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Marine faces dismissal for anti-Obama Facebook posts

color me surprised that you're asking dishonest & loaded questions.




you accused him of mutiny...



Article 94—Mutiny and sedition


Mutiny is punishable by death.


My question was apt, not loaded at all, perhaps you should choose words in the future that you aren't ignorant of the definition. :prof
 
The article is somewhat vague, but if true he was using a govt computer for facebook entries, that is a violation. You cannot use a govt. computer for personal use.

". Last week, he said his superiors told him he could not use social media sites on government computers after he posted the message stating he would not follow the president's unlawful orders."
 
That doesn't answer my question.

I'll answer your question. Yes, I support the suppression of some aspects of free speech for those serving in the military. I repeat. The military is not a democracy. You don't get to say whatever you want whenever you want to say it without consequences.

I'm guessing you never served in the military. My advice to you would be to keep it that way.
 
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I'll answer your question. Yes, I support the suppression of some aspects of free speech for those serving in the military. I repeat. The military is not a democracy. You don't get to say whatever you want whenever you want to say it without consequences.

I'm guessing you never served in the military. My advice to you would be to keep it that way.

This isnt about my military service. This isnt about what the government has the right to do. Dont try to twist what I am saying.

What my problem is, is the government suppression of freedom of speech. It is wrong. You putting it out there that they can do it doesn't make it any less wrong. There are alot of things the government can do that I dont agree with. Unless your point is that noone should question a government policy you can stop posting that the government can so its ok. I don't buy that. Please stop trying to sell it.
 
thank you for showing how you LIED about my comment.

I accused him of threatening mutiny. YOU however, said that I accused him of mutiny.

take some time to learn the difference.


Read the link, it covers this. You fail yet again.
 
suppressing speech is one thing.

prosecuting active duty soldiers for calling for mutiny, is another story.

I have stated multiple times I agree that he is wrong to threaten or encourage mutiny or not following orders. I never said I support everything he has said or done. But this story brings up the topic of military free speech.
 
suppressing speech is one thing.

prosecuting active duty soldiers for calling for mutiny, is another story.




And you do it again, the punishment for article 94 is up to "death". Do you really want to see this soldier killed over a facebook page? damn, that's harsh.
 
I have stated multiple times I agree that he is wrong to threaten or encourage mutiny or not following orders. I never said I support everything he has said or done. But this story brings up the topic of military free speech.


that's an oxymoron.
 
YOu simply don't understand the nature of military service and the absolute danger that arises if generals or privates have the right to publicly disagree with their superiors. You simply cannot have a functioning military if that is the case.

Let me say it again. The military is not a democracy and the rules of a democracy do not apply. If you don't like the rules, don't join.

I'm not twisting what you are saying at all. You are stating that anybody in the military ought to be able to question and or defy civilian leadership whenever they choose. You are wrong.

And no, my point is not that 'no one should question a government policy' and you know it. My point is that no one on active military service should publicly question a government policy'. If you are in the military and you don't like what the government is doing, then resign or wait until your service is over. That's what honorable men do.
 
the question is: why do YOU want to see this soldier killed over a Facebook page?



I don't. you fail, yet again....


He did not attempt, nor did he commit "mutiny" as you so hysterically claimed. In fact:


" A Marine sergeant who started a Facebook group that is openly critical of President Obama and posted comments saying he will not follow the unlawful orders of the commander in chief is facing possible dismissal from the Corps."



Note the term "Unlawful orders", that's a key term, One can say and one's duty is to not follow unlawful orders, and if you do follow unlawful orders you too can be prosecuted. I refused orders twice, I was right to do so, because wait for it, they were unlawful. If that's all he said on his website, he would be fine, as that is not illegal, however if he said that Obama's orders were all illegal, he'll get a dishcarge at worse, an article 15 at best....

none of this hysterical nonsense of mutiny you keep screeching.
 
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