm still waiting for an explanation ... Zimmerman was in his car on the phone with the 911 ... how did he end up in a postion to be confronted by Trayvon?
 
This point is critical.....

You commenting from the comfort of your computer and Zim was making a decision in a compressed time frame while being pounded by Martin
But that's the whole problem. Zimmerman should never have put himself into a situation where an altercation was possible.

That's why neighborhood watch programs instruct members to do no more than call police upon seeing something suspicious.

That's why the neighborhood watch training Zimmerman went through instructed him to do no more than call police upon seeing something suspicious.

That's why the 911 dispatcher advised him not to follow Trayvon.

One cannot ignore all of those warnings, which is being negligent, and then kill someone due to their own negligence, and then be shielded by the stand your ground law. That is not who the law was intended to protect.
 
Zimmerman was part of his neighborhood's NW program. And was a block Captain. He was not the only one....
you don't get it, do you?

there was NO official neighborhood watch group. HE invented it. HE made himself the "captain". HE was the only member.
Wrong. It is obviously you who has been mis-informed and has allowed their self to be swayed by false information.
Don't you understand why I included that he wasn't the only one?
It was to stop mis-informed people from making the claims you just made.
I can back up what I said.



Let me show you how really biased and misinformed your position is.
calling 911 forty times in January, that makes his actions and words soo very suspect.
Before we go any further, back this statement up.
it was in an article on Yahoo News. Ill find it.

meanwhile, back up your claim that he was not the only member of his neighborhood watch team.
Since you had all day to provide your information and chose not to even though I had asked for yours first.
Here you go.
Trayvon Martin's Shooter Defended By Fellow Neighborhood Watch Captain | NBC 6 Miami

Now I am sure that since you are such an honest fellow you will admit that you were wrong, right?
And since you have been participating in the topics where it was sourced - that indeed there was a NW there, that I do not need to provide it, and you will also admit and retract the bs you said earlier, right?
 
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Are you 100% sure about this?

Be truthful
Of course he was. He was running away from Zimmerman because he detected Zimmerman following him ... in the dark ... for no apparent reason.

In my opinion, that provides Trayvon reasonable cause to believe Zimmerman was going to attack him. From his perspective, someone innocently walking home (where he was staying that night) from 7-11 to get some candy, why else would he think Zimmerman was following him?
 
What is relevant is that martin felt threatened by having someone follow him for blocks and then get out of his car and follow him some more
That is not relevant to his attacking another human being from behind.
That is not self defense.
And no evidence exists to say he did act in self defense. You just can't claim he did because you think he did.

The evidence known to us, and known to Police, does not contradict Zimmerman's statement.
If Trayvon was acting in self defense it would contradict Zimmerman's statement, but since it doesn't exist, you are engaged in pure unsupported supposition.
 
That is not relevant to his attacking another human being from behind.
That is not self defense.
And no evidence exists to say he did act in self defense. You just can't claim he did because you think he did.

The evidence known to us, and known to Police, does not contradict Zimmerman's statement.
If Trayvon was acting in self defense it would contradict Zimmerman's statement, but since it doesn't exist, you are engaged in pure unsupported supposition.

Right that is because Trayvon is dead and cant give his side of the story, while Zimmerman is alive and could lie and not have anyone say any different

Dead men tell no tails
 
Actually, Treyvon's sister heard that exchange between him and Zimmerman, just before the phone line went dead.
Which proves that before the confrontation became physical, they were face to face, which unless that inoformation just hasn't been released by police, Zimmerman never offered up that information to police.
 
There is no evidence that Zimmerman was attacked from behind.
False.
There is no other sources other than Zimmerman that say he was attacked from behind, but his statement is evidence.

But of course - there is no evidence to contradict Zimmerman's statement either, which means you are engaged in unfounded supposition.


If Zimmerman did not inform the police of that exchange, he was lying to them in order to make it appear as though he was surprise attacked.
You assume Zimmerman may be lying when he didn't have enough time or could have been of the mind to concoct a lie that could hold up to scrutiny, so why do you not do the same for the girl who had time and was of the mind and definitely had a reason?
 
Right that is because Trayvon is dead and cant give his side of the story, while Zimmerman is alive and could lie and not have anyone say any different

Dead men tell no tails
I know, at this point, I am right. That may change and it may not.
But what I see is you are ignoring that he didn't have enough time or even could have been of the mind to concoct a lie that could hold up to scrutiny.
And the only reason I can see for you doing so is that you are doing so in favor of a preconceived and biased position.
 
Since you had all day to provide your information and chose not to even though I had asked for yours first.
Here you go.
Trayvon Martin's Shooter Defended By Fellow Neighborhood Watch Captain | NBC 6 Miami

Now I am sure that since you are such an honest fellow you will admit that you were wrong, right?
And since you have been participating in the topics where it was sourced - that indeed there was a NW there, that I do not need to provide it, and you will also admit and retract the bs you said earlier, right?

It's amusing how you cite another neighborhood watch captain as though it were relevant while you dismiss the opinion of others as irrelevant who disagree with you, like the authors of the stand your ground law.
 
I know, at this point, I am right. That may change and it may not.
But what I see is you are ignoring that he didn't have enough time or even could have been of the mind to concoct a lie that could hold up to scrutiny.
And the only reason I can see for you doing so is that you are doing so in favor of a preconceived and biased position.

You mean Zimmerman is too stupid to come up with

Ì turned away and was attacked from behind for no good reason

Something that would be the easiest thing to come up with if you just shot somebody
 
But that's the whole problem. Zimmerman should never have put himself into a situation where an altercation was possible.

That's why neighborhood watch programs instruct members to do no more than call police upon seeing something suspicious.

That's why the neighborhood watch training Zimmerman went through instructed him to do no more than call police upon seeing something suspicious.

That's why the 911 dispatcher advised him not to follow Trayvon.

One cannot ignore all of those warnings, which is being negligent, and then kill someone due to their own negligence, and then be shielded by the stand your ground law. That is not who the law was intended to protect.

There is no evidence that Zimmerman followed Martin. "Should have" means nothing and your view that a person should never put themselves into a situation where an altercation was possible are the words of a reclusive coward because the world is a dangerous place.

This occured because the Martin engaged in the criminal act of felony aggravated assault. Is came down to being that simple.

Lesson learned? If you engage in felony aggravated assault you may get killed and it probably a long term benefit to the "innocent" general public is that is how it ends for a violent criminal.
 
I know, at this point, I am right. That may change and it may not.

Those who have seen the complete file, believe it's highly unlikely Zim will get charged....but politically, they'll send it to the State Attorney's Office for a capias and probably throw in manslaughter charge to quench the thirst of the lynch mob mentality and avoid a riot
 
The blame game...ok


Now that we're on the same blame game page.. Lets also blame Obama for race baiting in this issue

See how ridiculous this is

Only one to blame and thats Martin...End of story

Yeah blame the victim .... I am sure the kid walked those streets for hours night after night until the watch eager beaver took the bait. :roll::shock:
 
Those who have seen the complete file, believe it's highly unlikely Zim will get charged....but politically, they'll send it to the State Attorney's Office for a capias and probably throw in manslaughter charge to quench the thirst of the lynch mob mentality and avoid a riot

I think that's probably the right thing to do. There is nothing like a public trial to quell dissent and gets the real facts out there. Zimmerman might want that as well. I would if I were innocent and were put in his position.
 
Those who have seen the complete file, believe it's highly unlikely Zim will get charged....but politically, they'll send it to the State Attorney's Office for a capias and probably throw in manslaughter charge to quench the thirst of the lynch mob mentality and avoid a riot

Ironic isn't it that the lynch mob mentality is exactly what got Zimmerman into this mess.
 
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